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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #195 on: August 31, 2010, 12:16:55 PM »

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However, as Roy mentioned, as the GM i'd be more inclined to just give Phil Jackson this group of players and let him put into place whatever offensive scheme he deems most effective.  Again, this man is one of the greats of our time, i'd have to think that he would find a way to create a highly effective offense with the best playmaker in the NBA, a multiskilled wingman in Jax, and a uniquely talented bigman in Odom.

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #196 on: August 31, 2010, 12:19:55 PM »

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Steve Nash is absolutely wasted in the triangle offense.

I don't think wasted is accurate; I guess if Phil Jackson was to stick to the pure principals of the triangle then Nash would be marginalized when the ball was rotated to the other side of the court, but again i drafted Phil Jackson because he's knows how to get the most out of his players and one would assume that he is crafty enough to make adjustments to the offense.

I understand that the triangle isn't ideal for Nash, but if we're really going to harp on coaching philosiphies then why aren't we talking about Kevin Stallings? he's never even coached in the NBA it could be a total disaster in Orlando.  Nevermind health concerns, Rudy T hasn't coached in 6 years.  Eric Spolestra has only 2 years of NBA coaching experience; some believe (whether founded or not) that Riley will eventually take over the real Miami Heat now that they actually have a decent team.

To me it just seems like i'm being penalized for selecting Phil Jackson, which is kind of absurd.  Yet if coaching and coaches' offensive/defensive philosophies were important then other teams would have a lot more issues than the Heat would.
Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #197 on: August 31, 2010, 12:23:23 PM »

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http://www.coachawinningteam.com/basketball_play_triangle/

Steve Nash is absolutely wasted in the triangle offense.

I don't think wasted is accurate; I guess if Phil Jackson was to stick to the pure principals of the triangle then Nash would be marginalized when the ball was rotated to the other side of the court, but again i drafted Phil Jackson because he's knows how to get the most out of his players and one would assume that he is crafty enough to make adjustments to the offense.

I understand that the triangle isn't ideal for Nash, but if we're really going to harp on coaching philosiphies then why aren't we talking about Kevin Stallings? he's never even coached in the NBA it could be a total disaster in Orlando.  Nevermind health concerns, Rudy T hasn't coached in 6 years.  Eric Spolestra has only 2 years of NBA coaching experience; some believe (whether founded or not) that Riley will eventually take over the real Miami Heat now that they actually have a decent team.

To me it just seems like i'm being penalized for selecting Phil Jackson, which is kind of absurd.  Yet if coaching and coaches' offensive/defensive philosophies were important then other teams would have a lot more issues than the Heat would.

I'm not saying Phil Jackson can't coach your team, I'm saying he wouldn't dream of using the triangle with your current personnel, because you don't have the players to pull it off and still be one of the best offensive teams in the league.

Jackson would work harder on utilizing Nash's penetration and passing ability on being the starting point of every offensive set.

Nobody is penalizing you for taking Jackson, I'm just sayin..he wouldn't run the triangle with your team.

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2010, 12:32:33 PM »

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Steve Nash is absolutely wasted in the triangle offense.

I don't think wasted is accurate; I guess if Phil Jackson was to stick to the pure principals of the triangle then Nash would be marginalized when the ball was rotated to the other side of the court, but again i drafted Phil Jackson because he's knows how to get the most out of his players and one would assume that he is crafty enough to make adjustments to the offense.

I understand that the triangle isn't ideal for Nash, but if we're really going to harp on coaching philosiphies then why aren't we talking about Kevin Stallings? he's never even coached in the NBA it could be a total disaster in Orlando.  Nevermind health concerns, Rudy T hasn't coached in 6 years.  Eric Spolestra has only 2 years of NBA coaching experience; some believe (whether founded or not) that Riley will eventually take over the real Miami Heat now that they actually have a decent team.

To me it just seems like i'm being penalized for selecting Phil Jackson, which is kind of absurd.  Yet if coaching and coaches' offensive/defensive philosophies were important then other teams would have a lot more issues than the Heat would.
Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.
I think Phil would be banging on his GM's door demanding that Steve Nash be traded.

