In season trade targets?

[Chris]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

[pearljammer10]

I know that this trade, is fanciful and not likely, but it could happen if the 76ers have lost faith in Evan Turner? This trade can take place on December 15th and is cleared on RealGM' Trade Checker.

To Philadelphia:   Jermaine O’Neil (C)        ($ 5.8m/2 yrs.)
                   Marquis Daniels (G/F)      ($ 2.3m/1 yr.)
                   Nate Robinson (G)          ($ 4.2m/2 yrs.)

To Boston:         Andres Nocioci (F)         ($ 6.8m/2 yrs.)
                   Evan Turner* (G)           ($ 4.1m/2 yrs)
                   

       -----------------------------------------------

                  BOSTON CELTICS

F- Paul Pierce - Andres Nocioci - Stephane Lasme+
F- Kevin Garnett - Glen Davis - Luke Harangody**
C- (Kendrick Perkins) - Shaquille O'Neal+ - Semih Erden 
G- Rajon Rondo - Delonte West+ - Avery Bradley*
G- Ray Allen - Evan Turner* -
         Playtoff Signing: Rasheed Wallace (F/C)

Why for Celtics: Gives the C's a Large back up for Pierce and
the eventual replacement for Ray Allen. I believe that the 76ers would be willing to trade Turner is because they seem to
have doubt that he will get up to speed in the NBA?

Why for 76ers: This give them a legitimate Center and solid back ups for TYoung and JHoliday. We may have to give them a Draft choice or two?

   + Free Agent Signing.     
   * 1st Round Draft Choice.     
  ** 2nd Round Draft Choice.


   This not working, I would suggest a trade for James Posey
for Marquis Daniels and Jermaine O'Neal? I think the Pacers would go for this to get rid of Posey's large contract and it would fit with Ainge' two year salary dump plan?

1. We aren't getting Evan Turner
2. The Sixers aren't going to lose faith in a rookie in his first year.
3. We aren't getting Evan Turner
4. The Sixers would never trade a rookie with a ton of potential in the division.
5. We aren't getting Evan Turner.

Talk about a ridiculous post. One of the most ridiculous ones I have ever seen on these forums.

co-sign.

it is unfortunate that we can't take away Tommy Points anymore... I mean really, Evan Turner?...Evan Turner?... You are talking about the kid who was picked 2nd in this years NBA draft right? Unreal.

[Chris]

OK, enough.  Dispute someones post and explain why you don't agree, but there is no need to attack it like that. 

[snively]

I'd add Jamario Moon to the list.  He's the athletic, plus rebounding, help defending 3 that we've always wanted (Brandon Wallace, Tony Gaffney, Stephane Lasme) but never kept because of their inability to hit Js, especially 3s.  If Gody or Erden look capable of usurping Baby's role (or Perk makes a quick return) then I could see Baby for Moon at the deadline.

JR Smith has been brought up already, but he's probably the best catch out there.  The team's biggest weakness remains it's over-reliance on Ray and Pierce for go-to scoring.  As good as Delonte is, he can't masquerade as either when one is having an off-night.  JR Smith could. 

Nate Robinson and Glen Davis for JR and Renaldo Balkman might get it done.

[Eddie20]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

[Chris]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

Good call.  I was really only thinking big, but Delfino (or Moon) could be very good targets, and may be more realistic. 

[Eddie20]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

Good call.  I was really only thinking big, but Delfino (or Moon) could be very good targets, and may be more realistic. 

I've always loved Delfino's game. I actually think he's a much better fit for our system than Rudy Fernandez and other more popular players are. He can create his own shot, is a good passer, and a good shooter. He has a solid all around skill-set and a real good feel for the game. I would love a Baby for Delfino mid-season move especially if Perk's rehab goes well and we're also able to sign Sheed as insurance/5th big for our playoff run. The Bucks throw in a future 1st and it's a done deal!

There is a bright side to the Perk injury. It allowed us to sign Shaq, as I doubt that would've occurred if Perk were healthy. This will also allow Baby to be showcased during the first half of the year. A healthy Perk would command more minutes than an older Shaq and the extra minutes will only help Davis' trade value. Davis is solid, but I'm fairly certain he'll command more money on the open market than we're willing to offer. I

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I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

The bucks have some attractive candidates, but they're deep at the 4 too. we'd have to find something they want.

another option -- afflalo?

[Chris]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

Good call.  I was really only thinking big, but Delfino (or Moon) could be very good targets, and may be more realistic. 

I've always loved Delfino's game. I actually think he's a much better fit for our system than Rudy Fernandez and other more popular players are. He can create his own shot, is a good passer, and a good shooter. He has a solid all around skill-set and a real good feel for the game. I would love a Baby for Delfino mid-season move especially if Perk's rehab goes well and we're also able to sign Sheed as insurance/5th big for our playoff run. The Bucks throw in a future 1st and it's a done deal!

There is a bright side to the Perk injury. It allowed us to sign Shaq, as I doubt that would've occurred if Perk were healthy. This will also allow Baby to be showcased during the first half of the year. A healthy Perk would command more minutes than an older Shaq and the extra minutes will only help Davis' trade value. Davis is solid, but I'm fairly certain he'll command more money on the open market than we're willing to offer. I

Well, I think you are going a bit overboard to think Sheed is going to come back, or that Milwaukee would throw in a first rounder.  Davis for Delfino is fair value straight up.  

But the nice thing about Delfino is that he can cover perimeter PF's, much like Posey did.  Plus, by that time Harangody might be a servicable enough player to give them some added depth.

[Chris]

The bucks have some attractive candidates, but they're deep at the 4 too. we'd have to find something they want.

another option -- afflalo?

