Is Harangody better than Scal?

[Onslaught]

Can't say for sure right now. But my gut tells me he'll be a better player. I'm sure some of the guys miss Scal in the locker room however.

[gar]

If luke can learn to play defense he will do well. We all know he can score and rebound against lesser teams. However, I would not use last night as any kind of real measuring stick. He needs to be able to rebound consistently and he has not shown that.

[birdwatcher]

Gody was considered one of the best players in the country in all of college basketball last year. He actually won Big East player of the year, so yeah. He's better than Scal, by a lot--he dropped in the draft presumably because of his height for his position (he's not equipped to be a full time 3), his bad haircut, and his ugly release.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Gody is better for sure. Scal couldn't hit ANY shots.....a one every 30 tries 3 maybe, but nothing else, defense, he didn't do anything, all he could do is stand there, or foul. his only asset was he is taller than gody. Gody rebounds, follows his shot, drives...he is way better, and scal has been around for 10 years, collecting nba welfare..!

[billysan]

Gody is already better.

Scal is behind in just about any category except experience IMO.

You gotta ask yourself, would Scal be getting minutes in our rotation ahead of Luke at this point as a PF? Really it is probably a wash and if Doc did play him ahead of Luke it would only be because of the time Scal has in our system.

Gody is much quicker than Scal, more athletic, runs the floor better, better rebounder and (I think) stronger. I dont see any physical edge for Scal defensively. If Doc needs offense, Luke is it hands down. He is clearly the better shooter and better ball handler.


Scals biggest value at this stage would be spot minutes against long perimeter shooting bigs and some power threes if they werent too much quicker than him.

[dpaps]

Gody is better for sure. Scal couldn't hit ANY shots.....a one every 30 tries 3 maybe, but nothing else, defense, he didn't do anything, all he could do is stand there, or foul. his only asset was he is taller than gody. Gody rebounds, follows his shot, drives...he is way better, and scal has been around for 10 years, collecting nba welfare..!

Try a career 35% 3 pt shooter. That's better than 1 out of 3. Nevermind this 1 out of 30 garbage.

Anyone who thinks that Scal couldn't play defense doesn't really understand basketball. Sure, he wasn't a top tier defender. But he was a very good positional defender and almost never bit on pump fakes. He used his fouls because he knows he doesn't have to worry about fouling out. He defended similar to how Keys does.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Gody is better for sure. Scal couldn't hit ANY shots.....a one every 30 tries 3 maybe, but nothing else, defense, he didn't do anything, all he could do is stand there, or foul. his only asset was he is taller than gody. Gody rebounds, follows his shot, drives...he is way better, and scal has been around for 10 years, collecting nba welfare..!

Try a career 35% 3 pt shooter. That's better than 1 out of 3. Nevermind this 1 out of 30 garbage.

Anyone who thinks that Scal couldn't play defense doesn't really understand basketball. Sure, he wasn't a top tier defender. But he was a very good positional defender and almost never bit on pump fakes. He used his fouls because he knows he doesn't have to worry about fouling out. He defended similar to how Keys does.

Ya, I don't know hoop..probably played more league games than you ever watched on TV. Look up a youtube video of what scal could do, when he first came here, cutting to the hoop, dunking, rebounding....then, shortly after that, nothing....does he play on Chicago, no. His stats are pretty lame, zero rebounds, and garbage time stat building. Wow. Put him on your team, not mine. Did you see him play vs us in chicago...why not....scrub. YOU..can like him all you want....but as usual..no need to call me out to prove your point. I don't like scal, he is a non-contributor..and a waste of Celtic $$$. There wasn't ANYTHING GOOD about the guy in the last 5 years..funny, maybe, like when he compared his game to Shaqs.....that was a good one. I understand people who at least TRY to earn their money, and not stand in the corner waiting for the ball. He had the first Celtic sneakers that were allergic to paint...on BOTH ends of the floor..and he looks like the dutch boy to boot, go figure...!

[MBz]

Once Scal got the contract from Ainge, he tanked it in from there.  He gained weight. His last year in New Jersey he averaged 4.5 boards per 21 minutes.  I don't think he showed that kind of rebounding ability once while in Boston.  Guy was a joke.  Gody is a much better offensive player at this point, defensively I don't see much out of him yet.  Gody is a much better rebounder though.  Within a few years I can see Gody being a very serviceable offensive player in this league.  He's turned himself into a nice shooter, he rebounds, defensively he will probably always be slow, but he'll give you the effort.  That isn't bad for a 2nd big off the bench.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Once Scal got the contract from Ainge, he tanked it in from there.  He gained weight. His last year in New Jersey he averaged 4.5 boards per 21 minutes.  I don't think he showed that kind of rebounding ability once while in Boston.  Guy was a joke.  Gody is a much better offensive player at this point, defensively I don't see much out of him yet.  Gody is a much better rebounder though.  Within a few years I can see Gody being a very serviceable offensive player in this league.  He's turned himself into a nice shooter, he rebounds, defensively he will probably always be slow, but he'll give you the effort.  That isn't bad for a 2nd big off the bench.

Now that post deserves a TP....!

[Mazingerz]

Scalabrine was lazy (he was happy being called the mascot - and trying to act like it too). My vote goes to Gody - he was impressive versus the raptors.

