Rent Zach Randolph

[greg683x]

This isnt like Stephon Marburys situation where we could just waive him if he became a problem and not lose anybody.  If ZBO starts causing trouble here bc he feels hes not getting enough PT or touches, or not starting so he can showcase himself for his payday next year then we are stuck with him!    We wont have BBD or Jermaine anymore for the playoffs and might have to start leaving bags of money at Sheeds house so he'll come out of retirement.  I do not like this idea.

Heres more of Randolphs career stats besides his 20 points and 10 rebounds.....

Undated, in high school: Spent thirty days in a juvenile detention centre (jn two separate 15 day stints) for possession of stolen property (namely, guns, one of which he sold.) Also served thirty days of house arrest on a battery charge.
 
 
 2003: Punched team mate Ruben Patterson in the face, causing some heavy blood loss. Earned himself a suspension. It is not known whether Ruben deserved it.

-2003 case in which he was charged with driving under the influence of intoxicants after police smelled marijuana in his car.

- 2007 Sued for sexual assault. No criminal charges brought.

-2009  was arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence, though the charge was later reduced to one count of reckless driving

- 2010 Men arrested using Randolphs vehicle to sell drugs, and under investigation for financing an Indianapolis drug ring.

Stuck with him for 4 whole months? Question: When the guy has worked hard to improve his reputation both in and out of the locker room, has continued to show he's one of the most dominant players in the league, is going to be an unrestricted FA this summer, and has yet to play for a good team where winning it all is in sight (and could actually increase his value in the process), why would he sabotage dozens of millions of dollars from his own pockets and ruin the opportunity to play on an awesome veteran team in the process?

my point: unlikely. if he can do it in Memphis he'll probably get by in Boston. Oh yeah, and be a major upgrade in our quest for 18.

You point out that hes one of the more dominant players in the league, and then make another point that hes never been on a winning team.  Could it be that he's the problem?  Obviously he won have to be a leader here, but my point is that problems follow this man around.  I dont want our coaches and players to have to answer questions about how they feel about their bench player getting a DUI, or caught with drugs right when we're about get prepared for the playoffs.

he hasnt behaved himself in Memphis like you said.  People are driving around selling drugs out of vehicles he owns, and these people have been saying that he's financing dealers with vehicles and places to stay.

This wasnt even a year ago dude, guilty or not this man cant keep negative attention away from his name. 

If Randolph is a guy that has the common sense to keep the best interest of his career in mind like youre saying he will, then he wouldnt have a rap sheet like this to begin with

[barefacedmonk]

Rent to own?

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Greg, his rep is why he's often been available for cheap throughout his career, and why strong packages likely wont be offered for him from most teams.

I dont think you can reasonably blame the problems of the Blazers, Knicks and Grizz on Randolph. He's not been a great influence on his teammates off the court i imagine, but i think its fair to say that the Cs would be the best amd most metally tough team hes ever played on.

And yet he's continued to produce on the court. The deal would be a clear talent upgrade. He'd dramatically improve three key weakneses that could very well stand in the way of Banner 18 -- post scoring, 2nd unit scoring & REBOUNDING. If you'll recall Game 7 of last years NBA Finals, you'll remember the 3rd item was the difference between winning and losing.

I dont care what Randolph does in his free time. I dont care if hes a great person. Do Chicagoans care if Rodman's a good person? Do Los Angelens care if Kobe's a solid citizen? Or Artest? Doubt it -- they care how he played in Game 7 and brought them a championship.

Glen Davis is no saint -- he's been known to punch out his buddies on Season Eve. We've got plenty of good guys on this team. I'd gladly traded a couple of overrated players for an underrated one with some baggage if it meant we'd win it all this year. Wouldnt you?

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By the way, doesnt look like Dallas is trading Beaubois for Randolph.....

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4674038/roddy-beaubois-is-close-to-untradeable

[Fan from VT]

Seems like it's been a while since any real problems. He's a very good player on the court, and has actually "brought it" for the last few seasons even though Memphis is not the greatest place to play.

[Roy H.]

By the way, doesnt look like Dallas is trading Beaubois for Randolph.....

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4674038/roddy-beaubois-is-close-to-untradeable

I think that both Beaubois and Nick Batum have become tremendously overrated.  I like both of them, and I think both can be above-average starters for a long time, but I don't see either as a legit star player. 

It's sort of like when Chicago was so in love with Deng and Hinrich.  It was the same thing:  both projected to be good players, but shouldn't have stood in the way of landing a star.

