Rent Zach Randolph

[greg683x]

This isnt like Stephon Marburys situation where we could just waive him if he became a problem and not lose anybody.  If ZBO starts causing trouble here bc he feels hes not getting enough PT or touches, or not starting so he can showcase himself for his payday next year then we are stuck with him!    We wont have BBD or Jermaine anymore for the playoffs and might have to start leaving bags of money at Sheeds house so he'll come out of retirement.  I do not like this idea.

Heres more of Randolphs career stats besides his 20 points and 10 rebounds.....

Undated, in high school: Spent thirty days in a juvenile detention centre (jn two separate 15 day stints) for possession of stolen property (namely, guns, one of which he sold.) Also served thirty days of house arrest on a battery charge.
 
 
 2003: Punched team mate Ruben Patterson in the face, causing some heavy blood loss. Earned himself a suspension. It is not known whether Ruben deserved it.

-2003 case in which he was charged with driving under the influence of intoxicants after police smelled marijuana in his car.

- 2007 Sued for sexual assault. No criminal charges brought.

-2009  was arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence, though the charge was later reduced to one count of reckless driving

- 2010 Men arrested using Randolphs vehicle to sell drugs, and under investigation for financing an Indianapolis drug ring.

[action781]

I wonder if Cleveland would be interested in using that huge trade exception to help bring themselves back into relevancy.

14M trade exception + JJ Hickson + A. Parker + J. Moon

for

Randolph + OJ Mayo


Hickson gives Memphis a young PF they can plug into the starting lineup right away at a very low cost.  I think Randolph and Varejao would complement eachother very nicely in a frontcourt together if Cleveland resigns him.

[JSD]

All that for Zack "play no defense" Randolph?

[pearljammer10]

I wonder if Cleveland would be interested in using that huge trade exception to help bring themselves back into relevancy.

14M trade exception + JJ Hickson + A. Parker + J. Moon

for

Randolph + OJ Mayo


Hickson gives Memphis a young PF they can plug into the starting lineup right away at a very low cost.  I think Randolph and Varejao would complement eachother very nicely in a frontcourt together if Cleveland resigns him.

Not a bad deal for the Cavs, hey need to do something to shake things up. It doesnt appear Memphis will be in the market to resign Randolph and OJ Mayo so the 14 mil expception along with Hickson would be intriguing. however, i think the grizz might be able to get more. With Jamison, Williams, Randolph, and Mayo the Cavs would have a decent, yet expensive, 4some to work with.

[Fafnir]

Cleveland needs to rebuild, not try an sign a guy like Z-Bo to be their best player. They need to dump their vets and start drafting talent.

[The DarkPassenger]

Per Chad Ford (ESPN), Randolph is available for late season rent due to their inability to resign him this summer considering their prioritizing Gay, Conley and Gasol.

The Cs could likely get him for a package of Nate, Glen Davis, JO and Avery B.

I don't like that he are giving up 4 players for one. We have gone from a deep bench to one who is filled with what payable free agents are out there and 10 day contracts. If someone gets hurt we might be in trouble.
 

I wonder if Cleveland would be interested in using that huge trade exception to help bring themselves back into relevancy.

14M trade exception + JJ Hickson + A. Parker + J. Moon

for

Randolph + OJ Mayo


Hickson gives Memphis a young PF they can plug into the starting lineup right away at a very low cost.  I think Randolph and Varejao would complement eachother very nicely in a frontcourt together if Cleveland resigns him.

Interesting trade. The Cavs I've heard are shopping Mo Williams and Jamison so one of those two could be inserted or replace another player. Not sure the Griz would give up on Mayo for 2 aging guys and a role player but still interesting thought.

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Roy and Fafnir have successfully debated the Dallas issue. Randolph: a) is not a great fit with Dirk, both in terms of their ball dominance and defense, b) is not a good fit to be re-signed there, considering Dirk, Chandler and Hayword, and c) Cuban is usually open to overpaying to get a guy this year (i.e. Butler & Beaubois) in order to take a shot at a title.

Randolph is a better fit on the Cs IMO. I also don't see the Grizz prioritizing a driving 1 and an aged 3 in such a trade, since they have long term money committed to both.

If I were the Cs, I'd do what it took to get it done -- this year's 1st for example. It's $1.5mil less the Cs would have to commit to the 2012 payroll, which is probably to management's liking anyway in lieu of 29th pick talent for guaranteed money.

[Lucky17]

I wonder if Cleveland would be interested in using that huge trade exception to help bring themselves back into relevancy.

14M trade exception + JJ Hickson + A. Parker + J. Moon

for

Randolph + OJ Mayo


Hickson gives Memphis a young PF they can plug into the starting lineup right away at a very low cost.  I think Randolph and Varejao would complement eachother very nicely in a frontcourt together if Cleveland resigns him.

Not a bad idea, but Cleveland can't combine the TE with outgoing salary to get Z-Bo, whose contract is too large to slot into the TE.

