Jeff Green

[winsomme]

would feel a lot better if we had traded BBD than Perk.

Troy is much more of an even swap for Baby than Perk if he's the big we end up picking up.

[pearljammer10]

would feel a lot better if we had traded BBD than Perk.

Troy is much more of an even swap for Baby than Perk if he's the big we end up picking up.

I wonder if Bbd and nate for green and Kristic was on the table at all? I would have given up multiple picks to do that deal and be able to Keep Perk.

[anthony83]

Jeff is a great player, he has talent and is very athletic, welcome to Boston Jeff

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

[Fafnir]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

Small ball is a lot different when its match up based, rather than forced. Having Green greatly increased our line up flexibility.

[arctic 3.0]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

[footey]

I too feel that Perkins' defensive contributions are exaggerated. He became a very good defender after KG joined the team. Who was talking about his defensive acumen BKG?  I think Doc was trying to get Jermaine to become like Perk, just to focus on defense and rebounding, and Jermaine seemed to be buying in before his knee started acting up. If Jermaine can come back and split minutes with Shaq and Krystic, no one is going to miss Perk that much. I know I won't, and I love the big lug. 

[footey]

Just curious what grade Hollinger (Mr. PER) gave Celtics for the trade. Not an ESPN Insider. Please don't cut and paste, just summarize what he said would be fine, or at least see what grade we got. Thanks.

[BudweiserCeltic]

He gave us a B. He was pretty good in his assessment, but it's still a wait and see since we still have rosters to fill.

[BballTim]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

  Why not wait a few games and see how he does? The guy he's replacing (Quis) could barely get into games last year in the playoffs.

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

  Why not wait a few games and see how he does? The guy he's replacing (Quis) could barely get into games last year in the playoffs.

well he's only replacing Quis IF either Shaq or JO are able to replace Perk....

but yeah I'm open to this working, just not seeing it at the moment.

[ManUp]

Green + Rondo = our future

I hope there is a top 5 player added to that group in the future or I see a lot of 5-7 seed playoff teams. 

5-7 Play-off seed seem a bit generous.

Is Jeff Green that good or do you think I'm underestimating Rondo?

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

Small ball is a lot different when its match up based, rather than forced. Having Green greatly increased our line up flexibility.

OKC could have started Collison at PF....

[winsomme]

Odom should not be a bad match up for Green...anyway, he was just bad in that series.

He was bad in that series, but as Bud points out so was Kevin Durant (by his standards) But its hard for me to kill a player who's playing better players (Gasol/Odom are both better) out of position during his first taste of the playoffs.

Fair enough, but again Odom should not be a bad matchup for Green...

I also don't like reports that OKC fans/analysts aren't too upset to see him go...

Odom didn't have a good series against the Thunder though.

7.8 PPG, 6.38 RPG and he had serious foul trouble during three of those games. He also only got to the line 7 times during the series and shot 41% FG% and had a TS% of .460

but the thing that is going to make trading for Green worth it is primarily his offensive contribution (he is by no means a defensive stopper). And that is where he fell off in the Laker series last year.

whereas Perk's contribution was manning the back line of our defense. We took a big hit there in losing Perk. The question is whether Green can up the offensive element of our game to counteract that loss.

plus, haven't you heard the one benefit Doc said about getting Green? Bringing back small ball. So don't be surprised to see Green at PF a lot for us.

look, I'm in shock right now. Our front court defense was one of our strengths and now it is not. Even if Shaq and JO come back, we've never made a playoff run with them. So, this is not sitting well with me right now.

I'm looking for reasons to be excited about this deal and Green is really the only hope and what I saw from Green in the playoffs last year was not good. Add to that a very underwhelming season this year and I am very concerned...

I love what perk brings defensively, but I just don't get this idea that "our front court D was  a strength and now it is not".
Our D has been terrific all season w/o perk. why do we expect a drop off?

well who makes up our front court D right now?

[WeMadeIt17]

I am very excited to have Jeff with us. I think he is going to strive with Rondo and the rest of this team.