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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2010, 01:49:23 PM »

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I see three of your starters Being question marks, Bogut's Health, I think Rush is still a couple years away from being a dependable starter for a contender, and Outlaw has only started 32 games in his 7 year career.  Why should these not be glaring questions for voters?
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2010, 01:52:47 PM »

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This isn't a question so much as it's an observation:  I really like Pat Riley as coach of this roster.  I think he'll be able to get the most out of the players here.

In terms of questions:

1.  What's Bogut's current health look like?

2.  Why is your team better than division rivals in Toronto and New York?

3.  Travis Outlaw's development has seemed to stagnate a bit over the past couple of seasons, and Brandon Rush has developed slower than expected.  Are you confident that they can both be starters?

4.  Carl Landry's stats were probably a bit inflated because he played on two teams without great big men, in Houston and Sacramento.  What type of production will Landry put up next to Bogut?

1. Here's what i found about Boogut-http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2010-08-24/andrew-bogut-working-back-from-gruesome-injury...suppose to be ready for the season opener but I got nice backups to easy him in anyways.

2. I think I have more depth and better overall range of players then the celtics who have very little depth and older yet stil good Vets but pry cant play the minutes Edagr and Redz would expect now at a high level. As far as the Knicks go they got three starters with injury history and Wade might even be considered there as well. I think my depth is better than them as well. I think outside wade and maybe Grant Hill my starters are better and my bench is better.


3. Outlaw will not be as to contribute anymore than he normally does and he will play equal to the minutes he was off then bench as he will split time with Kapono, Ebanks and Smith their as well.

4.He played when Yao was there any did ok. I think he should work well with Bogut and should see the same if not more production. He may see sometime with the second unit if need be.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2010, 01:53:23 PM »

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Trading Corey Maggette away because I like that fact that he was a scoring machine. I think an equally tough decision was taking Rondo when I did.
What was the Corey Maggette trade?

Maggette would have been very useful on this team as a sixth man.

Maggette was traded to get Carl Landry to make up for my goof of a pick and drafted Al Harrington.
Ah yes, okay, good trade. I like Carl Landry better for your team. He will contribute more defensively and fits in better alongside Rondo and Bogut.

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2010, 01:56:23 PM »

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Boston,
I see three of your starters Being question marks, Bogut's Health, I think Rush is still a couple years away from being a dependable starter for a contender, and Outlaw has only started 32 games in his 7 year career.  Why should these not be glaring questions for voters?

See my Anser to Bogut in my response to Roy. Also se my response to Outlaw about Roy. As far as Brandon Rush is concerned he will be splitting time with Smith and Flip Murray. I also have Jordan Crawford who will see some minutes as well. I think Rush will flourish playing alongside Rondo. He has nevered played with a pg like Rondo.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2010, 01:58:15 PM »

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. . . Wayne Ellington, who was awful last year

How was Ellington "awful"?  He was an elite 3PT shooter, he was a good defender, and he showed excellent fundamentals and instincts.  His Per-36 numbers are all about average for a SG.

I'm guessing you didn't watch Ellington play much last year*.  He was one of the pleasant surprises of the draft, putting up pretty good production for the 28th overall pick.

* (although, frankly, the harshness of your tone aimed against Edgar suggests that your analysis may be personal, rather than objective.  I mean, your entire critique of Edgar's team was one giant attack, starting with "Okay, Toronto, it's pretty obvious you took the philosophy that drafting deep in the draft you didn't think you could put together a true contending team . . ."  I don't think it's exactly fair to put words in Edgar's mouth.)



Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2010, 01:59:14 PM »

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. . . Wayne Ellington, who was awful last year

How was Ellington "awful"?  He was an elite 3PT shooter, he was a good defender, and he showed excellent fundamentals and instincts.  His Per-36 numbers are all about average for a SG.

I'm guessing you didn't watch Ellington play much last year*.  He was one of the pleasant surprises of the draft, putting up pretty good production for the 28th overall pick.

* (although, frankly, the harshness of your tone aimed against Edgar suggests that your analysis may be personal, rather than objective.  I mean, your entire critique of Edgar's team was one giant attack, starting with "Okay, Toronto, it's pretty obvious you took the philosophy that drafting deep in the draft you didn't think you could put together a true contending team . . ."  I don't think it's exactly fair to put words in Edgar's mouth.)




I think you've used that one before. ;)


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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2010, 02:00:15 PM »

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. . . Wayne Ellington, who was awful last year

How was Ellington "awful"?  He was an elite 3PT shooter, he was a good defender, and he showed excellent fundamentals and instincts.  His Per-36 numbers are all about average for a SG.

I'm guessing you didn't watch Ellington play much last year*.  He was one of the pleasant surprises of the draft, putting up pretty good production for the 28th overall pick.

* (although, frankly, the harshness of your tone aimed against Edgar suggests that your analysis may be personal, rather than objective.  I mean, your entire critique of Edgar's team was one giant attack, starting with "Okay, Toronto, it's pretty obvious you took the philosophy that drafting deep in the draft you didn't think you could put together a true contending team . . ."  I don't think it's exactly fair to put words in Edgar's mouth.)




I think you've used that one before. ;)


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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2010, 02:02:18 PM »

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. . . Wayne Ellington, who was awful last year

How was Ellington "awful"?  He was an elite 3PT shooter, he was a good defender, and he showed excellent fundamentals and instincts.  His Per-36 numbers are all about average for a SG.

