Press Conference Schedule is Up! 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board

[RebusRankin]

Roy and his deals amaze me. He strikes me as the guy in Fantasy Football who'd drafted Tebow and end up with Brees. 

[indeedproceed]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway, don't play cards with a man named after a city, and don't under any circumstances trade with roy hobbs."

[nickagneta]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway", (im a stickler for rules), "don't date women who own sex and the city dvd's", "don't play cards with a man named after a city", and "don't under and circumstances trade with roy hobbs"

Such words of wisdom from one so young.

Lawyers make a lot of money doing negotiations for a living people. It's why when a lawyer comes knocking at the door saying that he has a deal for you, you should be slamming that door in his face and running in the other direction as quickly as possible.

 

[Roy H.]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway", (im a stickler for rules), "don't date women who own sex and the city dvd's", "don't play cards with a man named after a city", and "don't under and circumstances trade with roy hobbs"

Such words of wisdom from one so young.

Lawyers make a lot of money doing negotiations for a living people. It's why when a lawyer comes knocking at the door saying that he has a deal for you, you should be slamming that door in his face and running in the other direction as quickly as possible.

 

Believe it or not, nick, on 95% of these trades that come together, I don't have to do too much persuading.  Instead, it's about trying to fill other teams' needs, and finding something that works for me, too.  I just don't say "yes" until something makes sense for me, but I always try to keep the door open to keep working.

I know some GMs are good at talking others into doing deals.  I've found that generally when I try to do that, people think I'm trying to sell them a bill of goods, and they back away from deals.

[KCattheStripe]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway", (im a stickler for rules), "don't date women who own sex and the city dvd's", "don't play cards with a man named after a city", and "don't under and circumstances trade with roy hobbs"

Such words of wisdom from one so young.

Lawyers make a lot of money doing negotiations for a living people. It's why when a lawyer comes knocking at the door saying that he has a deal for you, you should be slamming that door in his face and running in the other direction as quickly as possible.

 

Believe it or not, nick, on 95% of these trades that come together, I don't have to do too much persuading.  Instead, it's about trying to fill other teams' needs, and finding something that works for me, too.  I just don't say "yes" until something makes sense for me, but I always try to keep the door open to keep working.

I know some GMs are good at talking others into doing deals.  I've found that generally when I try to do that, people think I'm trying to sell them a bill of goods, and they back away from deals.

I can attest to single handedly handing Roy the 2008 championship with literally no cajolling on his part.

[KCattheStripe]

btw, the binky I wanted: Terrico White.

[indeedproceed]

don't sleep on kc's binkies. they don't like it one bit.

also they're usually decent players

[KCattheStripe]

don't sleep on kc's binkies. they don't like it one bit.

also they're usually decent players

Isn't that right Nick "Doubting Thomas" Agenta?

[action781]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway", (im a stickler for rules), "don't date women who own sex and the city dvd's", "don't play cards with a man named after a city", and "don't under and circumstances trade with roy hobbs"

IP, you're hilarious

[nickagneta]

I've had a couple of rules to live by for a while now...."don't play freeze tag on the highway", (im a stickler for rules), "don't date women who own sex and the city dvd's", "don't play cards with a man named after a city", and "don't under and circumstances trade with roy hobbs"

Such words of wisdom from one so young.

Lawyers make a lot of money doing negotiations for a living people. It's why when a lawyer comes knocking at the door saying that he has a deal for you, you should be slamming that door in his face and running in the other direction as quickly as possible.

 

Believe it or not, nick, on 95% of these trades that come together, I don't have to do too much persuading.  Instead, it's about trying to fill other teams' needs, and finding something that works for me, too.  I just don't say "yes" until something makes sense for me, but I always try to keep the door open to keep working.

I know some GMs are good at talking others into doing deals.  I've found that generally when I try to do that, people think I'm trying to sell them a bill of goods, and they back away from deals.

Ummm .....it was a joke Roy. But you bring up a good point of discussion. That is the best way to try to complete trades. I will admit, if you are coming to me, I am probably a tough person to close a deal with, so I tend to initiate most trades I complete if not all.

I make offers. Might make a couple comments or counters but, I'm generally the same way about how much actual selling of the I do. It's usually a quick yea or nay for me too. Most of my talking during trades comes when someone low balls me and then continues to come back looking for counters or comes back telling me something I just don't agree with. Then I go into full salesman and debate mode.

