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Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 06:58:57 PM »

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I respect your opinion but disagree.  Just out of curiosity, should the defense be able to use the 24 seconds how they choose?
And should we go ahead and outlaw three seconds too. This business about using the 24 seconds as you choose is meaningless. There are rules for a reason and this is one of the good ones. And if, as you say, you haven watching basketball for the last 10-15 years and haven't noticed, then not only is it good, is only seems to effect the game in a good way.

Without this rule, you'd see the horrible basketball that stimated this great rule.

Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2011, 07:01:21 PM »

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what a smart aleac with traveling comment pearljammer10 ....thanks Who for the explanation...but, to me, it's still absurd

no offense but i thought it was hilarious, and I gave him a tommy point.

lol.  i dont have a problem with the rule as long as it's called consistently for both teams.  which it certainly wont, and since thats the case in can be lumped in with every other rule the NBA has and decides to call at it's own discretion.
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Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 07:04:30 PM »

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not sure what you really mean by "should the defense be able to use the 24 seconds any way they choose" but on the surface...sure as long as they are not violating other rules.

Shots clocks were orginally invented because of teams setting on big leads...the four corner offensive stall" before many of you guys' time I suspect. And no I would not outlaw the three second rule for the offense but I would do away with that defensive 3 second rule...I am old school.

But if you are going to limit a team to 24 seconds then they should be able to dribble it away no matter where they are on the floor or what direction they are facing

Now if you are a team on defense who can't figure out how to defend some player dribbling with his back to the basket for 24 seconds then I suspect your defense sucks.....anyway

again just my opinion


Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 07:10:47 PM »

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I just wondering if you felt the defense should be able to do whatever they wanted to stop the offense such as playing zone. I sort of feel this way but I would hate to see zones all game.

I believe this rule is called consistently. I was waiting for them to call it on Rondo because you can't do that. Its rarely called because players don't do it as often but they do call it every once in a while.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 07:15:37 PM »

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As I recall the defensive three second rule came in about 10 years ago also...I have always hated it too (at least I was aware of it- LOL) ....they did to speed up the game even more ...than a 24 second clock but yet it slows the game up by all the calls and the FT's .....Teams should know how to play against zones and every other defensive scheme

The offensive three second rule was instituted in 1936...so that's old school enough for me


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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 08:17:04 PM »

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In terms of dumbest rule, I don't like the charge circle.  The rule itself is fine, but the enforcement is ridiculous.  If an offensive player makes contact with a defensive player in the circle who has his feet set, that's supposed to be a non-call.  Instead, it is almost 100% of the time called a defensive foul.  I think this discourages good defense, and rewards out of control play by the offense near the basket.


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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 08:32:58 PM »

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In terms of dumbest rule, I don't like the charge circle.  The rule itself is fine, but the enforcement is ridiculous.  If an offensive player makes contact with a defensive player in the circle who has his feet set, that's supposed to be a non-call.  Instead, it is almost 100% of the time called a defensive foul.  I think this discourages good defense, and rewards out of control play by the offense near the basket.

Lebron comes to mind as someone who takes advantage of this.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 08:45:46 PM »

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In terms of dumbest rule, I don't like the charge circle.  The rule itself is fine, but the enforcement is ridiculous.  If an offensive player makes contact with a defensive player in the circle who has his feet set, that's supposed to be a non-call.  Instead, it is almost 100% of the time called a defensive foul.  I think this discourages good defense, and rewards out of control play by the offense near the basket.
Pretty sure you're wrong. Who says it's supposed to be a non-call? You can't have a guy standing under the basket taking charges else this turns into high school.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 08:46:35 PM »

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I don't know if this is in the rule book but I think it's stupid that if a guy takes a shot and the shot clock expires before the ball hits the rim, the ref stops the fast break if the defensive team gets the rebound.  But if it's an offensive rebound then they get a fresh clock.  It should only be ball out of bounds if it's a true 24 second violation.
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Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 08:49:21 PM »

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I don't know if this is in the rule book but I think it's stupid that if a guy takes a shot and the shot clock expires before the ball hits the rim, the ref stops the fast break if the defensive team gets the rebound.  But if it's an offensive rebound then they get a fresh clock.  It should only be ball out of bounds if it's a true 24 second violation.

If the ball is released prior to the clock expiring, and it hits the rim, the ref isn't supposed to blow the whistle.  It should only be a dead ball if the ball doesn't hit the rim at all.


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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2011, 09:02:05 PM »

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I thought they would have cleared the charge rule up by now. I think it should be a no-call if the defender is in the circle but has position. But they call it differently all the time. I also read somewhere that the charge call is different in college and the nba and I'm not talking about the circle.

With the 24 second rule, I think he's talking about when the defense gets the ball right after the ref blows the whistle, even though the defense has possession?

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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2011, 09:40:40 PM »

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This shouldn't even be a debate ... the worst rule in all of sports is the fact that in the NBA, if you call timeout in the last 2 minutes of the game, you get the ball at half-court. 

To me, this is equivalent to:

1) If you call a timeout in the last two minutes of an NFL game, you get the ball at the 50 yard line.

2) If you call a timeout in the ninth inning, you get a runner on second base.

Sure, it makes for more excitement.  But, it's a joke.  If you nail a "game-winner" with 1-2 seconds to go, it should take a 1 in 100 miracle to beat you.  Not 1 in 5.

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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2011, 09:52:12 PM »

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I haven't read a single complaint about a rule on this thread that is legit. The five second call is perfect and has been great for the game. The charge call is also good and as far as i have seen, is called about as fairly as possible. And I'm mot quite sure what to make about the gripe on the 24 sec clock? It's simple. If the ball doesn't hit the rim, the defense has to get the ball before the clock expires. If they do, even if it is a split second before, the refs will ignore the buzzer.  The reason they let it go is because in fact, it isn't a 24 violation since they turned it over before the clock ran out. It's not like the refs are doing them a favor.

If the D doesn't get the ball before the clock expires, then it is a violation and the ball must be taken out. Pretty clear cut and the refs generally do a good job with it.

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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2011, 10:00:17 PM »

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If you have the ability to "post-up" someone sometimes it takes more than 5 seconds to work them into position.....!!! good lord that is a stupid rule...unless I am missing something...
It is 5 seconds of dribbling with your back to the basket while below the foul line extended (within 15 feet of the hoop).

Before you start your dribble, you can take as long as you want. The clock only starts to tick after the first bounce. The clock stops once you pick up your dribble (so you could take another couple of seconds with a head fake and a fallaway J).

Is it also written in the rulebook that you only get called for that rule if you spend the entire 5 second whining to the ref that Eddie House is fouling you, until he needs to call that on you just to shut you up? 

Re: Worst Rule in the NBA???
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2011, 12:26:30 AM »

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Po isnt relatively new to anything  ;D exept big bang and i still have doubts about it.


and the worst rule ever is the  one that affect my team  in the momment it affect my team.
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