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By the Trade Deadline, Danny will:

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Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2010, 10:38:09 AM »

Offline BigDanz2000

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If I were Danny, I would be doing whatever I could to get some media buzz directed towards Boston.  This is the only way the Celtics are ever going to be noticed.  First Danny should make a trade, a 3 for 1 deal would work great, this would give Danny the flexibility to make some free agent pickups during the All Star break, or whenever he sees fit.

So Danny should trade away Kendrick Perkins, Jermaine O'Neal, and Nate Robinson for Ryan Gomes.

Why for the Celtics? Perkins is Hurt and probably will never play again, Jermaine Oneal is the Key to this deal, he is just an absolute beast and surefire HOF'er. And Nate Robinson is just trade fodder at this point, he sees no real minutes, and he is just so small. The Celtics get Ryan Gomes in Return, the big we need and have been missing for the past few years.  Gomes is a dominant low post presence and he can jump really high and shoot 3's with the best of them.  

Okay so there are 2 rosters spots left, I would be tempted to trade Avery Bradley to the timberwolves for Sebastian Telfair, for a number of reasons, 1 being Telfair is the cousin of former celtic legend Stephon Marbury. 2, Telfair, when asked to play is a top 3 PG in the world, 3, he starred in a movie about himself, and the Celtics need more movie stars because it generates a Buzz, 4. He was once the face of this franchise, he made a commercial about coming to the Gahden, so it is obvious his acting talents are just as great or even better than his on the court skills.  

So who does Danny pickup? if I were him, I would not wait for any mid season buyouts, you just are not sure who you would get? Danny could wait for Carmelo Anthony to be bought out, and he would be the perfect fit at the 4 spot behind Gomes, but that is too risky, because he might never get bought out and that could make Carmelo Retire. Which is what I see happening. Okay Danny needs to get to the D-League and get to Idaho, where they just signed Antoine Walker.  This guy is on fire right now, I know most of you have probably never heard of him, but trust me on this one, he is an absolute Gem and to be honest I am very surprised that no NBA team has found out about him yet.  When a team does, the rest of the NBA is going to be left in the wake of his dominance. If there were an NBA D League Hall of Fame, he would already be in it. Danny needs to just go out and sign him now.  Danny does not need to even go see him play, he can just take my word for it. Antoine Walker also shoots threes at a very successful percentage, last night in springfield he hit 6-12! that is 75%! so put your calculators away, I just did the quick math for you. He would be a good fit at any position really. No Brainer.

The Last Roster spot goes to Gerald Green, this guy can fly! literally.  He was a McDonalds All American and won the slam dunk contest in High School and in the NBA and in Russia! he would make the perfect half time show.  He could just dunk for 20 minutes, before the game, at halftime, and maybe after the game has ended. If he is playing Russia that means he has obvious talent, but seeing as how he won so many dunk contests, his talent is limitless, and would be a great representation for the Celtics at the All-Star Game slam dunk Contest, and he does this with a missing finger! amazing. And he is only 24!

If Danny keeps this current roster together, with the additions I have added for the next 10-15 years, this team is in line to Win 10-15 more championships.

:)

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2010, 10:40:21 AM »

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my forehead has a big red hand print on it from the self-dopeslap i did while reading this. :-\

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2010, 10:54:14 AM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2010, 10:58:38 AM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.
If Perkins or Jermaine are healthy Semih will be inactive.

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2010, 11:00:11 AM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.
If Perkins or Jermaine are healthy Semih will be inactive.

i disagree. i think he has earned a spot.  luke, avery, or von will be inactive instead i think.  not to mentioned JO is always injured

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2010, 11:02:37 AM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.
If Perkins or Jermaine are healthy Semih will be inactive.

Not only b/c they are better players/experienced, Semih needs surgery... why let him play when they are back if he doesn't need to?
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Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2010, 11:23:53 AM »

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I'm not sure the "pressure issue" was directed toward the financial issues this team will face at the end of the year, and frankly, I'm not the guy to rely on, but the question is "Does Danny have pressure to make moves with guys they probably won't want to pay next year?"

If I am reading this right, we are paying cheap money for MDaniels, DWest, Perk and BB who all are free agents at the end of this year? So do you keep everyone and deal with the contract crazies and possible loss of these key players with no compensation, to win now? Or do you move them before trade deadline?

Thoughts?

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2010, 11:38:38 AM »

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If I were Danny, I would be doing whatever I could to get some media buzz directed towards Boston.  This is the only way the Celtics are ever going to be noticed.  First Danny should make a trade, a 3 for 1 deal would work great, this would give Danny the flexibility to make some free agent pickups during the All Star break, or whenever he sees fit.

So Danny should trade away Kendrick Perkins, Jermaine O'Neal, and Nate Robinson for Ryan Gomes.

Why for the Celtics? Perkins is Hurt and probably will never play again, Jermaine Oneal is the Key to this deal, he is just an absolute beast and surefire HOF'er. And Nate Robinson is just trade fodder at this point, he sees no real minutes, and he is just so small. The Celtics get Ryan Gomes in Return, the big we need and have been missing for the past few years.  Gomes is a dominant low post presence and he can jump really high and shoot 3's with the best of them.  

Okay so there are 2 rosters spots left, I would be tempted to trade Avery Bradley to the timberwolves for Sebastian Telfair, for a number of reasons, 1 being Telfair is the cousin of former celtic legend Stephon Marbury. 2, Telfair, when asked to play is a top 3 PG in the world, 3, he starred in a movie about himself, and the Celtics need more movie stars because it generates a Buzz, 4. He was once the face of this franchise, he made a commercial about coming to the Gahden, so it is obvious his acting talents are just as great or even better than his on the court skills.  

