Doc "Guard" mentality..?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Are you seriously crying because your post got called bizarre?

So, you wanted plays called for Shelden Williams, Stephon Lasme, Harangody, and Erden? Calls for Perk? By the way, he got plenty of throws down low. Calls for Powe? Well, we threw plenty of balls to him down low, but remember he also was a blackhole.

We have Rondo, Pierce, Garnett, and Allen in there all taking a good chunk of the shots regardless of who is in there. Are we also going to ignore Big Baby? He puts up a ton of shots. We don't have shots to waste on bad offensive players.

Erden injured. Gone.
Harangody. Rookie, won't be used in the playoffs. Gone.

Powe a black hole...he got rebounds, he made his own shots. That was his #1 value.  A ton of shots...bbd needs to rebound, we have shooters.

I was talking from the perspective of running plays for him. He didn't pass the ball.

Well, i don't want to fight about it. We aren't fixing anything. I like leon, i like rebounders. if you don't, no big deal to me. i do understand about the C's $$$, and perk wanted a lot....erden...well not so much. He was a developing project...which is what we get in the second round....right? Thing is, he DID develop...a guy gets injured, you dump him? What about D league..? Gody, ne feelings, could turn into a good role player on a team that plays him. Erden showed a lot of promise. Especially as a #2 center. How many good centers are there anyway..? Not many...

So not running plays for a player because I consider him a black hole, suddenly means that I don't value rebounds and that I don't like the player? Explain the logic of that argument to me.

In any other year, you might have a point on Erden, but we're trying to win a championship here with a small window. This is not the first time we've let young people go in the hopes to get veterans for the stretch run.

Giddens/Walker traded away. Pruitt cut. And none of those were big guys... so, what about that "guard" mentality.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

you sure look into things..LOL..you said "I" was sensitive to it....i said i liked leon..nothing there about you...your like or dislikes...! Lets just let this go. or we can talk in peronal messages...the rest of the gang don't care to hear us. it is about the trade and the C's.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Actually, you said "I like Leon, I like rebounders, if you don't, no big deal to me."

Which was here nor there with what was being argued. So yes, I have to question your logic in throwing that type of sentence around when we're talking about running plays, not rebounds or whether I like a player or not.

Let what go? We're in a discussion forum. We're discussing, why would I want to take this to pm?

But whatever.

[Celtics4ever]

Coaches always know their own positions best I think.  They also tend to be harder on those who play them.  Hello, Rajon.

Powe is a tough player albeit undersized.   But I am extremely leery of his gimp knees.

[BballTim]

The quote of doc saying "don't worry about getting rebounds, just get back on D" is genuine, it was wrote here by another. Another point is that how k mchale likes forwards, ie...kg then al jefferson. So, to me doc is showing how he values guards, MORE than big men/rebounders, by always ditching them.

  Doc seems to like KG as well.

[pearljammer10]

Well, I have said it all along...and a lot of people never agreed, but that is to be expected. So, look over the list now, Leon Powe, Sheldon Williams, Stephon Lasme, Harongody, Perk, Erden, all rebounders, all GONE. Danny and Doc, both GUARDS, with no plays ever run for any of them.

 

Maybe we didnt run plays for them because they were all TERRIBLE on the offensive end. All of these guys followed the same similar mode. Play your butt off, hustle as much as you can, get rebounds, and do the dirty work and the little things. None of them had the ability to have an offense run through them. The got garbage points off their hard work. The best offensive player on that list was Erden, and even though I did like him a good amount, thats not saying much.

[Fafnir]

The quote of doc saying "don't worry about getting rebounds, just get back on D" is genuine, it was wrote here by another. Another point is that how k mchale likes forwards, ie...kg then al jefferson. So, to me doc is showing how he values guards, MORE than big men/rebounders, by always ditching them.

  Doc seems to like KG as well.

I'd also add that Doc never says "don't rebound". He doesn't want more than one player crashing the offensive glass, he'd rather prevent quick offense by getting back.

My question still stands, what evidence to you have that Doc/Danny being guards effects how they value rebounding?

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Coaches always know their own positions best I think.  They also tend to be harder on those who play them.  Hello, Rajon.

Powe is a tough player albeit undersized.   But I am extremely leery of his gimp knees.

powe was maybe undersized, but he also was a LARGE factor in us winning the chamionship.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

The quote of doc saying "don't worry about getting rebounds, just get back on D" is genuine, it was wrote here by another. Another point is that how k mchale likes forwards, ie...kg then al jefferson. So, to me doc is showing how he values guards, MORE than big men/rebounders, by always ditching them.

KG runs this team...as was in evidence the two years..when he was out of the lineup and off the bench...we lost continually.

  Doc seems to like KG as well.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Coaches always know their own positions best I think.  They also tend to be harder on those who play them.  Hello, Rajon.

Powe is a tough player albeit undersized.   But I am extremely leery of his gimp knees.

powe was maybe undersized, but he also was a LARGE factor in us winning the chamionship.

Complete myth. He was so LARGE that he for the most part fell out of the rotation along with Baby and we majorly went with a 3 big men rotation of Perk-KG-Brown. Once that occurred, we started winning.

He had some nice games, but for the most part he was a major liability defensively in that run. He was young and inexperienced so understandable, but let's call things for what they were.