The guys I have had dealings with regularly over the last couple of drafts that I have a good relationship with, we will actually talk about why we are offering something, why it does or doesn't work for us and be real open. Those tend to be the most fair and most easy trades to do and to be honest, its a great way of helping to build your team and theirs. Networking with regular people is a great way of making trades that benefit both teams and facilitating getting players from third teams to your team through your regular networking pals.

[greenteam17]

There has been a three team trade:

SAC trades:  Andrea Bargnani, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Ryan Hollins, Tyler Hansborough
SAC receives:  Eric Dampier, Zach Randolph, Drew Gooden

LAL trades: Jeff Green, Drew Gooden, David Anderson
LAL receives: Andrea Bargnani, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Ryan Hollins 


PHI trades:  Zach Randolph, Eric Dampier
PHI receives:  Jeff Green, Tyler Hansborough, David Anderson

Roy most people who pull off these types of crimes go away for a long time for rape.

ummm... what?

All I'm saying is that Sacramento clearly bested the other two teams in this swindle. They gave up four complete and utter scrubs for an All-Star and a another PF/C type that between them put up an average of 31 PPG and 20 RPG and also added an plus defensive center.

If it isn't rape, it's clearly highway robbery.

Add LAL disappoints me in this. They clearly were getting great value out of their last few trades and then gave it all back on this one.

All I can say Nick is that you were singing a very different tune when we talked about Zach Randolph as were most people. So I am very surprised to hear this reaction from you. Most people would have thought Randolph to be a cancer and dampier a decent option at center. But I think you'll agree, that Blake Griffin is the best player on my team and it would have been terrible to play him at the wrong position or have him coming off the bench.

[greenteam17]

PS: Philly was the one who made a bad trade, i don't understand it for Philly. Clearly some people love to get their favorite players and don't mind being less competitive as long as they're happy with their team.

So talk about trying to make someone look bad celticpride. I think Roy was right when he was talking about being diplomatic. Seriously, it's the way to make yourself unlikeable very quick when you make a statement like this. It's disappointing.

[nickagneta]

There has been a three team trade:

SAC trades:  Andrea Bargnani, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Ryan Hollins, Tyler Hansborough
SAC receives:  Eric Dampier, Zach Randolph, Drew Gooden

LAL trades: Jeff Green, Drew Gooden, David Anderson
LAL receives: Andrea Bargnani, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Ryan Hollins 


PHI trades:  Zach Randolph, Eric Dampier
PHI receives:  Jeff Green, Tyler Hansborough, David Anderson

Roy most people who pull off these types of crimes go away for a long time for rape.

ummm... what?

All I'm saying is that Sacramento clearly bested the other two teams in this swindle. They gave up four complete and utter scrubs for an All-Star and a another PF/C type that between them put up an average of 31 PPG and 20 RPG and also added an plus defensive center.

If it isn't rape, it's clearly highway robbery.

Add LAL disappoints me in this. They clearly were getting great value out of their last few trades and then gave it all back on this one.

All I can say Nick is that you were singing a very different tune when we talked about Zach Randolph as were most people. So I am very surprised to hear this reaction from you. Most people would have thought Randolph to be a cancer and dampier a decent option at center. But I think you'll agree, that Blake Griffin is the best player on my team and it would have been terrible to play him at the wrong position or have him coming off the bench.

Don't get me wrong greenteam, you did okay in replacing Randolph with Green. I don't think you made your team appreciably better, if at all, but you definitely made them more likable.

The swindle I speak of is what Roy had to give up n getting Randolph more than anything. Notice before this I never specifically mentioned Philly's end of things. I think you kind of made a sideways move yet made your team more likable. Always a good thing in this game.

[celticpride07]

PS: Philly was the one who made a bad trade, i don't understand it for Philly. Clearly some people love to get their favorite players and don't mind being less competitive as long as they're happy with their team.

So talk about trying to make someone look bad celticpride. I think Roy was right when he was talking about being diplomatic. Seriously, it's the way to make yourself unlikeable very quick when you make a statement like this. It's disappointing.

wow greenteam17, majority of people said it was a bad deal for you/me to an extent...am i not allowed to have an opinion?

[Roy H.]

Reminder:  tomorrow the Northwest does their press conferences.