Avery Bradley; how good can this guy be?

[bucknersrevenge]

Yeah, I've thought of that. If the guy is apparently a "lock down defender at the point with 6'3" height, can shoot and be at least a "decent" distributor with starter quality, you eventually will have to trade either him or Rondo to help bolster some other spot on the roster rather than using him as a back up.

In this context I was more using "real deal" more along the lines of how Delonte is the real deal as far as fitting into the NBA as a solid bench guy / occasional starter...

If Bradley turns out to be the real deal at a much higher, starting level we are in even better shape. 

So, how would you see Bradley fitting in if he ultimately projects to be a combo guard who is a much better SG than Delonte West but not as good of a PG as Delonte West?

The way Doc seems to run the team, if Bradley picks up defensive rotations, I expect him to be given a shot to win playing time at SG while West serves his suspension.  Then, regardless of how well he does (unless he plays so well that convinces people on this board that he really is the SG of the future), his playing time will be pulled back, including some infuriating DNP-Coach's decision stat lines.  Once West's role in the rotation is established, then Bradley might be re-added to the mix.

Are we putting the cart before the horse here regarding Delonte? Doesn't he still have to MAKE this team. IMO Bradley is already better defensively than West EVER was or will be and that was a major issue with Delonte his first go around along with the fact that his right appendage was clearly for show and not to be actually used.

[Celtics18]

Yeah, I've thought of that. If the guy is apparently a "lock down defender at the point with 6'3" height, can shoot and be at least a "decent" distributor with starter quality, you eventually will have to trade either him or Rondo to help bolster some other spot on the roster rather than using him as a back up.

In this context I was more using "real deal" more along the lines of how Delonte is the real deal as far as fitting into the NBA as a solid bench guy / occasional starter...

If Bradley turns out to be the real deal at a much higher, starting level we are in even better shape. 

So, how would you see Bradley fitting in if he ultimately projects to be a combo guard who is a much better SG than Delonte West but not as good of a PG as Delonte West?

The way Doc seems to run the team, if Bradley picks up defensive rotations, I expect him to be given a shot to win playing time at SG while West serves his suspension.  Then, regardless of how well he does (unless he plays so well that convinces people on this board that he really is the SG of the future), his playing time will be pulled back, including some infuriating DNP-Coach's decision stat lines.  Once West's role in the rotation is established, then Bradley might be re-added to the mix.

Are we putting the cart before the horse here regarding Delonte? Doesn't he still have to MAKE this team. IMO Bradley is already better defensively than West EVER was or will be and that was a major issue with Delonte his first go around along with the fact that his right appendage was clearly for show and not to be actually used.

This last post brought up a pet peeve of mine, as a south paw.  Here it is:  Lefties always get a hard time when they can't finish with their right hands.  However, there are countless righties who can't finish with their left.  They don't seem to get any flack about it.  It's only mentioned when a righty happens to be adequate with his left hand.  Then, of course, we ooh and aah and marvel over him.

Thank you,

The Council for Fair and Equitable Treatment of Left Handers

[hardlyyardley]

Liked his game all year, but, ironically after he was drafted and all this talk began as a lock down defender, one of the basketball stations showed the tournament game against Wake Forest and he was guarding the man who faked him out of his jock and hit the game winner at the end of the game

[greenhead85]

Avery Bradley has the tools for the NBA though height, which may not really be his ultimate downside, might be a little issue especially if he takes over the SG spot.

Man,everytime I see his face and his form close up from pics in the internet, he exudes with so much of "X" factors.

He seems to possess a killer instinct which we may really be wanting from a player. I hope this is so.

[jr_3421]

I can find the article but one thing that stood out about AB during his workouts is that his teams almost never lost, no matter who he was playing with. Kid's a winner.

[billysan]

For everyone who keeps pointing out that 'Height' may limit Avery Bradley as an NBA SG, I would remind all that Tony Allen is under 6'3" barefoot. I think the actual measurement was 6'2" and 3/4 with a measure of 6'4" in shoes.

