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Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 10:35:19 AM »

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Add Charlotte to the list of third team candidates for the inevitable Melo trade.
They don't have any of the type of pieces that the Nuggets want.

They might get involved in a three team trade, but that's it.

I'm sure CHA would offer both Jax and Wallace for Melo.  The numbers work.  DEN would turn it down if it didn't include a pick, but they'd surely have to think about it.

Or, a Jackson/Wallace/Diaw for Melo/Billups deal works as well...not that Melo would take that deal, either...or anything going to Charlotte.

But really, it's not that CHA doesn't have what Denver wants, it's that they don't have what Melo wants.
They wouldn't have to think about it given Stephen Jackson's contract and production. He has basically negative trade value at this point.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2010, 10:36:03 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 10:36:52 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.
They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2010, 10:40:48 AM »

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Near impossible to pry Wallace away with what the C's have to offer.

Daniels, Perk, bradely and a pick... Probably wouldnt get it done but I would trade Perk if it meant getting back Wallace in return.

I could see the Knicks Nuggets and Bobcats working on a three team trade.

Melo to NY
Wallace and a Char first rounder to Denver Azabuikie or Douglas and a NY first rounder to Denver
Galli, Curry, Randolph, to Char Player from Denver to Char as well.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2010, 10:50:39 AM »

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Add Charlotte to the list of third team candidates for the inevitable Melo trade.
They don't have any of the type of pieces that the Nuggets want.

They might get involved in a three team trade, but that's it.

I'm sure CHA would offer both Jax and Wallace for Melo.  The numbers work.  DEN would turn it down if it didn't include a pick, but they'd surely have to think about it.

Or, a Jackson/Wallace/Diaw for Melo/Billups deal works as well...not that Melo would take that deal, either...or anything going to Charlotte.

But really, it's not that CHA doesn't have what Denver wants, it's that they don't have what Melo wants.
They wouldn't have to think about it given Stephen Jackson's contract and production. He has basically negative trade value at this point.

I'm not so sure.  Jackson only makes around $8.5 million this year.  Not bad for a #2 option (which would suit him best).


Of both of these guys go to Orlando for either Rashard Lewis or the expiring deal of Vince Carter (plus random pieces on both sides), that would make Orlando quite something...

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2010, 11:01:41 AM »

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Add Charlotte to the list of third team candidates for the inevitable Melo trade.
They don't have any of the type of pieces that the Nuggets want.

They might get involved in a three team trade, but that's it.

I'm sure CHA would offer both Jax and Wallace for Melo.  The numbers work.  DEN would turn it down if it didn't include a pick, but they'd surely have to think about it.

Or, a Jackson/Wallace/Diaw for Melo/Billups deal works as well...not that Melo would take that deal, either...or anything going to Charlotte.

But really, it's not that CHA doesn't have what Denver wants, it's that they don't have what Melo wants.
They wouldn't have to think about it given Stephen Jackson's contract and production. He has basically negative trade value at this point.

I'm not so sure.  Jackson only makes around $8.5 million this year.  Not bad for a #2 option (which would suit him best).


Of both of these guys go to Orlando for either Rashard Lewis or the expiring deal of Vince Carter (plus random pieces on both sides), that would make Orlando quite something...

I actually like this alot for Orlando... Steer clear of Arenas and go for Wallace.

I wonder if the Magic could pry Wallace, Diaw and a role guy for Carter's expiring and Lewis. This would help the Magic emensily on Defense. And i like the idea of Bass starting to bulk up the frontline next to Howard and bringing Pietrus and Diaw off the bench.

PG Nelson/Williams/Duhon
SG Reddick/Richardson
SF Wallace/Pietrus
PF Bass/Diaw
C  Howard/Gortat

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2010, 11:10:15 AM »

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Add Charlotte to the list of third team candidates for the inevitable Melo trade.
They don't have any of the type of pieces that the Nuggets want.

They might get involved in a three team trade, but that's it.

