CB Draft '10 Playoffs First Round Eastern Conference

[KCattheStripe]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

[Gainesville Celtic]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

my only point that if SEA had Duhon only at PG, Jennings would be a much bigger factor (i'm way high on him) b/c Duhon is horrible defensiely.

Lebron is the best player, but I honestly lost a lot of awe about him last year/this summer... esp. in the BOS series.

[indeedproceed]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

82 games played, 82 games started, and Jennings got 32 minutes per game. If he lost anyminutes it didn't show in his stat line. Ridnour now plays for the T-Wolves, and Jennings averaged almost 36 minutes per game during the post season.

And Stuckey might be a capable scorer, but in a lineup of Stuckey-Gay-Battier-Stoudemire-Okafor, you got exactly one legitimate 3pt shooter in Battier, and 1 sometimes 3pt shooter (kinda like LeBron, but LeBron is better, a lot better) in Rudy Gay.

They probably draw straws to see who gets to attempt an ill-advised fade-away 10ft jump-shot next

LeBron James and Brandon Jennings can get anywhere they want against your team, because of the spacing my shooters create. I wonder how Stuckey and Gay will perform against an already efficient defensive squad?

That was rhetorical, I don't wonder. I know they will do poorly.

[Fafnir]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

Stuckey was one of the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions from the draft.

Who shot worse than Baron Davis at the PG position with a usage of 25+?

Stuckey lacks the other attributes of B-Diddy though, including the crazy. He might help you win a single game, but he won't sway the series. I also don't think he'll beat up on Jennings, especially with LeBron doing most of the ball handling anyways.

[StartOrien]

IP,

Joakim Noah is charming and a notororiously good dresser. How concerned are you about this year's MVP party? Just sayin, alcohols going to be flowing, maybe some Jodeci being piped through the speakers...

[KCattheStripe]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

82 games played, 82 games started, and Jennings got 32 minutes per game. If he lost anyminutes it didn't show in his stat line. Ridnour now plays for the T-Wolves, and Jennings averaged almost 36 minutes per game during the post season.

And Stuckey might be a capable scorer, but in a lineup of Stuckey-Gay-Battier-Stoudemire-Okafor, you got exactly one legitimate 3pt shooter in Battier, and 1 sometimes 3pt shooter (kinda like LeBron, but LeBron is better, a lot better) in Rudy Gay.

They probably draw straws to see who gets to attempt an ill-advised fade-away 10ft jump-shot next

LeBron James and Brandon Jennings can get anywhere they want against your team, because of the spacing my shooters create. I wonder how Stuckey and Gay will perform against an already efficient defensive squad?

That was rhetorical, I don't wonder. I know they will do poorly.

Who plays great defense on your team at the one or the two, honestly, Joakim Noah is an overrated help shotblocker. His blocks come from good one on one defense, Stuckey can't be stoopped by anyone on your team. Also, Rudy Gay is a lifetime 35% 3 point shooter.

[KCattheStripe]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

Stuckey was one of the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions from the draft.

Who shot worse than Baron Davis at the PG position with a usage of 25+?

Stuckey lacks the other attributes of B-Diddy though, including the crazy. He might help you win a single game, but he won't sway the series. I also don't think he'll beat up on Jennings, especially with LeBron doing most of the ball handling anyways.

What good is Jennings if he doesn't have the ball in his hands?

[indeedproceed]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

my only point that if SEA had Duhon only at PG, Jennings would be a much bigger factor (i'm way high on him) b/c Duhon is horrible defensiely.

Lebron is the best player, but I honestly lost a lot of awe about him last year/this summer... esp. in the BOS series.

See, I think this is a product more of hype than actual recollections, and I don't GC is the only one suffering from this.

LeBron stats against Boston: 42.3 mpg, 44.7% shooting, 26.8pts, 9.3rebounds, 7.2assists

That's against the best defense in the league. He might not have won the series, and while his team was losing  (and quitting) around him, he might not have had the muster to pick them up, but he didn't lose that series for the Cavs, the kid played his heart out.

[Fafnir]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

Stuckey was one of the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions from the draft.

Who shot worse than Baron Davis at the PG position with a usage of 25+?

Stuckey lacks the other attributes of B-Diddy though, including the crazy. He might help you win a single game, but he won't sway the series. I also don't think he'll beat up on Jennings, especially with LeBron doing most of the ball handling anyways.

What good is Jennings if he doesn't have the ball in his hands?

He's a capable 3 point shooter offensively for when LeBron has the ball. I was referring to Stuckey's disrupting Jennings with pressure or otherwise hurting his offensive game. Countering that would be simple:

1. Pass to LeBron
2. Profit!

[Roy H.]

That's against the best defense in the league. He might not have won the series, and while his team was losing  (and quitting) around him, he might not have had the muster to pick them up, but he didn't lose that series for the Cavs, the kid played his heart out.

The problem is, the "kid" *didn't* play his heart out.  It's ironic that you cite his teammates as quitting, when his former owner (and scores of analysts) said that it's Lebron that gave up.

Kelly Dwyer -- apparently, the smartest man in the NBA -- called Lebron "a crushing failure as a leader", for what it's worth.

[KCattheStripe]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

Stuckey was one of the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions from the draft.

Who shot worse than Baron Davis at the PG position with a usage of 25+?

Stuckey lacks the other attributes of B-Diddy though, including the crazy. He might help you win a single game, but he won't sway the series. I also don't think he'll beat up on Jennings, especially with LeBron doing most of the ball handling anyways.

What good is Jennings if he doesn't have the ball in his hands?