Afflalo is one of my favorite young role players in the league, but I don't think he is available.  I think he is actually the biggest reason JR Smith could be had. 

[Eddie20]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

Good call.  I was really only thinking big, but Delfino (or Moon) could be very good targets, and may be more realistic. 

I've always loved Delfino's game. I actually think he's a much better fit for our system than Rudy Fernandez and other more popular players are. He can create his own shot, is a good passer, and a good shooter. He has a solid all around skill-set and a real good feel for the game. I would love a Baby for Delfino mid-season move especially if Perk's rehab goes well and we're also able to sign Sheed as insurance/5th big for our playoff run. The Bucks throw in a future 1st and it's a done deal!

There is a bright side to the Perk injury. It allowed us to sign Shaq, as I doubt that would've occurred if Perk were healthy. This will also allow Baby to be showcased during the first half of the year. A healthy Perk would command more minutes than an older Shaq and the extra minutes will only help Davis' trade value. Davis is solid, but I'm fairly certain he'll command more money on the open market than we're willing to offer. I

Well, I think you are going a bit overboard to think Sheed is going to come back, or that Milwaukee would throw in a first rounder.  Davis for Delfino is fair value straight up.  

But the nice thing about Delfino is that he can cover perimeter PF's, much like Posey did.  Plus, by that time Harangody might be a servicable enough player to give them some added depth.

It's fair in terms of talent, but I think the Bucks would be willing to part with a future first if they're able land Davis. It's much more difficult to find a big than it is a wing.

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The bucks have some attractive candidates, but they're deep at the 4 too. we'd have to find something they want.

another option -- afflalo?

Afflalo is one of my favorite young role players in the league, but I don't think he is available.  I think he is actually the biggest reason JR Smith could be had. 

indeed. but the nuggets are in major need of size. baby or semih could be more interesting to them than other teams.

bucks have no use for baby --  mbah a moute, ilyasova, gooden, brockman, gallon, etc etc....

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I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

The guys I see as prime targets for mid-season trades would be:

Battier - If some of the younger wings step up, or the team falls apart a bit, they could move him in a deal that brings back Perk.  Since this may be Yao's last year with them (or in the league), they may be looking for his replacement, and the hometown (kind of) boy could be a target for them.

JR Smith - It is tough to guess his value, since he is so talented, but so erratic, and on a reasonable contract.  But if he keeps clashing with coaches, he could be a realistic target.

Marvin Williams - Again, he would likely cost the C's Perk, but it could be an intersting trade for both teams, if it looks like the C's are not going to be able to resign Perk to a reasonable deal, and he comes back healthy.

Nocioni - Let's be clear about one thing...they are not giving up one of their talented young guys just to get him off the books.  He just has one more guaranteed year after this, and it may be wiped out by the lockout anyways.  But the C's could certainly get him for spare parts if they wanted him... and if they did include someone like Perk, there is a possibility they could throw in one of their lesser prospects.

Carlos Delfino. The Bucks have good depth at the wing (Maggette, Salmons, Redd, Douglas-Roberts), but are weak at the 4/5. Delfino also has a 2 yr contract that will be perfect for our 2 yr plan.

 

Good call.  I was really only thinking big, but Delfino (or Moon) could be very good targets, and may be more realistic. 

I've always loved Delfino's game. I actually think he's a much better fit for our system than Rudy Fernandez and other more popular players are. He can create his own shot, is a good passer, and a good shooter. He has a solid all around skill-set and a real good feel for the game. I would love a Baby for Delfino mid-season move especially if Perk's rehab goes well and we're also able to sign Sheed as insurance/5th big for our playoff run. The Bucks throw in a future 1st and it's a done deal!

There is a bright side to the Perk injury. It allowed us to sign Shaq, as I doubt that would've occurred if Perk were healthy. This will also allow Baby to be showcased during the first half of the year. A healthy Perk would command more minutes than an older Shaq and the extra minutes will only help Davis' trade value. Davis is solid, but I'm fairly certain he'll command more money on the open market than we're willing to offer. I

Well, I think you are going a bit overboard to think Sheed is going to come back, or that Milwaukee would throw in a first rounder.  Davis for Delfino is fair value straight up.  

But the nice thing about Delfino is that he can cover perimeter PF's, much like Posey did.  Plus, by that time Harangody might be a servicable enough player to give them some added depth.

It's fair in terms of talent, but I think the Bucks would be willing to part with a future first if they're able land Davis. It's much more difficult to find a big than it is a wing.

no chance. they have no need for baby.

[Eddie20]

The bucks have some attractive candidates, but they're deep at the 4 too. we'd have to find something they want.

another option -- afflalo?

Afflalo is one of my favorite young role players in the league, but I don't think he is available.  I think he is actually the biggest reason JR Smith could be had. 

indeed. but the nuggets are in major need of size. baby or semih could be more interesting to them than other teams.

bucks have no use for baby --  mbah a moute, ilyasova, gooden, brockman, gallon, etc etc....

Luc is more of a 3 than a 4. Ilyasova is nice, but he lacks strength. Gooden is average and not better than Baby. Brockman is marginal. And Gallon will probably be NBDL bound.

I think the Bucks have much more use for Davis than they do for Delfino with Redd, Maggette, Douglas-Roberts, Salmons, and Luc.

[indeedproceed]

I wonder if Phily might consider letting go of Thaddeus Young later in the year + how much they'd be asking for in return.

I think its very unlikely.  I think he is a guy they want to build around, along with Turner and Holliday. 

I think they're going to move Young, possibly in an attempt to move Brand too. Young is an okay player without a position, much like Travis Outlaw (but not as good IMO), or even Glen Davis.