[action781]

Cleveland needs to rebuild, not try an sign a guy like Z-Bo to be their best player. They need to dump their vets and start drafting talent.

They'd be getting a young talent in OJ Mayo back in the deal.


Thanks, Lucky, for clarifying that rule! 

[Finkelskyhook]

O'Neal is owed another 7 million dollars next year, that's a hefty price to pay for a guy who doesn't play. Especially when you're giving up the best player in the deal.

That's just this year.  Whoever has O'Neal next year will get most of a full season out of him.

Like Nash, Randolph would have been a great addition to Rivers' pre-Thibodeau teams who played no defense.  In spite of Randolph's gawdy stats, I think Davis is a bigger asset because he knows the defense.  So does Nate.  If you're talking about adding a defensive oriented player...Maybe.  But Randolph is a sieve.

[CelticG1]

Randolph would get at least 30 minutes a night with our team (like Baby). I don't see minutes really being an issue with him.

As for him getting "touch's" again I don't really see that being an issue. Our team is so unselfish and with four HOF's leading the pack I think that would absolutely humble anyone coming to this team mid season.

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O'Neal is owed another 7 million dollars next year, that's a hefty price to pay for a guy who doesn't play. Especially when you're giving up the best player in the deal.

That's just this year.  Whoever has O'Neal next year will get most of a full season out of him.

Like Nash, Randolph would have been a great addition to Rivers' pre-Thibodeau teams who played no defense.  In spite of Randolph's gawdy stats, I think Davis is a bigger asset because he knows the defense.  So does Nate.  If you're talking about adding a defensive oriented player...Maybe.  But Randolph is a sieve.

C'mon. It's a system. Ray Allen, Nate, others played no defense before they got here either.

Randolph is more than capable of embracing the defensive culture here over the next 2-3 months, particularly in a contract year. Glen Davis is also one of the league's worst rebounders while Randolph is one of the league's best. It's a clear upgrade.

[Roy H.]

In fairness to Randolph, the "he plays no defense" tag is largely unfair.  The last two years, at least, defensive metrics have had him as a slightly above-average defender.  He's also a dominant rebounder, which of course helps eliminate possessions for the other team.

[CelticG1]

O'Neal is owed another 7 million dollars next year, that's a hefty price to pay for a guy who doesn't play. Especially when you're giving up the best player in the deal.

That's just this year.  Whoever has O'Neal next year will get most of a full season out of him.

Like Nash, Randolph would have been a great addition to Rivers' pre-Thibodeau teams who played no defense.  In spite of Randolph's gawdy stats, I think Davis is a bigger asset because he knows the defense.  So does Nate.  If you're talking about adding a defensive oriented player...Maybe.  But Randolph is a sieve.

C'mon. It's a system. Ray Allen, Nate, others played no defense before they got here either.

Randolph is more than capable of embracing the defensive culture here over the next 2-3 months, particularly in a contract year. Glen Davis is also one of the league's worst rebounders while Randolph is one of the league's best. It's a clear upgrade.

Amare doesn't play any defense, Dirk doesn't play D are those guys not worthy of being on our team as a 6th man? come on. He's not at those guys level offensively but he is not that far off either.

Also the fact that some people wouldn't want Steve Nash as a back up PG on our team because of his defense is preposterous

[ssspence]

This isnt like Stephon Marburys situation where we could just waive him if he became a problem and not lose anybody.  If ZBO starts causing trouble here bc he feels hes not getting enough PT or touches, or not starting so he can showcase himself for his payday next year then we are stuck with him!    We wont have BBD or Jermaine anymore for the playoffs and might have to start leaving bags of money at Sheeds house so he'll come out of retirement.  I do not like this idea.

Heres more of Randolphs career stats besides his 20 points and 10 rebounds.....

Undated, in high school: Spent thirty days in a juvenile detention centre (jn two separate 15 day stints) for possession of stolen property (namely, guns, one of which he sold.) Also served thirty days of house arrest on a battery charge.
 
 
 2003: Punched team mate Ruben Patterson in the face, causing some heavy blood loss. Earned himself a suspension. It is not known whether Ruben deserved it.

-2003 case in which he was charged with driving under the influence of intoxicants after police smelled marijuana in his car.

- 2007 Sued for sexual assault. No criminal charges brought.

-2009  was arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence, though the charge was later reduced to one count of reckless driving

- 2010 Men arrested using Randolphs vehicle to sell drugs, and under investigation for financing an Indianapolis drug ring.

Stuck with him for 4 whole months? Question: When the guy has worked hard to improve his reputation both in and out of the locker room, has continued to show he's one of the most dominant players in the league, is going to be an unrestricted FA this summer, and has yet to play for a good team where winning it all is in sight (and could actually increase his value in the process), why would he sabotage dozens of millions of dollars from his own pockets and ruin the opportunity to play on an awesome veteran team in the process?

my point: unlikely. if he can do it in Memphis he'll probably get by in Boston. Oh yeah, and be a major upgrade in our quest for 18.