He's a capable 3 point shooter offensively for when LeBron has the ball. I was referring to Stuckey's disrupting Jennings with pressure or otherwise hurting his offensive game. Countering that would be simple:

1. Pass to LeBron
2. BATTIED!

FIXED!

[action781]

2) Milwaukee over Indiana- Jason Kidd is bigger and better than Derick Fisher. Kobe is way better than Rip Hamilton. Pietrus is good enough to slow down Maggette and maggette is bad enough on defense that Pietrus should get close to 10 ppg. Nowitzki will absolutely destroy Ty THomas, and Marc Gasol is better than Marcin Gortat, but neither is a particularly amazing defender, so I see Gortat getting 10-12, to Gasol's 17-8. The key here will be who has an easier time; Nowitzki or Kobe, and with Jason Kidd providing the ammunition (and 10 points, 10 assists and 5 or 6 boards himself), Nowitzki has more to work with.

I have a great amount of respect for Milwaukee.  I believe I voted them 2nd or 3rd in the East.

But I'm surprised so many people are considering Indiana out of the running so easily.  I happen to think IP is very on point with his analysis right here, except I'd like to clarify a few things.

"Jason Kidd is bigger and better than Derek Fisher"

OK, maybe some truth here.  What does bigger have anything to do with anything though?  Because Jason Kidd can post up smaller point guards like we've seen him do before?  Correct.  But when was the last time you ever saw Derek Fisher posted up by another pg?  I just asked my friend, he replied, "never".  My answer was the same.  Fisher is a strong dude...

J-Kidd averaged 8ppg in 40+ mpg in last year's first round playoff matchup against T. Parker/G. Hill.  My point guards are not horrendously worse than those 2.  Especially Fisher against a pg like Kidd who Fisher can stay in front of.  If Jack wants any meaningful playing time, Kidd won't play 40 mpg.  Due to that, I don't see Kidd averaging over 8ppg against my team and I don't see ANY reason why Fisher can't score 9 ppg in 32 mpg.  He scored averages of 10.2 (vs. Westbrook), 11.3 (Deron Williams), 11.8 (Nash), and 8.6 ppg (Rondo/Ray) in the ordered rounds of the playoffs last postseason.  I think people are seriously sleeping on how much Fisher steps it up in the playoffs!!  Please reconsider this and I welcome anyone to refute this logic.  Out perform in rebounds and assists?  Perhaps.  Will Kidd outscore Fisher?  Fisher outscored Kidd in last season's playoffs against better defenders in LESS minutes!!  So, I think NOT.  Again, all are welcome to refute.

[KCattheStripe]

That's against the best defense in the league. He might not have won the series, and while his team was losing  (and quitting) around him, he might not have had the muster to pick them up, but he didn't lose that series for the Cavs, the kid played his heart out.

The problem is, the "kid" *didn't* play his heart out.  It's ironic that you cite his teammates as quitting, when his former owner (and scores of analysts) said that it's Lebron that gave up.

He definitely quit in games 4 and 5 and then put up the strangest " I don't want people to think I quit so let me get a triple double real quick and hope people don't notice that I could have been doing this all series" moments.

[Fafnir]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

He's a very capable scorer, Stuckey got more minutes becuase he was the best guard on his team unlike Jennings who -- as faf pointed out-- kept losing minutes to Luke Ridnour. He may not be an exceptional pg as a change of pace player off the bench he's exceptional and anyone who doubts that forgets the 2008 Conference finals.

Stuckey was one of the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions from the draft.

Who shot worse than Baron Davis at the PG position with a usage of 25+?

Stuckey lacks the other attributes of B-Diddy though, including the crazy. He might help you win a single game, but he won't sway the series. I also don't think he'll beat up on Jennings, especially with LeBron doing most of the ball handling anyways.

What good is Jennings if he doesn't have the ball in his hands?

He's a capable 3 point shooter offensively for when LeBron has the ball. I was referring to Stuckey's disrupting Jennings with pressure or otherwise hurting his offensive game. Countering that would be simple:

1. Pass to LeBron
2. BATTIED!

FIXED!

Battier can't really even slow LeBron anymore. What's worse is that you have Amar'e being one of the help defenders to cover for Battier....

[misha]

CHI/SEA - in a 7-game shocker Seattle pulls off the upset. Lebron goes off but SEA can shut down the other guys and CHI can't stop Amare. (without Stuckey, SEA loses b/c of Duhon but if Stuckey does play the Manu role he can neutralize Jennings, CHI's 2nd best player)

I like KC's team, but Stuckey is no reason to call a season. The guy is a skill-set without a role. He can't shoot a 3 (22%), he's not an exceptional passer, he's not a good defender, and he's not a good shooter. He scored 17 ppg in 34 minutes last season, while Jennings scored 15.5 in less time and along with Bogut led a team to the playoffs and a pretty inspiring 7 game out against Atlanta after Bogut went down. I said booooooooooo, boooooooo GC!

my only point that if SEA had Duhon only at PG, Jennings would be a much bigger factor (i'm way high on him) b/c Duhon is horrible defensiely.

Lebron is the best player, but I honestly lost a lot of awe about him last year/this summer... esp. in the BOS series.

See, I think this is a product more of hype than actual recollections, and I don't GC is the only one suffering from this.

LeBron stats against Boston: 42.3 mpg, 44.7% shooting, 26.8pts, 9.3rebounds, 7.2assists

That's against the best defense in the league. He might not have won the series, and while his team was losing  (and quitting) around him, he might not have had the muster to pick them up, but he didn't lose that series for the Cavs, the kid played his heart out.

Was there another kid oyr there? I understand that you are trying to promote your team, but that's just not true.  Not that you need it to win the first round series...