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Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2010, 02:43:01 PM »

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I actually think this trade would be decent.

Nelson, Wade, Pietrus, Bosh, Gortat.


Duhon, Carter, Lebron, Lewis, Howard.


I don’t this this is a bad deal at all. AND i think The Heat would be better.
I don't think the Heat would be better, not in the short or long term.

The Magic would be ridiculously better though. They'd just need to start JJ Redick to see if he can snap out of his shooting funk. If/When he did they'd be set.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2010, 04:12:50 PM »

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The Magic make out like bandits in this trade, and Miami is worse for it.

There is no bundle of guys you can throw at Miami to equal LeBron. You've got to build the trade around multiple all-stars or an All-NBA player with pieces to even come close to his value.

I'm talking LeBron for Carmelo+Nene+Kenyon Martin (I know the salaries don't work, and the packages don't mesh w what the Heat need). That's the level of talent that needs to be considered. If LeBron was demanding a trade, or threatening to leave via free agency after the season, than it is different, but if you have him under contract for the next 5 seasons, its going to cost big.
  I think you were right about Bron. Not anymore his value is going to continue to plummet as more people found out what a dirtbag this guy reaaly is. The biggest cancer in the leuge right now. Premadonna, spoiled, no good rotten person that the world has created.  It's everyone's fault that served him like a master since he was twelve. No father. No dicipline. I would never want him as a Celtic.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2010, 04:20:53 PM »

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The Magic make out like bandits in this trade, and Miami is worse for it.

There is no bundle of guys you can throw at Miami to equal LeBron. You've got to build the trade around multiple all-stars or an All-NBA player with pieces to even come close to his value.

I'm talking LeBron for Carmelo+Nene+Kenyon Martin (I know the salaries don't work, and the packages don't mesh w what the Heat need). That's the level of talent that needs to be considered. If LeBron was demanding a trade, or threatening to leave via free agency after the season, than it is different, but if you have him under contract for the next 5 seasons, its going to cost big.
  I think you were right about Bron. Not anymore his value is going to continue to plummet as more people found out what a dirtbag this guy reaaly is. The biggest cancer in the leuge right now. Premadonna, spoiled, no good rotten person that the world has created.  It's everyone's fault that served him like a master since he was twelve. No father. No dicipline. I would never want him as a Celtic.

Yeah, I strongly disagree with this.  I think every single team in the league would take him in a second.  His recent missteps have been very minor in the grand scheme of things and have not affected his value one iota. 

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2010, 04:35:12 PM »

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The Magic make out like bandits in this trade, and Miami is worse for it.

There is no bundle of guys you can throw at Miami to equal LeBron. You've got to build the trade around multiple all-stars or an All-NBA player with pieces to even come close to his value.

I'm talking LeBron for Carmelo+Nene+Kenyon Martin (I know the salaries don't work, and the packages don't mesh w what the Heat need). That's the level of talent that needs to be considered. If LeBron was demanding a trade, or threatening to leave via free agency after the season, than it is different, but if you have him under contract for the next 5 seasons, its going to cost big.
  I think you were right about Bron. Not anymore his value is going to continue to plummet as more people found out what a dirtbag this guy reaaly is. The biggest cancer in the leuge right now. Premadonna, spoiled, no good rotten person that the world has created.  It's everyone's fault that served him like a master since he was twelve. No father. No dicipline. I would never want him as a Celtic.

Yeah, I strongly disagree with this.  I think every single team in the league would take him in a second.  His recent missteps have been very minor in the grand scheme of things and have not affected his value one iota. 

co sign

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2010, 04:59:37 PM »

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Celtics would NOT trade Rondo for LeBron if it were possible. Even if they had a healthy Delonte.
"It's not how you play the game. It's whether you win or lose--that's my motto." -Larry Bird

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2010, 05:09:41 PM »

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Celtics would NOT trade Rondo for LeBron if it were possible. Even if they had a healthy Delonte.
Yes they would. If they had the chance and passed I'd ask for ownership to fire Danny.

If I were Danny and it worked under the cap rules (and for some reason was on the table) I'd trade Rodo and Pierce for LeBron.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2010, 05:14:56 PM »

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Celtics would NOT trade Rondo for LeBron if it were possible. Even if they had a healthy Delonte.
Yes they would. If they had the chance and passed I'd ask for ownership to fire Danny.

If I were Danny and it worked under the cap rules (and for some reason was on the table) I'd trade Rodo and Pierce for LeBron.


In a heartbeat.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2010, 05:31:18 PM »

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how bout lebron for rondo, baby and ray?? who says no?

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2010, 05:34:45 PM »

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He's the most talented player in the world but he's not a winner. He has a horrible team-attitude. Look how he lorded over his old coaches.

Celtics would not do that. Trust me. He does not have a Celtic heart.

He's a jerk. He just doesn't get it.
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Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2010, 05:43:06 PM »

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how bout lebron for rondo, baby and ray?? who says no?
The Heat.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2010, 07:04:18 PM »

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He's the most talented player in the world but he's not a winner. He has a horrible team-attitude. Look how he lorded over his old coaches.

Celtics would not do that. Trust me. He does not have a Celtic heart.

He's a jerk. He just doesn't get it.


And they said Pierce was a selfish me first player.


KG was a guy that was afraid to take over an important game and incapable of winning the big games. 




As we now know, perceptions can and often are wrong.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2010, 07:59:06 PM »

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He's the most talented player in the world but he's not a winner. He has a horrible team-attitude. Look how he lorded over his old coaches.

Celtics would not do that. Trust me. He does not have a Celtic heart.

He's a jerk. He just doesn't get it.

  Plenty of great players have gotten coaches that they didn't like fired.

  Were KG or Ray winners before they came to Boston?

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2010, 08:14:06 PM »

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He's the most talented player in the world but he's not a winner. He has a horrible team-attitude. Look how he lorded over his old coaches.

Celtics would not do that. Trust me. He does not have a Celtic heart.

He's a jerk. He just doesn't get it.

  Plenty of great players have gotten coaches that they didn't like fired.

  Were KG or Ray winners before they came to Boston?


Was Pierce?


Lebron as his teams only star took his team further then the Celtics three stars could without each other.

Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2010, 09:20:59 PM »

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i have a hard time understanding how responses actually occur to a post like this in the first place. come on, man.....
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Re: Nelson, Gortat, and Pietrus for LeBron
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2010, 09:31:35 PM »

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LeBron isn't worthy to wear the green.  He is epitome of Anti-Celtic.  One can talk how he is a great stat machine and the like.  But he is a loser, selfish and hurts his teams with over dribbling.

He would hurt any team he plays on because he doesn't play team ball.  Dude is all about stats.   I am beginning to wonder if he will ever win one.   He lacks the killer instinct.  If he gets his stats he is cool.

I think this trade would help MIA.   Getting read of the team cancer would help them.  It would shore up their interior, free up their ball movement and give them a PG.  However, this would hurt the Magic.   I am afraid LeBron is damaging his brand league wide.   GMs wowed by his talent  have to have second thoughts about his personality issues.   If Riley thought he could win with that team he would fire Spoelstra.  He knows folks that LeBron would pawn him as well.