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anthony randolph
« on: January 06, 2011, 11:47:08 PM »

Offline celticsfan8591

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The Knicks are looking to trade Randolph for a first rounder so they can get Carmelo.  I'm not sure if the Knicks want our pick because its going to be low, but if they do do you think we should pull the trigger on something like Harangody, Wafer, Semih, and a first rounder for Randolph?  I think he could be a monster in a few years and he's already a pretty good athletic backup forward, which we could use.  KG could mentor him, as they are both versatile big men with similar builds.  Randolph's definitely more talented than anyone we could get with our first rounder, hes the same age as a college junior, and he fills a need both now and in the future.  At worst, we trade 3 scrubs and a low first rounder for 1 decent backup.  If Randolph realizes his considerable potential (he has shown flashes whenever he gets minutes), we could acquire an All-Star for next to nothing

As for helping the Knicks get Carmelo, I don't see what the big deal is because they already lack depth and defense. Carmelo's an average defender at best and they would need to trade at least 2 of their 7 rotation guys to get him.  I just don't see how they could beat us even with Carmelo.  He doesn't address any of their weaknesses and he excels at something the Knicks already do very well, which is score.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 11:53:31 PM »

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The Knicks are looking to trade Randolph for a first rounder so they can get Carmelo.  I'm not sure if the Knicks want our pick because its going to be low, but if they do do you think we should pull the trigger on something like Harangody, Wafer, Semih, and a first rounder for Randolph?  I think he could be a monster in a few years and he's already a pretty good athletic backup forward, which we could use.  KG could mentor him, as they are both versatile big men with similar builds.  Randolph's definitely more talented than anyone we could get with our first rounder, hes the same age as a college junior, and he fills a need both now and in the future.  At worst, we trade 3 scrubs and a low first rounder for 1 decent backup.  If Randolph realizes his considerable potential (he has shown flashes whenever he gets minutes), we could acquire an All-Star for next to nothing

As for helping the Knicks get Carmelo, I don't see what the big deal is because they already lack depth and defense. Carmelo's an average defender at best and they would need to trade at least 2 of their 7 rotation guys to get him.  I just don't see how they could beat us even with Carmelo.  He doesn't address any of their weaknesses and he excels at something the Knicks already do very well, which is score.

I would trade Avery Bradley and a 1st  for Randolph, he could learn a lot from KG and has a lot of potential . This could be another Micheal Beasley situation although Beasley is a much better scorer at this point. Why not take a shot

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 12:04:20 AM »

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Right now, people need to seriously start asking themselves the question, "Is Randolph a bust?" There was once a time when I was high on Randolph, not anymore. Since he has come into the league, he has not improved any aspect of his game. He is the same exact player, which is not a good thing. He's basically Lamar Odom without any of Odom's skills.

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 12:13:44 AM »

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he's an intriguing guy, he's 20 he's way too young to be called a bust yet.  although the fact that he's about to be on his 3rd team tells you something, it would be awful to have a personality like a sean williams or patrick o'bryant...

i'd give up a first and bradley, godey or von wafer, not sure i'd give up any more than that.  doubt NY would want to trade him to us, though.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 01:22:12 AM »

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I'd be willing to take a shot at Randolph. He is an intriguing athletic forward to pair with Rondo in the future. He has shown flashes of brilliance everywhere he's been but has often been relegated to bench duty because of his inability play with consistency. Danny's been known to give outcasts and problematic players a second chance so this could be possible.  Last I heard, I think Minny and NY are in talks for a Randolph trade with Telfair's contract being the deal breaker so far.  

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 03:13:12 AM »

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The Knicks didn't give Randolph a chance, and he doesn't even fit in the Knicks system anyway. It's no surprise things didn't work out.

That said, Randolph doesn't have much potential.

He's a below-average man-to-man defender, he has poor passing skills, and his development offensively is very suspect.

He's not the type of player to thrive in the Celtics system. Questionable defense and inefficient offense while he was with GSW.

Even if his offense would flesh out nicely, I don't see defense ever or BBIQ being a strong point in his career.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 03:16:37 AM »

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He's not the type of player to thrive in the Celtics system. Questionable defense and inefficient offense while he was with GSW.

Yeah, I'd take a flyer on him now to see what he has a few years in the future, but there's no way Doc would trust (or should trust) him with PT now or maybe even next year..

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 08:13:20 AM »

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cheap money for massive potential. bring him in and see if KG can bring out the best in him.
worst case, loose a few low first rounders. best case, KG's heir.


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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 08:53:05 AM »

Offline Jon Niednagel

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I think being around the vets on this team would be good for AR. I'd do the deal, but like others, I'm becoming increasingly more skeptical of AR. Maybe he will have a J.O. or Rashard Lewis-like late bloom.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 08:58:15 AM »

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I think Randolph has a lot of potential still.  Super young, very athletic, and so long.  He could be a very good player.  I was surprised to see him buried in the bench on New York and I hope he finds a good situation for himself somewhere.

It won't be here though.  No chance.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 09:56:15 AM »

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Randolph might end up being Gerald Green 2.0.

We have a title to worry about, Id rather have Garnett more focused on winning banner 18 than guided a raw, potential filled, head case as best he can.

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 10:51:50 AM »

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Let's not forget that big men take longer to develop. That said, he is only 21 years old. If we can land him I think it's a no-brainer. Ainge is not scared to roll the dice on players (Marbury, West, etc.) and it should be no different with Randolph. A player who with more maturity, experience, and pounds could be a perennial all-star.

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 11:18:09 AM »

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The C's first round pick won't be high enough to land Randolph. I'd love let the C's take a shot with him. He has elite potential, and the C's could really use the sort of player he could become down the line to play with Rondo.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 11:25:26 AM »

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Randolph might end up being Gerald Green 2.0.

We have a title to worry about, Id rather have Garnett more focused on winning banner 18 than guided a raw, potential filled, head case as best he can.

Not sure why he is a head case...  Sure he hasn't quite jumped out the gate and realized his potential but he is very young.  And he was in a terrible situation in Golden State where he had very speroadic playing time.  Nellie seemed to have issues with him but I think as a player I would of had huge issues with Nellie too.


Again, would love him here and think we would handle him very well.  I doubt anything happens with him now but I'd keep an eye on him for a future Rondo pairing.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 11:30:55 AM »

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The problem with Randolph is he has good length and "athleticism," yet I wouldn't consider him good at any one aspect of playing basketball. He is a decent rebounder.But he is a terrible shooter, scorer, defender, passer, etc.

If you were honestly evaluating Randolph, what are his strengths besides his "potential"? I think if he bulks up, gets a little bit stronger, learns the game a little better, and picks up his motor, he could be a nice energy/rebounding guy with a very limited offensive game. This player would still be a nice bench guy, though.