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Re: Woj : Anthony, Nuggets look ready to part ways
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2010, 09:20:49 AM »

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Which raises a more difficult question what can they get for Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith?

Its tough to get value for three players at once!

I'm guessing it'll take a couple of deals.

Of course once one of these guys move, I have a feeling that this team is headed to bigtime Implosionville. Won't be pretty.


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Re: Woj : Anthony, Nuggets look ready to part ways
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2010, 09:29:05 AM »

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I'd like to see him get sent to Houston.

Re: Woj : Anthony, Nuggets look ready to part ways
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2010, 09:32:30 AM »

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Sending him to Utah would be amaziningly funny. Wont happen but Lala and Melo would just love that community.

I think he's NJ bound though i'd rather he stay in the West, the East is getting too good.

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2010, 10:00:36 AM »

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To the Clippers

Blake Griffin, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordan and first rounders for Carmelo Anthony and JR Smith works

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2010, 10:04:16 AM »

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I wish we could get some players from them but we don't seem to be in a position to.

I am hoping that they keep it together at least for this year. If they blow it up I assume they will trade their players to an eastern conference team. We really don't need the east getting any stronger.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2010, 11:57:28 AM »

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This three-way works:

Atlanta trades Mike Bibby, Marvin Williams and Josh Smith, receives Carmelo Anthony and Chauncy Billups

Detroit trades Richard Hamilton and Charlie Villanueva, receives J.R. Smith and Kenyon Martin

Denver trades Anthony, Billups, Martin, and J.R. Smith, receives Bibby, Hamilton, Josh Smith, Villanueva, and Williams.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=24s562n

At least Denver gets a very good player (Josh Smith), and two pretty good players (Hamilton and Villanueva) for their stars. That will keep them somewhat competitive rather than just blowing it up, and they will save $10M in salary this year - I guess that's $20M with the tax.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2010, 12:39:55 PM »

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To the Clippers

Blake Griffin, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordan and first rounders for Carmelo Anthony and JR Smith works

That would be a heck of a deal for Denver. 

In deals like this, I'd expect something closer to the KG / Gasol / Kidd deals.  Maybe one very good young guy, but not multiple ones.


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Re: Woj : Anthony, Nuggets look ready to part ways
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2010, 01:09:41 PM »

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Stay out west.

San Antonio- Tony Parker and Antonio McDyess= 18.3 Mil
Denver- Carmelo Anthony = 17.1 Mil

Boom!

George Hill- Manu Ginobili- Carmelo Anthony, Tiago Splitter, Tim Duncan

OR

Utah- Andrei Kirilenko= 17.8 Mil + 1st round pick
Denver- Carmelo= 17.1 Mil

This would instantly stack up Utah as a possible favorite out west.

Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Carmelo Anthony, Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur

No way Denver trades Anthony to any top tier team in the West, least of all to Utah who just ousted them in 6 games in the first round.
  what difference does it make? him leaving destroys all hope of having a successful team. I was just thinking don’t trade within the division.

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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2010, 01:37:38 PM »

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Stay out west.

San Antonio- Tony Parker and Antonio McDyess= 18.3 Mil
Denver- Carmelo Anthony = 17.1 Mil

Boom!

George Hill- Manu Ginobili- Carmelo Anthony, Tiago Splitter, Tim Duncan

OR

Utah- Andrei Kirilenko= 17.8 Mil + 1st round pick
Denver- Carmelo= 17.1 Mil

This would instantly stack up Utah as a possible favorite out west.

Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Carmelo Anthony, Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur

No way Denver trades Anthony to any top tier team in the West, least of all to Utah who just ousted them in 6 games in the first round.
  what difference does it make? him leaving destroys all hope of having a successful team. I was just thinking don’t trade within the division.

Utah is in their division.

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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2010, 02:39:23 PM »

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I don't think Denver management will care who they send him to.  By trading Carmelo, they are committing to rebuild.  They will likely look for the best upside youth and draft picks they can get their hands on. 

I wonder if LA will dangle Bynum. I am not sure Carmelo makes them a better team in the short run give that they lose some height/size that I think they will need in the Finals this year.  But they'll have an awfully formidable Big 3 in Kobe, Carmelo and Gasol (plus Odom). Ouch.    Denver gets the brittle, but potentially dominant big in Bynum -- a pretty substantial gamble for them in my opinion (but one that could pay).
 

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2010, 02:43:12 PM »

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I don't think Denver management will care who they send him to.  By trading Carmelo, they are committing to rebuild.  They will likely look for the best upside youth and draft picks they can get their hands on. 

I wonder if LA will dangle Bynum. I am not sure Carmelo makes them a better team in the short run give that they lose some height/size that I think they will need in the Finals this year.  But they'll have an awfully formidable Big 3 in Kobe, Carmelo and Gasol (plus Odom). Ouch.    Denver gets the brittle, but potentially dominant big in Bynum -- a pretty substantial gamble for them in my opinion (but one that could pay).
 
A team with two scorers like Kobe Bryant and Gasol would have serious diminishing returns with Carmelo.

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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2010, 02:48:13 PM »

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I would trade Andrew Bynum for Carmelo Anthony if I could trade Ron Artest for a physical defensive minded center.

The Lakers offense is vulnerable. They can be turned into a below average offensive team fairly easily. They are too dependent on post scoring + Kobe isolations. Adding a guy like Carmelo Anthony and moving to a Pau/Odom combination more often would make them a far more potent side.

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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2010, 02:54:01 PM »

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To the Clippers

Blake Griffin, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordan and first rounders for Carmelo Anthony and JR Smith works

That would be a heck of a deal for Denver. 

In deals like this, I'd expect something closer to the KG / Gasol / Kidd deals.  Maybe one very good young guy, but not multiple ones.
They are getting a superstar and one of the more "explosive" bench players in the league. If you are right though, a more probable trade would be Anthony for Griffin, Aminu, Gomes and Foye and 2 first rounder 2011 and 2013


(Read into the explosive comment whatever you will. It will probably be correct any way you interpret it).

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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2010, 02:58:59 PM »

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I would trade Andrew Bynum for Carmelo Anthony if I could trade Ron Artest for a physical defensive minded center.

The Lakers offense is vulnerable. They can be turned into a below average offensive team fairly easily. They are too dependent on post scoring + Kobe isolations. Adding a guy like Carmelo Anthony and moving to a Pau/Odom combination more often would make them a far more potent side.


Bynum and Artest for Carmelo and Nene and Birdman?

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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2010, 03:10:27 PM »

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I would trade Andrew Bynum for Carmelo Anthony if I could trade Ron Artest for a physical defensive minded center.

The Lakers offense is vulnerable. They can be turned into a below average offensive team fairly easily. They are too dependent on post scoring + Kobe isolations. Adding a guy like Carmelo Anthony and moving to a Pau/Odom combination more often would make them a far more potent side.


Bynum and Artest for Carmelo and Nene and Birdman?
Ooh, nice. I like it.

Nene would do very well in the Triangle and could play both the four and the five. That would improve LA.

Chris Andersen's inclusion or non-inclusion in the deal wouldn't be a deal breaker. A solid fourth big to have though.