Jeff Green

[BlackCeltic]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

[garz]

would feel a lot better if we had traded BBD than Perk.

I prefer Big Baby. He has a huge heart and seems more loyal and interested in being a Celtic to me. Perkins was underrated for a long time, then people started to talk about him (Van Gundy for instance) and he became overrated. I think the Celtics got an excellent return for him while his value was at its highest.

[arctic 3.0]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

not on defense he isn't...

[arctic 3.0]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

not on defense he isn't...

independent of what just went down
would you swap erden for kristic

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

not on defense he isn't...

independent of what just went down
would you swap erden for kristic

not for the Cs...kristic is very soft.

[droponov]

Krstic is a superb 5th/6th big. Erden was a very below average one. Similar rebounding wise, Krstic is less error prone defensively and in a whole different planet offensively.

[BballTim]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

not on defense he isn't...

independent of what just went down
would you swap erden for kristic

not for the Cs...kristic is very soft.

  Semih isn't soft?

[GranTur]

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Because OKC already has a SF.

OKC fans tell me Green is better defensively than his numbers show...he rarely got to defend other SFs.

[Eddie20]

Green vs Perk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8VSAcSUIg&feature=fvst

[bruinsandceltics]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

  Why not wait a few games and see how he does? The guy he's replacing (Quis) could barely get into games last year in the playoffs.

It's pretty clear he is letting his emotions getting in the way of evaluating the player, because one of all of our favorites was traded.

[bruinsandceltics]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

Forget what everyone says, Im excited about Johnson! That boy was trying to block everything lol

we played a number of games with only semih and bbd maning the middle. our d didn't suffer much. kristic is an upgrade over erden.
Danny would not make this trade if he thought shaq was done.
when he comes back we will have KG shaq, bbd and green and kristic. that is a far deeper big man rotation then we have had at any point this season.

not on defense he isn't...

independent of what just went down
would you swap erden for kristic

not for the Cs...kristic is very soft.

Now you are just talking out of the rear end. Erden has okay potential to be an okay player in this league. But Krsitc helps this team so much more this year than Erden every would have (especially in the playoffs).

[td450]

Am I wrong, or could we have gotten Gerald Wallace instead?

[hpantazo]

a lot of people are forgetting our offensive droughts, and our issues on offense when teams back off Rondo. This is the main issue that this trades addresses, which is key to helping us get 18. Kristic and Green help us spread the floor big time and allow Rondo to operate and kill teams rather than get bottled up. Having Rondo out there with Perk was killing our offense, which is why Davis has been closing games. The problem is that Davis has trouble getting his shot off himself. Green is a huge difference maker in this regard.

[BlackCeltic]

Am I wrong, or could we have gotten Gerald Wallace instead?

I rather gain a big man and pick in the deal...as well as stick it to the Lakers!