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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2010, 02:21:56 PM »

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 When I bring in Yi, he and KG will draw Yao and Pau out of the paint.  Utah, who do you have to hit clutch shots?  

This is where you lose me. No sentence bragging about your team should begin " When I bring in Yi". Also, it's not like PAu had a difficult time guarding KG.
What are you talking about?  I can't state that Yi and KG space the court?

I don't really understand all the Yi hate.  He's a very promising young player.

What Yi gives you in spacing he kills you in his inability to guard or rebound with either of Utah's main bigs.
Oh no.  One of my bench players has a flaw.  That's hard to find in this league.

You think I'm scared of Robin Lopez?
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2010, 02:26:07 PM »

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 When I bring in Yi, he and KG will draw Yao and Pau out of the paint.  Utah, who do you have to hit clutch shots?  

This is where you lose me. No sentence bragging about your team should begin " When I bring in Yi". Also, it's not like PAu had a difficult time guarding KG.
What are you talking about?  I can't state that Yi and KG space the court?

I don't really understand all the Yi hate.  He's a very promising young player.

What Yi gives you in spacing he kills you in his inability to guard or rebound with either of Utah's main bigs.
Oh no.  One of my bench players has a flaw.  That's hard to find in this league.

You think I'm scared of Robin Lopez?
You're faced with only two legit NBA big men against two of the best post players in the NBA.

Not only that but KG ( :'() got destroyed on the glass by Gasol in the real NBA and also had some foul trouble covering him. Any foul trouble for Garnett or Wallace is a disaster for you.

Even if all goes well you're still going to be giving up a ton of points and extra possessions because of that match up. I don't see how Billups and Richardson can compensate enough for that.

You drew one of two match ups that I think you can't win I'm afraid.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2010, 02:29:04 PM »

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 When I bring in Yi, he and KG will draw Yao and Pau out of the paint.  Utah, who do you have to hit clutch shots?  

This is where you lose me. No sentence bragging about your team should begin " When I bring in Yi". Also, it's not like PAu had a difficult time guarding KG.
What are you talking about?  I can't state that Yi and KG space the court?

I don't really understand all the Yi hate.  He's a very promising young player.

What Yi gives you in spacing he kills you in his inability to guard or rebound with either of Utah's main bigs.
Oh no.  One of my bench players has a flaw.  That's hard to find in this league.

You think I'm scared of Robin Lopez?


He was a difference maker for the Suns defensively in the playoffs for the Suns this past playoffs. 


In a 7 game series, size kills.  One of the main reason the Celtics lost game 6 and 7 was the sudden downsize in size when Perk was lost. 

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2010, 02:35:04 PM »

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 When I bring in Yi, he and KG will draw Yao and Pau out of the paint.  Utah, who do you have to hit clutch shots?  

This is where you lose me. No sentence bragging about your team should begin " When I bring in Yi". Also, it's not like PAu had a difficult time guarding KG.
What are you talking about?  I can't state that Yi and KG space the court?

I don't really understand all the Yi hate.  He's a very promising young player.

What Yi gives you in spacing he kills you in his inability to guard or rebound with either of Utah's main bigs.
Oh no.  One of my bench players has a flaw.  That's hard to find in this league.

You think I'm scared of Robin Lopez?


If you play Yi heavy minutes you should be.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2010, 02:36:00 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2010, 02:37:15 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.


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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2010, 02:38:15 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.

I like Duncan. 

Why is Mayo on the bench?

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2010, 02:39:44 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

I'll do it, but only if I can do it in an obnoxiously opinionated maner that'll include a lot of caps, and the phrase 'uh, newsflash' a lot.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2010, 02:40:18 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric
Denver have matchup advantages at the five and backup three while Houston have matchup advantages at the three and backup four.

Denver's superior perimeter defense gives them the stronger defensive outfit. Houston has more shot-creation capability and is the better offensive unit.

Very even battle ... seven game series.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2010, 02:42:27 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.

I like Duncan. 

