The Pick Two Draft Thread 2011

[Roy H.]

The Indiana Pacers select Shawn Marion.

The other guy I was looking at in lieu of Batum.  Nice one.

Oh wow, Marion would have been fantastic in that role.

Batum is the better long term pick but I think Marion would have given you more in the short term.

I wanted a bit more outside shooting; Marion has turned into a terrible jump shooter.  Plus, my team is already pretty old, and wanted some young legs.

The four guys who were on my radar were Ariza (picked before me), Batum, Battier, and Marion.  I figured all would have been decent fits.  I went with the energy guy who combined youth with a jump shot.

[indeedproceed]

The Bucks select Kyle Lowry, 11.5pts, 6.5 assists, 1.5sts, 41% shooting and 34% from 3, all in 33 mins.

PLus he brings more defense to a unit who value it.

[StartOrien]

The Bucks select Kyle Lowry, 11.5pts, 6.5 assists, 1.5sts, 41% shooting and 34% from 3, all in 33 mins.

PLus he brings more defense to a unit who value it.

Funkcity no longer looking to move down into the third 

[Roy H.]

The Bucks select Kyle Lowry, 11.5pts, 6.5 assists, 1.5sts, 41% shooting and 34% from 3, all in 33 mins.

PLus he brings more defense to a unit who value it.

Let the Lowry vs. Jennings debate begin.

[action781]

The Bucks select Kyle Lowry, 11.5pts, 6.5 assists, 1.5sts, 41% shooting and 34% from 3, all in 33 mins.

PLus he brings more defense to a unit who value it.

Let the Lowry vs. Jennings debate begin.

I like Lowry a lot.  I definitely think this trade would have been worth it had a more offensively oriented player been picked rather than Fields.  I'd still say maybe a wash, plus IP gets players he likes.  There are still some high-offense 3's out there that could make this lineup OK

[Who]

The Bucks select Kyle Lowry, 11.5pts, 6.5 assists, 1.5sts, 41% shooting and 34% from 3, all in 33 mins.

PLus he brings more defense to a unit who value it.

Let the Lowry vs. Jennings debate begin.

I think they are pretty close in terms of ability.

Lowry gives you a bit more defense + rebounding while Jennings adds more of a perimeter jump shot + is a more well-rounded passing.

Jennings does seem to have vastly more potential though.

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His lack of progress, while not a surprise (expected more to happen in 3rd/4th seasons than 2nd year due to his skill-set/size), has been disappointing.

I would have liked to have seen Jennings to get up to about 52% TS% this season + show better leadership as a floor general in incorporating their scoring threats (Salmons, Maggette) ... neither of which happened.

There is still time for the scoring efficiency to improve but the floor general improvement looks off for the time being.

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Kyle Lowry had one hot shooting spell from three point range where he was nailing around 40-45% of his shots from downtown. Over time, I think that current mark of 34% will continue to decline as he comes back down to earth.

That mark will drop further on that Bucks team due to personnel. Houston's face paced offense and quality perimeter scorers/shooters generates better shot attempts than the Bucks offense is likely to do (Lowry / Fields / J.Smith / Ibaka / Bogut). Probably fall back to 25-28% from behind the arc. 

[Lucky17]

Well, I see Marion and Battier are now off the boards. Both were guys I was trying to move up from 3.13 to get.

Back to the drawing board.

[Gainesville Celtic]

i believe you're up GreenFaith

[GreenFaith1819]

The LA Clippers are happy to select:

Mike Dunleavy!! A big SG, with good range. A solid defender. Known as a team player, as well.

[Fafnir]

The Indiana Pacers select Shawn Marion.

The other guy I was looking at in lieu of Batum.  Nice one.

Oh wow, Marion would have been fantastic in that role.

Batum is the better long term pick but I think Marion would have given you more in the short term.

That's exactly what I told him  .

[Edgar]

and durable

HEs a super binkie so I have not much to say about Mike D. but that one seems like a reach..lol

Good pick.

[Roy H.]

The Indiana Pacers select Shawn Marion.

The other guy I was looking at in lieu of Batum.  Nice one.

Oh wow, Marion would have been fantastic in that role.

Batum is the better long term pick but I think Marion would have given you more in the short term.

That's exactly what I told him  .

I initially agreed, until I looked at just how horrific Marion's jump shooting and 3PT numbers were (and have been the last few years).  He's almost strictly an inside player now, which doesn't work so well if you have him as your SF.

[GreenFaith1819]

Nick - like you mentioned - Hedo will do fine for my roster, since we do in fact have a very good PG that can shoot the ball.

It will be interesting to see how these rosters pan out. Hopefully, Riah32 can run these in 2K10 or 11.

Baron Davis is not a good shooter, the problem with him and Hedo is that they both need the ball to be effective.

Wait, didn't Baron and Hedo just win a championship together? 

No, but they will enjoy their playoff run with this roster.

[GreenFaith1819]

and durable

HEs a super binkie so I have not much to say about Mike D. but that one seems like a reach..lol

Good pick.

Fixed the "durable" part

[Who]

Well, I see Marion and Battier are now off the boards. Both were guys I was trying to move up from 3.13 to get.

Back to the drawing board.

I thought you should have made Marion a priority as a PF given the success he and Nash have had together in the past.

Put those two guys back together and in Phoenix's high paced offense and I think Marion still puts up 16ppg 9-10rpg with quality defense while playing very efficient offense. He would have been a massive difference maker to get with a late 2nd round or 3rd round pick.

In this specific situation, I think Marion would be one of the best potential "value picks" in the draft.