[Fan from VT]

I'd put Baby, JO, Bradley, Nate on the table for Randolph in a second.

[housecall]

I'd put Baby, JO, Bradley, Nate on the table for Randolph in a second.

Agree,i would let anyone on our bench go accept Perk or Shaq depending on which is on the bench at the time of a trade.

[mrkelly]

Giving up Nate and Bradley will leave us kind of empty at the point though, no? Daniels and Pierce as backups?

I like the idea of Randolph as another threat downlow, especially with KG not really playing in the paint on offense, but to me resting Rondo's legs is a bit more important.

Especially in the playoffs if we play Miami and Daniels/Pierce are too busy guarding lechoke to give relief at the point.

[Fan from VT]

Giving up Nate and Bradley will leave us kind of empty at the point though, no? Daniels and Pierce as backups?

I like the idea of Randolph as another threat downlow, especially with KG not really playing in the paint on offense, but to me resting Rondo's legs is a bit more important.

Especially in the playoffs if we play Miami and Daniels/Pierce are too busy guarding lechoke to give relief at the point.

Robinson has, frankly, been awful, and Bradley's in the D league and seems a long ways away from contributing, especially as a point guard. West is coming back, though, to be primary PG backup. There's probably some other guard that could be plucked off the scrap heap to really give the c's another guard near the level of what Robinson has been that would easily make it worth it.

Blake Ahearn, Antonio daniels, oliver lafayette, Aaron Miles, Mario West, Scottie REynolds, Curtis Stinson, Kyle weaver, Cedric Jackson, walker russell, jamar smith...I'd give some of them a chance with Delonte/Marquis in the backcourt if it meant adding Randolph up front.

[action781]

In fairness to Randolph, the "he plays no defense" tag is largely unfair.  The last two years, at least, defensive metrics have had him as a slightly above-average defender.  He's also a dominant rebounder, which of course helps eliminate possessions for the other team.

The gripe about Randolph's defense isn't completely about his ability.  What I remember hearing (from a coach? can't find the source, it was a couple years ago) is that when his offense isn't working for him, he becomes completely apathetic on the defensive end.  So on days his offense isn't working, your $17M player becomes a negative on both ends of the court, essentially ensuring a loss.  Again, that was a couple years ago, so maybe he's changed.  I haven't seen enough of him to say that's still a fact, but it was something I definitely read from a coach of his.

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Anyone watching this Lakers contest should be hearing what i'm talking about re: rebounding. oy vey....

yes, we'll need to find some back-up ball handling to protect against injury for Delonte. no, that's not as important as what Randolph would bring to this team.

[Fafnir]

Anyone watching this Lakers contest should be hearing what i'm talking about re: rebounding. oy vey....

yes, we'll need to find some back-up ball handling to protect against injury for Delonte. no, that's not as important as what Randolph would bring to this team.

We're +9 in the rebounding today as of two minutes to go in the third.

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Anyone watching this Lakers contest should be hearing what i'm talking about re: rebounding. oy vey....

yes, we'll need to find some back-up ball handling to protect against injury for Delonte. no, that's not as important as what Randolph would bring to this team.

We're +9 in the rebounding today as of two minutes to go in the third.

yep -- also gave up two second chance Kobe 3s in the 2nd and the 3rd out of the inability of anyone but KG to rebound the ball on the defensive end. happens every night. van gundy's made note of it at least 3 times today. are you suggesting the Cs don't need to worry about their rebounding deficiencies, or just making a point for the sake of... making a point?

[mrkelly]

Giving up Nate and Bradley will leave us kind of empty at the point though, no? Daniels and Pierce as backups?

I like the idea of Randolph as another threat downlow, especially with KG not really playing in the paint on offense, but to me resting Rondo's legs is a bit more important.

Especially in the playoffs if we play Miami and Daniels/Pierce are too busy guarding lechoke to give relief at the point.

Robinson has, frankly, been awful, and Bradley's in the D league and seems a long ways away from contributing, especially as a point guard. West is coming back, though, to be primary PG backup. There's probably some other guard that could be plucked off the scrap heap to really give the c's another guard near the level of what Robinson has been that would easily make it worth it.

Blake Ahearn, Antonio daniels, oliver lafayette, Aaron Miles, Mario West, Scottie REynolds, Curtis Stinson, Kyle weaver, Cedric Jackson, walker russell, jamar smith...I'd give some of them a chance with Delonte/Marquis in the backcourt if it meant adding Randolph up front.

Ehh, maybe I'm still not sold on West being %100 both mentally and physically. If he's not, would you really want Antonio Daniels backing up Rondo?