Why is Mayo on the bench?

I like having Afflalo's defense in the starting lineup. He can guard either Westbrook or Thornton.

Mayo provides firepower off the bench. The minutes will be fairly evenly split between the two of them, though.
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2010, 02:44:19 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.

I like Duncan. 

Why is Mayo on the bench?

I like having Afflalo's defense in the starting lineup. He can guard either Westbrook or Thornton.

Mayo provides firepower off the bench. The minutes will be fairly evenly split between the two of them, though.


I would want that firepower in the starting lineup and run. 

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2010, 02:47:37 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.

I like Duncan. 

Why is Mayo on the bench?

I like having Afflalo's defense in the starting lineup. He can guard either Westbrook or Thornton.

Mayo provides firepower off the bench. The minutes will be fairly evenly split between the two of them, though.


I would want that firepower in the starting lineup and run. 

I agree.  Right now, on two teams that are fairly evenly matched, Denver is basically playing 5-on-4, since A.A. is so little of an offensive threat.  With Mayo, I think that puts Denver back on its heals a little.


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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2010, 02:48:03 PM »

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I suspect my esteemed colleague in Denver is busy these days.

Anyone care to pick up his standard and wave it for him?

The matchup:

PG - Russell Westbrook / Steve Blake / Daniel Gibson
SG - Marcus Thornton / Ronnie Brewer / [Childress]
SF - Trevor Ariza / Josh Childress
PF - Taj Gibson / Darrell Arthur
C - Tim Duncan / Darko Milicic / Aaron Gray

vs.

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: Arron Afflalo, O.J. Mayo
SF: Danny Granger, Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye, Trenton Hassell
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, [Jerebko]
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

Not sure who I'm taking yet in the series but I'm fairly certain its going 6-7 games.

I like Duncan.  

Why is Mayo on the bench?

I like having Afflalo's defense in the starting lineup. He can guard either Westbrook or Thornton.

Mayo provides firepower off the bench. The minutes will be fairly evenly split between the two of them, though.


I would want that firepower in the starting lineup and run.  

I think my starting lineup only requires a secondary jump shooting option, while Parker and Granger will do most of the scoring, with Diaw chipping in. A guy who doesn't need a lot of touches, but is an efficient scorer.

That's Afflalo. He posted an eFG last year of 56% on jumpers, compared to Mayo's eFG of 46.6%.

Also, AA shot 43% from 3 pt land last season (3 attempts per game). Mayo shot 38%, with 4.3 attempt a game.

Afflalo is not a deficient offensive player.
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2010, 03:12:10 PM »

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Sacramento vs LAL

I think the Lakers have an advantage at their starting two guard position while Sacramento have an advantage at their starting PF position and backup big man slots.

I think the point guard battle is fairly even between Rose and S.Curry. Rose being the more prolific scorer and better defender while Curry supplies more efficiency, shooting and playmaking.

The backup wings -- Q vs RJ and Garcia/Lee -- are fairly even. The Kings would have an advantage whenever Tracy McGrady plays but I'm assuming by the playoffs that the Lakers realize he's finished and have him glued to their bench.

The backup guards, Augustin vs Teague, another neutral battle. Augustin the superior shooter vs Teague the superior slasher. If Augustin gets back to where he was as a rookie, I'd give him a slight advantage. Then again, if Teague improves, he may claim it. For now, without knowing or truly expecting either outcome, I'm going to call it even.

The Lewis vs Prince matchup. Prince making slightly more in the non-scoring departments while Lewis provides a bit more scoring and more offensive efficiency. Largely equal, small advantage Sacramento.

LA Lakers

If I am LA, I am starting Bargnani and switching Tyson Chandler onto Boozer while giving Bargnani the Dampier assignment. Tyson Chandler has done a good job on Boozer several times in the past and Dampier is no problem for Bargs defensively.