So who does Danny pickup? if I were him, I would not wait for any mid season buyouts, you just are not sure who you would get? Danny could wait for Carmelo Anthony to be bought out, and he would be the perfect fit at the 4 spot behind Gomes, but that is too risky, because he might never get bought out and that could make Carmelo Retire. Which is what I see happening. Okay Danny needs to get to the D-League and get to Idaho, where they just signed Antoine Walker.  This guy is on fire right now, I know most of you have probably never heard of him, but trust me on this one, he is an absolute Gem and to be honest I am very surprised that no NBA team has found out about him yet.  When a team does, the rest of the NBA is going to be left in the wake of his dominance. If there were an NBA D League Hall of Fame, he would already be in it. Danny needs to just go out and sign him now.  Danny does not need to even go see him play, he can just take my word for it. Antoine Walker also shoots threes at a very successful percentage, last night in springfield he hit 6-12! that is 75%! so put your calculators away, I just did the quick math for you. He would be a good fit at any position really. No Brainer.

The Last Roster spot goes to Gerald Green, this guy can fly! literally.  He was a McDonalds All American and won the slam dunk contest in High School and in the NBA and in Russia! he would make the perfect half time show.  He could just dunk for 20 minutes, before the game, at halftime, and maybe after the game has ended. If he is playing Russia that means he has obvious talent, but seeing as how he won so many dunk contests, his talent is limitless, and would be a great representation for the Celtics at the All-Star Game slam dunk Contest, and he does this with a missing finger! amazing. And he is only 24!

If Danny keeps this current roster together, with the additions I have added for the next 10-15 years, this team is in line to Win 10-15 more championships.

:)


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i really hope so.
if not i just don't know where to begin...

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2010, 11:46:21 AM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.
If Perkins or Jermaine are healthy Semih will be inactive.

i disagree. i think he has earned a spot.  luke, avery, or von will be inactive instead i think.  not to mentioned JO is always injured
How many big men do you think we'll need in a given game? I think Gody will clearly go inactive first, but after that Semih will be inactive. We're much more likely to need situational shooter or defensive player than a 5th/6th big man.

Of course if we're not fully healthy he'll dress, but won't play.

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2010, 11:53:44 AM »

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I'm not sure the "pressure issue" was directed toward the financial issues this team will face at the end of the year, and frankly, I'm not the guy to rely on, but the question is "Does Danny have pressure to make moves with guys they probably won't want to pay next year?"

If I am reading this right, we are paying cheap money for MDaniels, DWest, Perk and BB who all are free agents at the end of this year? So do you keep everyone and deal with the contract crazies and possible loss of these key players with no compensation, to win now? Or do you move them before trade deadline?

Thoughts?


Do you know how hard it is to win the 'ship? I would say focus on the future IF this wasn't pretty much the last chance (anytime soon) to go for it with a championship caliber team. You cant worry too much about the next few years when right now is the best shot at the Celtics getting another banner... it's not going to be easy to reassemble another team like this, it's going to take years... you win if you can now, b/c whether you trade for the future now or later it's gonna be a long process to get back to contending.
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Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2010, 11:57:49 AM »

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What pressure is there right now to do anything?

And where would so-called "pressure" being coming from?


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Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2010, 12:07:59 PM »

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What pressure is there right now to do anything?

And where would so-called "pressure" being coming from?
I'd love Danny and the team to feel the pressure to be more awesome.

Only winning 84% of their games? The Cetlics should be ashamed with their lax attitudes....

Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2010, 12:17:50 PM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

  Haha. Semih's earned some minutes but Perk will fight for the minutes Erden doesn't get? That's even better than our starting center for the last 3 years is going to cause chemistry issues when he comes back.


Haha? This sounds like it could be a problem to me.

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Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2010, 12:36:33 PM »

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I'd trade Perk and Bradley for Oden.
Not with Oden out for the season.

The Celtics are too close to a title to take that risk. Maybe sometime in the future.

I think Perkins' return is only going to cause the C's chemistry to be messed up. Shaq, when healthy, is the clear starting center on this team. Big Baby has earned his minutes and I think Semih has earned a few too. That leaves JO and Perk fighting for the rest. When everyone is healthy, I see problems. Trade Perk and Bradley for Oden and hope/pray for the huge upside.

So let's assume there actually would be any chemistry problems, which I can only assume is speculation from you. You are free to prove me otherwise with a link or a "source".

Part of the reason this has the possibility of becoming a problem is because Perkins got injured in the NBA Finals and has been out since. You want to trade him for someone who's pretty much been injured ever since he's donned a NBA uniform in Greg Oden? Are you serious?

Also, Perkins is much stronger defensively than Semih, he may earn back some minutes over Semih from that alone. And like someone else said, Semih will already need surgery in the offseason, why risk that shoulder anymore than you have to once Perkins can get back on the court at all? Heck, once Shaq and JO come back, they themselves may force Semih to be inactive. You want Semih over either of those guys when they're healthy, let alone Perkins? I wouldn't...

And in the process, you want to throw in Bradley. Laughable. If you really wanted to do it that bad, at least attempt to get a straight up trade. I don't know why you'd want to throw in Bradley with that mentality in mind, though.


Re: Will Danny cave to the pressure?
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2010, 12:51:46 PM »

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The Celtics don't feel any pressure whatsoever. They are the defending Eastern conference champs as well as the #1 team in the East. Given the recent success of the Heat, I figure them to be the only legitimate competition in the Eastern Conference. The Magic have a lot to prove between now and the playoffs regarding how all these ball handlers and scorers can co-exist. The Knicks, too, are beginning to fumble again. They are the type of team that plays hot for two or three quarters but collapses once their long distance shots stop falling. I am not sure if acquiring Carmelo would change that.