[jambr380]

Gody is better for sure. Scal couldn't hit ANY shots.....a one every 30 tries 3 maybe, but nothing else, defense, he didn't do anything, all he could do is stand there, or foul. his only asset was he is taller than gody. Gody rebounds, follows his shot, drives...he is way better, and scal has been around for 10 years, collecting nba welfare..!

Try a career 35% 3 pt shooter. That's better than 1 out of 3. Nevermind this 1 out of 30 garbage.

Anyone who thinks that Scal couldn't play defense doesn't really understand basketball. Sure, he wasn't a top tier defender. But he was a very good positional defender and almost never bit on pump fakes. He used his fouls because he knows he doesn't have to worry about fouling out. He defended similar to how Keys does.

Nice post. I was one of Scal's biggest critics when he signed in Boston - and for good reason. I do think as the team 'matured', so did he. Scal is the kind of player I [personally] would like to have on my team. He sets good picks, works hard defensively, and spreads the floor well (and has no ego). In a time where the NBA has become all about potential and athleticism, Scal was able to break the rotation on a championship team. As he gets older, he is becoming less effective, but you have to appreciate his knowledge of the game and the little things he does. By NOT taking tons of shots, the stars on the team get to flex their muscles even more.

[cornbreadsmart]

     Scal showed up every year in worse shape than he could have been in. Just about every other Celtic worked hard in the off season to improve themselves. Scal sucked at the little things to. Lead pass off inbounds directly to the other team,grabbing jerseys repeatedly earning free technical foul shots for the other team. How about a nice no look outlet pass he throws out of bounds? He was HORRIBLE. Hilarious how he got credit for playing good defense on Rashard Lewis in the playoffs. People remeber like one or two possessions when he was able to stay in front of the guy and got burned every single other time. Good riddance. Harangody looks like a guy that will actually work on his game. Refreshing after Scal. 

[dpaps]

Gody is better for sure. Scal couldn't hit ANY shots.....a one every 30 tries 3 maybe, but nothing else, defense, he didn't do anything, all he could do is stand there, or foul. his only asset was he is taller than gody. Gody rebounds, follows his shot, drives...he is way better, and scal has been around for 10 years, collecting nba welfare..!

Try a career 35% 3 pt shooter. That's better than 1 out of 3. Nevermind this 1 out of 30 garbage.

Anyone who thinks that Scal couldn't play defense doesn't really understand basketball. Sure, he wasn't a top tier defender. But he was a very good positional defender and almost never bit on pump fakes. He used his fouls because he knows he doesn't have to worry about fouling out. He defended similar to how Keys does.

Ya, I don't know hoop..probably played more league games than you ever watched on TV. Look up a youtube video of what scal could do, when he first came here, cutting to the hoop, dunking, rebounding....then, shortly after that, nothing....does he play on Chicago, no. His stats are pretty lame, zero rebounds, and garbage time stat building. Wow. Put him on your team, not mine. Did you see him play vs us in chicago...why not....scrub. YOU..can like him all you want....but as usual..no need to call me out to prove your point. I don't like scal, he is a non-contributor..and a waste of Celtic $$$. There wasn't ANYTHING GOOD about the guy in the last 5 years..funny, maybe, like when he compared his game to Shaqs.....that was a good one. I understand people who at least TRY to earn their money, and not stand in the corner waiting for the ball. He had the first Celtic sneakers that were allergic to paint...on BOTH ends of the floor..and he looks like the dutch boy to boot, go figure...!

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Mods, any way to delete a post you've made btw?

[MBz]

     Scal showed up every year in worse shape than he could have been in. Just about every other Celtic worked hard in the off season to improve themselves. Scal sucked at the little things to. Lead pass off inbounds directly to the other team,grabbing jerseys repeatedly earning free technical foul shots for the other team. How about a nice no look outlet pass he throws out of bounds? He was HORRIBLE. Hilarious how he got credit for playing good defense on Rashard Lewis in the playoffs. People remeber like one or two possessions when he was able to stay in front of the guy and got burned every single other time. Good riddance. Harangody looks like a guy that will actually work on his game. Refreshing after Scal. 

Exactly, he's already improved a lot since his junior year of college.  The guy has the ability to be a very serviceable player in this league.  He's not going to be Kevin Garnett, but he's a guy that could have himself a 12 year career on being a very good role player.  The guys that are 8,9,10 on your roster are very important too.

[clover]

     Scal showed up every year in worse shape than he could have been in. Just about every other Celtic worked hard in the off season to improve themselves. Scal sucked at the little things to. Lead pass off inbounds directly to the other team,grabbing jerseys repeatedly earning free technical foul shots for the other team. How about a nice no look outlet pass he throws out of bounds? He was HORRIBLE. Hilarious how he got credit for playing good defense on Rashard Lewis in the playoffs. People remeber like one or two possessions when he was able to stay in front of the guy and got burned every single other time. Good riddance. Harangody looks like a guy that will actually work on his game. Refreshing after Scal. 

Exactly, he's already improved a lot since his junior year of college.  The guy has the ability to be a very serviceable player in this league.  He's not going to be Kevin Garnett, but he's a guy that could have himself a 12 year career on being a very good role player.  The guys that are 8,9,10 on your roster are very important too.

Luke unquestionably plays hard and I think he will continue to work hard.  But as with a lot of rookies, it is apparent that he still needs to be nudged up to the work-hard-on-your-game standards of the NBA.  The players and coaches always say that he'll be good if he works hard on it, and he recently acknowledged that the other players were pressing him to take more practice shots.