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Which team is the best Team of the Future?

Portland (Rubio, Turner, Brook Lopez, Derrick Favors)
3 (30%)
Detroit (John Wall, Al Jefferson, Roy Hibbert, lots of young pieces)
2 (20%)
Golden State (Chris Paul, Kevin Martin, Al-Farouq Aminu, Tiago Splitter, Hasheem Thabeet)
4 (40%)
Spurs (Chris Bosh, Devin Harris, James Harden, Serge Ibaka, Chris Douglas Roberts)
0 (0%)
Memphis (Tyreke Evans, Kevin Love, Andray Blatche, Corey Brewer)
1 (10%)
Oklahoma City (Darren Collison, Demar Derozen, Mareese Speights)
0 (0%)

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Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 01:48:38 PM »

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Superstar for another 6-8 years: LeBron James
Guaranteed to be an above average player for the next 10 years: Brandon Jennings, Joakim Noah
Might be something really special, but already a good role player: Ersan Ilyasova
30 years old or under and a reliable role player: Tony Allen, Mike Miller
Rookies we don't know anything about: Landry Fields, Gani Lawal, Omer Asik

I dunno....here today, and here tomorrow???

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Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2010, 02:01:46 PM »

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I have some pups, not not enough to field a complete team of the future.

I could field a starting five of Mayo, Afflalo, Granger, Jerebko, and Hickson. Calathes down the line. Way down the line.
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Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 02:15:31 PM »

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Portland:

Ricky Rubio / Goran Dragic
Evan Turner
Thadeus Young
Derrick Favors / Spencer Haweso
Brook Lopez

I have huge expectations for Favors & Rubio, so I'm biased on this one.

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 03:30:15 PM »

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Portland:

Ricky Rubio / Goran Dragic
Evan Turner
Thadeus Young
Derrick Favors / Spencer Haweso
Brook Lopez

I have huge expectations for Favors & Rubio, so I'm biased on this one.

Turner's the one I really like but I do agree that's a great team of the future to consider.


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Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 03:30:27 PM »

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I think I've pretty much got this locked up.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 03:35:19 PM »

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Portland:

Ricky Rubio / Goran Dragic
Evan Turner
Thadeus Young
Derrick Favors / Spencer Haweso
Brook Lopez

I have huge expectations for Favors & Rubio, so I'm biased on this one.


Turner's the one I really like but I do agree that's a great team of the future to consider.

I like Turner, but not nearly as much as most. I got him pegged as a poor man's Brandon Roy. Out of this year's rookie class I'd guess that Wall, Favors, Cousins & Monroe all have better careers.

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 03:39:22 PM »

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Portland:

Ricky Rubio / Goran Dragic
Evan Turner
Thadeus Young
Derrick Favors / Spencer Haweso
Brook Lopez

I have huge expectations for Favors & Rubio, so I'm biased on this one.


Turner's the one I really like but I do agree that's a great team of the future to consider.

I like Turner, but not nearly as much as most. I got him pegged as a poor man's Brandon Roy. Out of this year's rookie class I'd guess that Wall, Favors, Cousins & Monroe all have better careers.


The draft is over, you won. You can stop hyping Greg Monroe. ;D

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2010, 03:43:27 PM »

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Ha. The biggest relief of the draft is being able to honestly talk about some of the guys I drafted who I'm really high on this season w/o coming off like I'm promoting my team.

Terrence Williams & Greg Monroe will have breakout seasons in my opinion

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2010, 04:42:16 PM »

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Ha. The biggest relief of the draft is being able to honestly talk about some of the guys I drafted who I'm really high on this season w/o coming off like I'm promoting my team.

Terrence Williams & Greg Monroe will have breakout seasons in my opinion
I'm looking forward to seeing Greg Monroe play for the Pistons this season. I think Big Ben will be a good mentor for him. Help him out defensively and on the glass.

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2010, 05:09:12 PM »

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Monroe is far from "the answer" for Detroit, anything short of an atomic bomb isn't sufficient. But a big man with his skillset can certainly help them, as long as they can commit to working their offense through him.

I see win increase of 7-10 out of the Pistons b/c of it

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2010, 05:53:08 PM »

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My expectations are somewhat low for Monroe as a rookie. I am thinking below average but serviceable defense and rebounding + 14/15ppg on a solid TS% + very good passing.

A solid contributor but not a difference maker.

The type of contribution you'd expect to receive from a good to very good role player making $5-6 million. 

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I wonder if he'll be better off long term as a power forward.

I haven't seen enough of him to be sure ... but he seems a little small as a center + lacks explosiveness / engine to make up for it. He looks like he might be limited athletically at the next level. I haven't seen enough of him to be sure but I am concerned.

He might be better off at the four where he'd have a size advantage most nights.

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Detroit should be a 40-45 win team if their coach gets it together ... but I am not optimistic about that.

Some better health injury wise should allow them to be a 34-37 win team though.

They didn't replace Kwame Brown. I didn't like that. Someone like Kwame would have been a valuable backup center. A defensive presence when Big Ben sits. Their big man rotation is now very thin on defensive play + legitimate size. They should have kept Kwame. 

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2010, 06:01:51 PM »

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My expectations are somewhat low for Monroe as a rookie. I am thinking below average but serviceable defense and rebounding + 14/15ppg on a solid TS% + very good passing.

A solid contributor but not a difference maker.

The type of contribution you'd expect to receive from a good to very good role player making $5-6 million. 

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I wonder if he'll be better off long term as a power forward.

I haven't seen enough of him to be sure ... but he seems a little small as a center + lacks explosiveness / engine to make up for it. He looks like he might be limited athletically at the next level. I haven't seen enough of him to be sure but I am concerned.