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2010, 01:11:05 PM »

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However, as Roy mentioned, as the GM i'd be more inclined to just give Phil Jackson this group of players and let him put into place whatever offensive scheme he deems most effective.  Again, this man is one of the greats of our time, i'd have to think that he would find a way to create a highly effective offense with the best playmaker in the NBA, a multiskilled wingman in Jax, and a uniquely talented bigman in Odom.

Bingo.  

I'd also have to co-sign. Also, between Jackson and Nash, fair to say that no other team's roster 2 through 13 will overachieve more.

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #200 on: August 31, 2010, 01:34:38 PM »

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Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.



I think Phil would be banging on his GM's door demanding that Steve Nash be traded.

Faf - i absolutely agree that it's a fair line of questioning, i just don't think we've seen it across the board for other GMs.  I was prepared to have to defend the Jackson pick when i made it.

Who - trade proposals for Nash were tossed around to many GMs...Nick and i even came pretty close to a mega-deal within our own conference.  In the end i just wasn't recieving adequate value for Nash.  I agree with IP and the rest of you guys in that Nash and Phil Jax aren't a match made in heaven, but ultimately i decided that it was better to keep a dynamic talent like Nash as opposed to shipping him out for players whom i didn't believe to be of similar value.

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #201 on: August 31, 2010, 01:59:53 PM »

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Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.



I think Phil would be banging on his GM's door demanding that Steve Nash be traded.

Faf - i absolutely agree that it's a fair line of questioning, i just don't think we've seen it across the board for other GMs.  I was prepared to have to defend the Jackson pick when i made it.

Who - trade proposals for Nash were tossed around to many GMs...Nick and i even came pretty close to a mega-deal within our own conference.  In the end i just wasn't recieving adequate value for Nash.  I agree with IP and the rest of you guys in that Nash and Phil Jax aren't a match made in heaven, but ultimately i decided that it was better to keep a dynamic talent like Nash as opposed to shipping him out for players whom i didn't believe to be of similar value.
Hey those talks were top secret. :D
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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #202 on: August 31, 2010, 03:04:12 PM »

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Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.



I think Phil would be banging on his GM's door demanding that Steve Nash be traded.

Faf - i absolutely agree that it's a fair line of questioning, i just don't think we've seen it across the board for other GMs.  I was prepared to have to defend the Jackson pick when i made it.

Who - trade proposals for Nash were tossed around to many GMs...Nick and i even came pretty close to a mega-deal within our own conference.  In the end i just wasn't recieving adequate value for Nash.  I agree with IP and the rest of you guys in that Nash and Phil Jax aren't a match made in heaven, but ultimately i decided that it was better to keep a dynamic talent like Nash as opposed to shipping him out for players whom i didn't believe to be of similar value.
Hey those talks were talk secret. :D

tell us! tell us! tell us! tell us!

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2010, 03:12:36 PM »

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Fit of personal is important, I do think Phil would adjust his offense, but its not a ridiculous line of questioning.



I think Phil would be banging on his GM's door demanding that Steve Nash be traded.

Faf - i absolutely agree that it's a fair line of questioning, i just don't think we've seen it across the board for other GMs.  I was prepared to have to defend the Jackson pick when i made it.

Who - trade proposals for Nash were tossed around to many GMs...Nick and i even came pretty close to a mega-deal within our own conference.  In the end i just wasn't recieving adequate value for Nash.  I agree with IP and the rest of you guys in that Nash and Phil Jax aren't a match made in heaven, but ultimately i decided that it was better to keep a dynamic talent like Nash as opposed to shipping him out for players whom i didn't believe to be of similar value.
Hey those talks were talk secret. :D

tell us! tell us! tell us! tell us!
I think the final offer we got to but that I think neither side loved was

Boxers send Manu, Bynum and Bayless

Heat send Nash, Jackson and Chris Anderson

If that went down my plan was going to be to trade Felton and Chandler in a package for a better SF if possible.

