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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2010, 09:01:48 PM »

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a tad bit of overreacting their ZAZA   ::)
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2010, 09:02:11 PM »

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OH please. That's Davis holding him up and Zaza flailing like a crazy person. That's not a flagrant.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2010, 09:02:44 PM »

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more euro trash flopping
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2010, 09:02:47 PM »

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Zaza's seizure = flagrant?
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2010, 09:03:17 PM »

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I have to admit that's a flagrant by definition. Davis didn't go for the ball, just wanted to stop his man from shooting, but you have to go for the ball.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2010, 09:04:11 PM »

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boston is so flat and a step slow tonight it is sad
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2010, 09:04:22 PM »

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Quote from: USG on December 16, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
OH please. That's Davis holding him up and Zaza flailing like a crazy person. That's not a flagrant.

TP that got a laugh out of me.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2010, 09:04:36 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on December 16, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
I have to admit that's a flagrant by definition. Davis didn't go for the ball, just wanted to stop his man from shooting.

That's not the definition of a flagrant.  It's excessive force without a play for the ball.  Davis didn't use excessive force.  Guys wrap people up all the time.  It;s called an intentional foul.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2010, 09:04:51 PM »

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Even if that is *technically* a flagrant, the fact is they would never have called it without Zaza spazzing out. The refs encourage flopping with this nonsense.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2010, 09:04:59 PM »

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Do all Euro players flop? It seems that way. Cheap.  ::)
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2010, 09:05:12 PM »

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If that foul were committed against a Boston player, we'd be screaming for a flagrant.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2010, 09:05:20 PM »

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just call it both ways...how many times have we seen PP clubbed going down the lane and zero is called
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2010, 09:05:41 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on December 16, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
I have to admit that's a flagrant by definition. Davis didn't go for the ball, just wanted to stop his man from shooting, but you have to go for the ball.

a. If contact committed against a player, with or without the ball, is interpreted to be unnecessary, a flagrant foul--penalty (1) will be assessed. A personal foul is charged to the offender and a team foul is charged to the team.

You can wrap up without it being a flagrant.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2010, 09:05:53 PM »

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Also I don't think that *was* technically a flagrant. I think it was the refs rewarding drama.
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Re: Hawks (16-10) at Celtics (20-4) 12/16
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2010, 09:05:58 PM »

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Quote from: snively on December 16, 2010, 09:04:36 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on December 16, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
I have to admit that's a flagrant by definition. Davis didn't go for the ball, just wanted to stop his man from shooting.

That's not the definition of a flagrant.  It's excessive force without a play for the ball.  Davis didn't use excessive force.  Guys wrap people up all the time.  It;s called an intentional foul.

the way they call it consistently for the last few years is if the guy goes for the ball or not. Excessive force makes it a flagrant 2.
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