I'm sure CHA would offer both Jax and Wallace for Melo.  The numbers work.  DEN would turn it down if it didn't include a pick, but they'd surely have to think about it.

Or, a Jackson/Wallace/Diaw for Melo/Billups deal works as well...not that Melo would take that deal, either...or anything going to Charlotte.

But really, it's not that CHA doesn't have what Denver wants, it's that they don't have what Melo wants.
They wouldn't have to think about it given Stephen Jackson's contract and production. He has basically negative trade value at this point.

I'm not so sure.  Jackson only makes around $8.5 million this year.  Not bad for a #2 option (which would suit him best).


Of both of these guys go to Orlando for either Rashard Lewis or the expiring deal of Vince Carter (plus random pieces on both sides), that would make Orlando quite something...
He makes around $9 million next year, and he's such an inefficient chucker.....

Compare that to a prospect like Favors? I just don't see how that offer is attractive at all. Plus Wallace is a good contract for his production, but he's not the type who will take them to another level.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2010, 11:10:32 AM »

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I think the only way for Charlotte to get value for Gerald Wallace in a trade is to trade him for a young player on his rookie contract who hasn't quite established himself yet.

Take that young player and begin a full blown rebuilding process with that player the first piece to the puzzle.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2010, 11:14:51 AM »

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I think the Bobcats should, and are shopping everyone on their roster.  Unfortunately, I don't think they are going to get nearly as much value as they need from any of them to get the franchise going in the right direction again. 

This team was built to sell a couple extra tickets, rather than contend, and now they are paying the price for that.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2010, 11:23:52 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.
They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

I think you could make an argument that Gerald Wallace would compliment Amare Stoudemire better than Carmelo.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2010, 11:41:01 AM »

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Davis + 2011 1st round draft pick + cash for Wallace?  I'd love it if they could pull that off.
I'd love it if it was legal in the trade machine.

No one is giving us a borderline all star for Glen Davis.

Perhaps MJ should read Celticsblog more often to find the "real value" of Davis  ::)

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2010, 11:44:37 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.
They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

I think you could make an argument that Gerald Wallace would compliment Amare Stoudemire better than Carmelo.

Another thought that ran through my mind... Wallace would fit incredibly well with DAntoni's run and gun small ball style and could give the team a defensive presence that is greatly needed. It would cost less to get him too.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2010, 11:51:40 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.
They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

I think you could make an argument that Gerald Wallace would compliment Amare Stoudemire better than Carmelo.

Another thought that ran through my mind... Wallace would fit incredibly well with DAntoni's run and gun small ball style and could give the team a defensive presence that is greatly needed. It would cost less to get him too.
I'm not so sure he'd fit offensively. He'd be a big help on the glass, but he's not a shooter.

I like Wallace at the SF position better than the PF.

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2010, 11:54:43 AM »

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It's probably counterproductive to their long term plans, but Stephen Jackson and/or Gerald Wallace would really compliment the Knicks well.
They just went through salary cap hell with a bad team why would they go for that again?

I think you could make an argument that Gerald Wallace would compliment Amare Stoudemire better than Carmelo.

Another thought that ran through my mind... Wallace would fit incredibly well with DAntoni's run and gun small ball style and could give the team a defensive presence that is greatly needed. It would cost less to get him too.
I'm not so sure he'd fit offensively. He'd be a big help on the glass, but he's not a shooter.

I like Wallace at the SF position better than the PF.

Isn't Gerald Wallace pretty much the same player as Matrix-era Shawn Marion?

Re: Bobcats shopping Wallace?
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2010, 11:55:39 AM »

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If they are able to keep Gali and Chandler then he doesnt need to fill the role of a shooter. He would be a slasher and a fastbreak guy. Then already have a number one offensive option in Amare, Felton provides nice scoring at the point, I would easily be happy with Wallace as a third scoring option. Felton running the break with Amare and Wallace filling the lane is pretty scary. But the whole point is that the Knicks dont need help offensively as they are 2nd in the league in points per game. Wallace is brought in to give them some defensive identity because they are 28th in points allowed.