That would open up the Lakers pick and roll game. An interior finisher in Tyson and a pick and pop shooter + floor spacer in Bargnani. That would help open things up for Steph Curry and Brandon Roy even further. Q-Rich and Tayshaun Prince supply solid perimeter shooting from the other wing spot.

The question then becomes, does Bargnani's added offensive punch allow LA to outplay Sacramento while these lineups are in the game? Or does his horribly inadequate team defense + very weak rebounding keep things even?

Anyways, then Sacramento plugs in Zach Randolph forcing Bargnani to guard a credible offensive threat. At that point, Bargnani gets cooked defensively in one-on-one + team defense situations + he gets out-rebounded badly (very badly). Sacramento also see a drop in their team defense and become increasingly vulnerable in transition and in the pick and roll.

Which brings me to another question, does Tyson Chandler's defense keep LA in the game at this point? With both teams scoring freely and often. Or does Sacramento's rebounding pound LA into submission?

Either way, it's all over whenever Tyson sits down because Sacramento will destroy their three (Beasley, Bargnani, Al Harrington) big men. The lack of an adequate defensive + rebounding big man to give Tyson a breather ends the Lakers postseason hopes.

Conclusion

Sacramento move on. LA steal a game when their offense is running high.

4-1 Kings win

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Western Conference
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2010, 03:15:47 PM »

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Sacramento vs LAL

I think the Lakers have an advantage at their starting two guard position while Sacramento have an advantage at their starting PF position and backup big man slots.

I think the point guard battle is fairly even between Rose and S.Curry. Rose being the more prolific scorer and better defender while Curry supplies more efficiency, shooting and playmaking.

The backup wings -- Q vs RJ and Garcia/Lee -- are fairly even. The Kings would have an advantage whenever Tracy McGrady plays but I'm assuming by the playoffs that the Lakers realize he's finished and have him glued to their bench.

The backup guards, Augustin vs Teague, another neutral battle. Augustin the superior shooter vs Teague the superior slasher. If Augustin gets back to where he was as a rookie, I'd give him a slight advantage. Then again, if Teague improves, he may claim it. For now, without knowing or truly expecting either outcome, I'm going to call it even.

The Lewis vs Prince matchup. Prince making slightly more in the non-scoring departments while Lewis provides a bit more scoring and more offensive efficiency. Largely equal, small advantage Sacramento.

LA Lakers

If I am LA, I am starting Bargnani and switching Tyson Chandler onto Boozer while giving Bargnani the Dampier assignment. Tyson Chandler has done a good job on Boozer several times in the past and Dampier is no problem for Bargs defensively.

That would open up the Lakers pick and roll game. An interior finisher in Tyson and a pick and pop shooter + floor spacer in Bargnani. That would help open things up for Steph Curry and Brandon Roy even further. Q-Rich and Tayshaun Prince supply solid perimeter shooting from the other wing spot.

The question then becomes, does Bargnani's added offensive punch allow LA to outplay Sacramento while these lineups are in the game? Or does his horribly inadequate team defense + very weak rebounding keep things even?

Anyways, then Sacramento plugs in Zach Randolph forcing Bargnani to guard a credible offensive threat. At that point, Bargnani gets cooked defensively in one-on-one + team defense situations + he gets out-rebounded badly (very badly). Sacramento also see a drop in their team defense and become increasingly vulnerable in transition and in the pick and roll.

Which brings me to another question, does Tyson Chandler's defense keep LA in the game at this point? With both teams scoring freely and often. Or does Sacramento's rebounding pound LA into submission?

Either way, it's all over whenever Tyson sits down because Sacramento will destroy their three (Beasley, Bargnani, Al Harrington) big men. The lack of an adequate defensive + rebounding big man to give Tyson a breather ends the Lakers postseason hopes.

Conclusion

Sacramento move on. LA steal a game when their offense is running high.

4-1 Kings win


How our Rose and Curry equal?


One has been leading his team to the playoffs.

One put up numbers in Nellie ball.  (an easy thing to do)


Curry has a lot to do in this league to prove he is equal to Rose because Rose has set a high bar to equal.