He might be better off at the four where he'd have a size advantage most nights.

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Detroit should be a 40-45 win team if their coach gets it together ... but I am not optimistic about that.

Some better health injury wise should allow them to be a 34-37 win team though.

They didn't replace Kwame Brown. I didn't like that. Someone like Kwame would have been a valuable backup center. A defensive presence when Big Ben sits. Their big man rotation is now very thin on defensive play + legitimate size. They should have kept Kwame. 

Kuester should have, finally, a fully healthy roster to work with this year. That will be huge for them.

I still think they have an overabundance of guards (Stuckey, Bynum, Gordon, Rip, and now McGrady), and not enough legit size. I suspect they will probably play Maxiell at C, perhaps even Villanueva. [Wilcox has never seized an opportunity to grab meaningful minutes with the Pistons; I doubt he will this coming season either.]

We'll have to see about Monroe. Could he play C if paired with a hustler/banger at the PF? A guy like Jerebko or Maxiell? Or perhaps alongside Wallace?
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Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2010, 06:04:43 PM »

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My expectations are somewhat low for Monroe as a rookie. I am thinking below average but serviceable defense and rebounding + 14/15ppg on a solid TS% + very good passing.

A solid contributor but not a difference maker.

The type of contribution you'd expect to receive from a good to very good role player making $5-6 million. 

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I wonder if he'll be better off long term as a power forward.

I haven't seen enough of him to be sure ... but he seems a little small as a center + lacks explosiveness / engine to make up for it. He looks like he might be limited athletically at the next level. I haven't seen enough of him to be sure but I am concerned.

He might be better off at the four where he'd have a size advantage most nights.

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Detroit should be a 40-45 win team if their coach gets it together ... but I am not optimistic about that.

Some better health injury wise should allow them to be a 34-37 win team though.

They didn't replace Kwame Brown. I didn't like that. Someone like Kwame would have been a valuable backup center. A defensive presence when Big Ben sits. Their big man rotation is now very thin on defensive play + legitimate size. They should have kept Kwame. 
I don't see Greg Monroe scoring 14-15 PPG next year as a rookie. Not anywhere near that. Try half that, tops.

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2010, 06:21:39 PM »

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My expectations are somewhat low for Monroe as a rookie. I am thinking below average but serviceable defense and rebounding + 14/15ppg on a solid TS% + very good passing.

A solid contributor but not a difference maker.

The type of contribution you'd expect to receive from a good to very good role player making $5-6 million. 

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I wonder if he'll be better off long term as a power forward.

I haven't seen enough of him to be sure ... but he seems a little small as a center + lacks explosiveness / engine to make up for it. He looks like he might be limited athletically at the next level. I haven't seen enough of him to be sure but I am concerned.

He might be better off at the four where he'd have a size advantage most nights.

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Detroit should be a 40-45 win team if their coach gets it together ... but I am not optimistic about that.

Some better health injury wise should allow them to be a 34-37 win team though.

They didn't replace Kwame Brown. I didn't like that. Someone like Kwame would have been a valuable backup center. A defensive presence when Big Ben sits. Their big man rotation is now very thin on defensive play + legitimate size. They should have kept Kwame. 

Kuester should have, finally, a fully healthy roster to work with this year. That will be huge for them.

I still think they have an overabundance of guards (Stuckey, Bynum, Gordon, Rip, and now McGrady), and not enough legit size. I suspect they will probably play Maxiell at C, perhaps even Villanueva. [Wilcox has never seized an opportunity to grab meaningful minutes with the Pistons; I doubt he will this coming season either.]

We'll have to see about Monroe. Could he play C if paired with a hustler/banger at the PF? A guy like Jerebko or Maxiell? Or perhaps alongside Wallace?
Jerebko is a lot like Ersan Ilyasova defensively only with less rebounding than Ersan and none of the offensive game. Jonas is a borderline rotation player at this point in his career.

Unless he makes a major improvement defensively, he is always going to be limited player as a power forward. And unless he makes major progress offensively, Jerebko is going to be limited minutes wise as a small forward.

He is an excellent 10th-12th man but he shouldn't be counted on for more than that without substantial improvement.

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Jerebko doesn't have the size to be a banger at the four.

He does have a nice physical presence as a small forward though. A good option for battling with those power threes like Carmelo Anthony.

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Charlie Villanueva is a train wreck as a center. He is an abomination in man-to-man defense and gets lost with shocking frequency in team defense scenarios. He costs his team a huge number of points defensively.

The Pistons aren't good enough defensively elsewhere to live with Villanueva's defense as center. Nor or they good enough offensively or on the glass.

He needs to be a PF only. SF is a better option than C.

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Jason Maxiell is their best option as a backup C ... unfortunately.

Ideally alongside Monroe but more likely alongside Villanueva in that second unit.

I don't see Greg Monroe scoring 14-15 PPG next year as a rookie. Not anywhere near that. Try half that, tops.
It depends on minutes, touches and shot attempts.

That Detroit roster as weak as it is in the frontcourt ... I would expect Monroe to play 31-34 minutes a night right away and for a lot of his minutes to come alongside Ben Wallace.

With his passing ability and a well-rounded offensive game, I think he gets enough time on the ball + shot attempts to score around 14ppg.

On a team with more talent in the frontcourt, I wouldn't expect Monroe to play as much. Around 20mpg and only 8-9ppg + 4.5rpg.

Re: CB Draft Team of the Future (Nomination Phase)
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2010, 06:55:27 PM »

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Well, my Detroit, team of the future, is not weak in the frontcourt. 


It just needs a little more time to improve.