I'm guessing you didn't watch Ellington play much last year*.  He was one of the pleasant surprises of the draft, putting up pretty good production for the 28th overall pick.

* (although, frankly, the harshness of your tone aimed against Edgar suggests that your analysis may be personal, rather than objective.  I mean, your entire critique of Edgar's team was one giant attack, starting with "Okay, Toronto, it's pretty obvious you took the philosophy that drafting deep in the draft you didn't think you could put together a true contending team . . ."  I don't think it's exactly fair to put words in Edgar's mouth.)
I believe you are mistaking harshness of tone for reality of the situation Roy. Edgar's entire post was hype and hyberbole and, let's be fair here, it's pretty obvious what the strategy was. I didn't put words in Edgar's mouth, I simply gave my opinion on what their team building strategy was. Given his advertisement of having so many Celtics, I don't think I'm wrong.

Second let's remember who challenged people who didn't believe in his team first. That was Edgar when he said

If you want to say Perkins is hurt and all of that dirty stuff
be our guest
This team have enough bodies to wait half a season and become champs
after that.


Is everyone just supposed to hang back and just say "Yeah, you're right Edgar, we won't bring up your severely hurt starting center and just hand you the trophy now."

I apologize if you or anyone reads the wrong tone into my critique of Toronto. It wasn't an attack. It was what I believe to be a much more realistic look at his team then Edgar is portraying.

Also regarding Ellington, I think he's awful because of his 9.6 PER, his 52% TS% even though apparently he's an elite three point shooter and good FT shooter, his defensive rating being 14 points higher than his offensive rating and his 1 assist to 1 turnover ratio.

I saw Ellington play four times last year and was thoroughly unimpressed each time, which is disappointing given that I thought he would be a steal in the draft being taken that late. He still could be. He didn't have a good rookie season at all but he could still turn into a heck of a player taken that late.

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2010, 02:02:47 PM »

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Question for Boston

How many minutes could we realistically expect out of an "offensive team" that includes Rondo, JR Smith/Rush, Kapono? Rondo's a pretty good defensive player, though he gambles a lot, and that might be harder to hide when JR Smith and Jason Kapono are inovlved in a defense.

Can you really outscore teams w/ that lineup?
It would pry be only for 10-15 mintues if need be pry less though. Yes this lineup can outscore teams with Rondo's drving abilities it should lead to open looks for Kapono and Smith or Rush. They might lack a little defensively but should hurt me to badly with bogut and landry down low.
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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2010, 02:07:13 PM »

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Boston,
I see three of your starters Being question marks, Bogut's Health, I think Rush is still a couple years away from being a dependable starter for a contender, and Outlaw has only started 32 games in his 7 year career.  Why should these not be glaring questions for voters?

See my Anser to Bogut in my response to Roy. Also se my response to Outlaw about Roy. As far as Brandon Rush is concerned he will be splitting time with Smith and Flip Murray. I also have Jordan Crawford who will see some minutes as well. I think Rush will flourish playing alongside Rondo. He has nevered played with a pg like Rondo.

The question I have is why do you have a guy like Rush, who was dumb enough to get suspended for using drugs during the season, and get caught three times at that, next to a guy like JR Smith who will go all wayne brady on a dude if he doesn't give him his fruitcup? Seems like the lockerroom is going to be a lot of pulling in different, counterproductive directions.

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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2010, 02:15:43 PM »

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Question for Boston

How many minutes could we realistically expect out of an "offensive team" that includes Rondo, JR Smith/Rush, Kapono? Rondo's a pretty good defensive player, though he gambles a lot, and that might be harder to hide when JR Smith and Jason Kapono are inovlved in a defense.

Can you really outscore teams w/ that lineup?
It would pry be only for 10-15 mintues if need be pry less though. Yes this lineup can outscore teams with Rondo's drving abilities it should lead to open looks for Kapono and Smith or Rush. They might lack a little defensively but should hurt me to badly with bogut and landry down low.

But what happens when Rondo's defender backs off? Because of Pierce & Allen's ability to create the Celtics are often able to work around this. Neither Kapono or Brandon Rush are anywhere capable of doing this.

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2010, 02:24:34 PM »

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Question for Toronto

Depth at the wings is a concern. How many minutes do you expect Allen & Pierce to play nightly?

Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2010, 02:27:36 PM »

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Question for Toronto:

If you could now go back and re-do the Rasho pick, who would you take?  Would it still be Michael Redd, or would you grab somebody else?


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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2010, 02:28:32 PM »

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Re: 2010 CelticsBlog Draft: Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2010, 02:28:52 PM »

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Question for Boston

How many minutes could we realistically expect out of an "offensive team" that includes Rondo, JR Smith/Rush, Kapono? Rondo's a pretty good defensive player, though he gambles a lot, and that might be harder to hide when JR Smith and Jason Kapono are inovlved in a defense.

Can you really outscore teams w/ that lineup?
It would pry be only for 10-15 mintues if need be pry less though. Yes this lineup can outscore teams with Rondo's drving abilities it should lead to open looks for Kapono and Smith or Rush. They might lack a little defensively but should hurt me to badly with bogut and landry down low.

But what happens when Rondo's defender backs off? Because of Pierce & Allen's ability to create the Celtics are often able to work around this. Neither Kapono or Brandon Rush are anywhere capable of doing this.

Then I can dump it into landry or bogut...probably during the tome this offense is on the court their would be a lot of pick and roll and pick and pop.
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