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Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2011, 09:59:19 PM »

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Boo this

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Team killer? He certainly killed us all the way to a game seven of the NBA finals last year.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 10:00:04 PM »

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To be fair to Sheed, he did not kill the Pistons when they traded for him.

Re: What if Rasheed does want to come back
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 10:01:34 PM »

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Granted, we all know who Rasheed is, and that is, in part, why his name is coming up...but is he the best big available?

After a long layoff, I really doubt it.

Shaq/Perk/Semih is a pretty solid C rotation, with Semih in the "Greg Kite" role.

No need for Sheed, even without JO.

I'd rather Sheed than Semih. Not to take anything away from Semih, but who do I think has a better chance of helping us win a title? Sheed.

Based on last time I saw them play, I'd say Bill Russell would help the most, but now, in 2011?  Of course not.  Same with Sheed.


Yeah thats the same thing

Point is, when it's over, it's over.

The guy played LAST year. Who was better, Jordan in '99 or the 15th man on any team? Point is, just because someone isn't in the NBA right now doesn't mean they're not better than the last player on the roster. PJ Brown came back and helped us out a ton. I'd take Sheed over a lot of current NBA big men. You're Bill Russell argument was ridiculous. A better argument would have been Russell when he was 36 years old not right now, but that would just be using logic, and who needs that?

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 10:01:51 PM »

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An instant team killer that almost helped the team win a championship last year. The front court depth of this team is now a mirage. If not Sheed, they need to find someone who can play.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2011, 10:03:25 PM »

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All reports I've read say that the Celtics loved having Sheed as a teammate. PP wants him back. Where have you read that Sheed was considered a team killer by anyone on the team?

Re: What if Rasheed does want to come back
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2011, 10:03:59 PM »

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I'm a little confused by the initial post.  Are we saying sign Sheed just so Miami doesn't sign him.  If Miami wants him, I hope he signs with him.  Do you really think Sheed has a chance to cover Davis, Garnett or Shaq? Absolutely not.  If another contending teams wants Sheed, then I'd rather him sign there.  He would be a great match up for us to go against.

Im not so sure I agree with you on this. Sure he has lost a step but Sheed was one of the best one on one low post defenders of his generation. Seeing Davis play offense against a playoff Rasheed Wallace would scare my eyeballs out.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2011, 10:05:57 PM »

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Boo this

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Team killer? He certainly killed us all the way to a game seven of the NBA finals last year.
Just because they achieved something in spite of his tremendous selfishness doesn't mean he should be brought back.

Remember when he just kept jacking up three after three after three after three and never made a single one.

He had the worst 3 point % in the league and just kept taking them.    What is that?  Good team play?  Attention to detail? Think he really studied the game plan and scouting reports?  Good clear drug free thinking?

You could set your watch to it. Oh the Celts are making a run. Oh they've tied it up in the last three minutes. Oh. Sheed just took 4 threes and missed them all. Oh. They lost by 7 points to the worst team in the league.

Why do we want to sign up for that again?

Bringing back Sheed would just be a big F U to every player that works hard on this team. I don't feel like doing that again.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2011, 10:08:55 PM »

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To be fair to Sheed, he did not kill the Pistons when they traded for him.
No. But he killed us for 82 plus games. Then he played like 5 good ones. Yay. The man showed up to do his job like 3% of the time. Give the man a bonus.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2011, 10:09:49 PM »

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The pistons have been stellar since sheed left and we certainly have no need for a well-rested big man who knows the system and only has to play for 3-4 months.
Andy Bernard doesnt lose constests. He wins them, or he quits them because they're unfair.

Re: What if Rasheed does want to come back
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2011, 10:10:53 PM »

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Granted, we all know who Rasheed is, and that is, in part, why his name is coming up...but is he the best big available?

After a long layoff, I really doubt it.

Shaq/Perk/Semih is a pretty solid C rotation, with Semih in the "Greg Kite" role.

No need for Sheed, even without JO.

I'd rather Sheed than Semih. Not to take anything away from Semih, but who do I think has a better chance of helping us win a title? Sheed.

Based on last time I saw them play, I'd say Bill Russell would help the most, but now, in 2011?  Of course not.  Same with Sheed.


Yeah thats the same thing

Point is, when it's over, it's over.

The guy played LAST year. Who was better, Jordan in '99 or the 15th man on any team? Point is, just because someone isn't in the NBA right now doesn't mean they're not better than the last player on the roster. PJ Brown came back and helped us out a ton. I'd take Sheed over a lot of current NBA big men. You're Bill Russell argument was ridiculous. A better argument would have been Russell when he was 36 years old not right now, but that would just be using logic, and who needs that?

No need to be uncivil.  Personal attacks are unwelcome.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2011, 10:11:14 PM »

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All reports I've read say that the Celtics loved having Sheed as a teammate. PP wants him back. Where have you read that Sheed was considered a team killer by anyone on the team?
Do you think they enjoyed having him for the right reasons? Or do you think maybe it's cause he took them out till 3am to the strip clubs and gave them doobies, which is why they played like crud and like they didn't care against the worst teams in the league and were like "Well turn it on. We'll turn it on"?

And now he's not here. And now they aren't like that

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2011, 10:12:30 PM »

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  If everyone's healthy he'd be our 6th big. If any team's 6th big is getting meaningful minutes in the playoffs that team is in serious trouble.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2011, 10:13:11 PM »

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The pistons have been stellar since sheed left and we certainly have no need for a well-rested big man who knows the system and only has to play for 3-4 months.
I dont like sheed all that much, but at this point it looks like JO is not going to give us anything. If they can convince sheed to start getting in shape now, then start practicing with the team in march. maybe he plays april may and june... i could handle that, given that there is no one else out there we can get
Andy Bernard doesnt lose constests. He wins them, or he quits them because they're unfair.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2011, 10:14:35 PM »

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  If everyone's healthy he'd be our 6th big. If any team's 6th big is getting meaningful minutes in the playoffs that team is in serious trouble.
JO wont be healthy, so if any of out other bigs go out(shaq, kg, semih namely) we'd be screwed. drop bradley or gody and get sheed on the team in a couple of months
Andy Bernard doesnt lose constests. He wins them, or he quits them because they're unfair.

Re: The conditions under which we take Sheed back
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2011, 10:16:39 PM »

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and as much as I like semih, he's still a rookie so you cant count on him to be playin 10-12 minutes a game in the playoffs. i'd rather have erden and bbd splittin time behind KG based on the matchup with a healthy perk starting and shaq/sheed and maybe jo comin off the bench
Andy Bernard doesnt lose constests. He wins them, or he quits them because they're unfair.