The point is that a 'long', athletic and strong guy can compensate somewhat for a lack of height. Tony was/is considered an excellent defender of NBA SG and PG.

Rajon Rondo is another prime example.

Avery Bradley has the athletic ablity and smarts be a prime time defender of NBA PG and SG.

[snively]

For everyone who keeps pointing out that 'Height' may limit Avery Bradley as an NBA SG, I would remind all that Tony Allen is under 6'3" barefoot. I think the actual measurement was 6'2" and 3/4 with a measure of 6'4" in shoes.

The point is that a 'long', athletic and strong guy can compensate somewhat for a lack of height. Tony was/is considered an excellent defender of NBA SG and PG.

Rajon Rondo is another prime example.

Avery Bradley has the athletic ablity and smarts be a prime time defender of NBA PG and SG.

TA actually measured out at 6'3.5 barefoot.  That puts him close to 6'5 in a typical NBA shoe.  6'9 wingspan, 8'6 standing reach and really strong to boot. 

Bradley measured out at 6'2 barefoot and 6'3.25 in shoes, with a 6'7.25 wingspan and a 8'2.5 standing reach. 

[LooseCannon]

Another comparison: DraftExpress says that Delonte West is 6'1.5" without shoes, 6'2.75 with, 6'6" wingspan, 8'3.5" standing reach

[guava_wrench]

I can find the article but one thing that stood out about AB during his workouts is that his teams almost never lost, no matter who he was playing with. Kid's a winner.

Isn't that the case with half the guys drafted?

[jr_3421]

I can find the article but one thing that stood out about AB during his workouts is that his teams almost never lost, no matter who he was playing with. Kid's a winner.

Isn't that the case with half the guys drafted?

Well the fact that this observer made a point to report this makes me think that is not the case.

[slamtheking]

Another comparison: DraftExpress says that Delonte West is 6'1.5" without shoes, 6'2.75 with, 6'6" wingspan, 8'3.5" standing reach

If Bradley measured out at 6'2 barefoot and 6'3.25 in shoes, with a 6'7.25 wingspan and a 8'2.5 standing reach then Delonte's measurements don't make sense.  how can Delonte be shorter with a shorter wingspan and yet have a higher standing reach?

Are they standing on their toes for that standing reach?  if so Delonte's got some big feet to make up that much of a measurement difference. 

But then again, you know what they say about guys with big feet and after all, he was able to pick up Lebron's mom 

[LooseCannon]

You're supposed to stand flat-footed for standing reach.  Some factors that can affect it are shoulder width, neck length, and flexibility.

[GreenFaith1819]

I think his ceiling is Joe Dumars, just like it was said on here before. Defensive stopper at the 1 and 2, with a strong mid-range game, excellent of of catch & shoot situations, average playmaking ability, who could eventually move his range to the outside.

I could see this kid putting up 16-4-2 a game with strong defense. (that’s Joey D)

I agree. I can see AB potentially becoming like Joe Dumars, which would be a great deal for us.

[libermaniac]

If Bradley measured out at 6'2 barefoot and 6'3.25 in shoes, with a 6'7.25 wingspan and a 8'2.5 standing reach then Delonte's measurements don't make sense.  how can Delonte be shorter with a shorter wingspan and yet have a higher standing reach?

Theoretically, Avery could have a longer neck, so his arms are starting lower down before he reaches up.  Not sure that's the case, but just sayin ...

[LilRip]

lol@the conversations about neck length and standing reach.

i'm intrigued with Bradley. Hopefully he can really do well for us in the future. I'm not holding my breath on seeing him play meaningful minutes for us this season (and even next) though.

quick thought: If AB turns to be one of those guys who can play as a legit starter, and as someone has said that it'd be a waste if he was limited to a backup PG role (behind an all-star PG to boot)... would you guys be open to trading either Rondo [or Bradley] down the road in order get a star-caliber player in another position? Say, Brandon Roy or Dwight Howard or something?



- LilRip