Never worked out and I'm happy it didn't

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2010, 03:14:51 PM »

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #205 on: August 31, 2010, 06:26:30 PM »

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I've ranked my teams:

Washington (50 wins) - A well balanced team that if injuries are relatively minor, should be able to patch together a decent enough regular season rotation to win 50 games.
Atlanta (50 wins) - I think will explode on some teams offensively, especially ones who are poor or slow/lazy defensively like the '10 Celtics.  Will struggle to score against good, disciplined defensive teams.
Nashville (48 wins) - Great scoring 1-4, AK is a very strong 6th man.
Seattle (44 wins) - I don't think Gay is a winner and I'm still not convinced that Duhon is a good enough passer to get Amare playing like he did in Phoenix.
Miami (40 wins) - They'll win some games during the regular season, but they are just soooooo small.  And no way the triangle offense works with this group.

This division is strong, but I don't see a champion coming out of it.
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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #206 on: August 31, 2010, 07:39:14 PM »

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I've ranked my teams:

Washington (50 wins) - A well balanced team that if injuries are relatively minor, should be able to patch together a decent enough regular season rotation to win 50 games.
Atlanta (50 wins) - I think will explode on some teams offensively, especially ones who are poor or slow/lazy defensively like the '10 Celtics.  Will struggle to score against good, disciplined defensive teams.
Nashville (48 wins) - Great scoring 1-4, AK is a very strong 6th man.
Seattle (44 wins) - I don't think Gay is a winner and I'm still not convinced that Duhon is a good enough passer to get Amare playing like he did in Phoenix.
Miami (40 wins) - They'll win some games during the regular season, but they are just soooooo small.  And no way the triangle offense works with this group.

This division is strong, but I don't see a champion coming out of it.
Let me gues you think the champion is coming out of the......ummm wait.....no hints....the....ummmm......Eastern Conference Central Division?!?!?!?!

Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2010, 07:53:50 PM »

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BREAKING NEWS:

Rumor out of  Miami is that Phil Jackson has been flirting with the idea of implementing his highly secretive and experimental Rhombus offense during training camp.

principles of the Rhombus offense:

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Every rhombus (offense) has two diagonals connecting opposite pairs of vertices and two pairs of parallel sides. Using congruent triangles, one can prove that the rhombus (offense) is symmetric across each of these diagonals. It follows that any rhombus (offense) has the following two properties:

1.Opposite angles of a rhombus (offense) have equal measure.
2.Steve Nash will eat Chris Duhon for lunch and dinner.

The first property implies that every rhombus is a parallelogram. A rhombus (offense) therefore has all of the properties of a parallelogram: opposite sides are parallel, adjacent angles are supplementary, it takes advantage of Lamar Odom's impressive ballhandling skills, and the two diagonals bisect one another.

Not every parallelogram is a rhombus, though any parallelogram with perpendicular diagonals (the second property) is a rhombus. In general, any quadrilateral with perpendicular diagonals, one of which is a line of symmetry, is a kite. Every rhombus is a kite, and any quadrilateral that is both a kite and parallelogram is a recipe for an NBA title.

Simply put - CHAMPIONSHIP!

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #208 on: August 31, 2010, 09:46:13 PM »

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Re: 2010 CB Draft: Southeast Division Press Conferences
« Reply #209 on: August 31, 2010, 10:09:03 PM »

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I've ranked my teams:

Washington (50 wins) - A well balanced team that if injuries are relatively minor, should be able to patch together a decent enough regular season rotation to win 50 games.
Atlanta (50 wins) - I think will explode on some teams offensively, especially ones who are poor or slow/lazy defensively like the '10 Celtics.  Will struggle to score against good, disciplined defensive teams.
Nashville (48 wins) - Great scoring 1-4, AK is a very strong 6th man.
Seattle (44 wins) - I don't think Gay is a winner and I'm still not convinced that Duhon is a good enough passer to get Amare playing like he did in Phoenix.
Miami (40 wins) - They'll win some games during the regular season, but they are just soooooo small.  And no way the triangle offense works with this group.

This division is strong, but I don't see a champion coming out of it.
Let me gues you think the champion is coming out of the......ummm wait.....no hints....the....ummmm......Eastern Conference Central Division?!?!?!?!


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