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Has there ever been such a credentialed roster?
« on: August 04, 2010, 05:47:00 PM »

Offline Roy Hobbs

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Currently, not counting Rasheed, the Celtics' roster has the following credentials:

52 All-Stars
32 All-NBA selections
14 NBA All-Defense selections
4 Finals MVP
3 All-Star Game MVP
2 NBA MVP
1 DPOY
1 ROY
1 MIP

Obviously, a lot of our all-stars have seen their level of play fall off, but it's an interesting collection of historical talent.  What other teams compare?  I don't think even most of the great Celtics and Lakers teams can get within striking distance of the number of all-star selections, although many teams have beat the two MVP awards.

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Re: Has there ever been such a credentialed roster?
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I'b be more impressed if it adds up to 1 Championship

Re: Has there ever been such a credentialed roster?
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I'b be more impressed if it adds up to 1 Championship

Obviously.  However, I think there's something interesting about the immense collection of talent on the team.  Very few teams in NBA history can say they fielded a roster with 6+ former all-stars, and it's cool to marvel at, in my opinion.

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 07:04:04 PM »

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Our depth is amazing I think this year coming up.   We could conceivably have an allstar at each position if this lineup was used:   Shaq, KG, PP, Ray and Rondo.   Not saying these will be our starters or the like but they could end up on the floor together. 

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Currently, not counting Rasheed, the Celtics' roster has the following credentials:

52 All-Stars
32 All-NBA selections
14 NBA All-Defense selections
4 Finals MVP
3 All-Star Game MVP
2 NBA MVP
1 DPOY
1 ROY
1 MIP

Obviously, a lot of our all-stars have seen their level of play fall off, but it's an interesting collection of historical talent.  What other teams compare?  I don't think even most of the great Celtics and Lakers teams can get within striking distance of the number of all-star selections, although many teams have beat the two MVP awards.

TP

Of course if we could turn Sheed's contract into say Shane Battier that would add an NBA all-rookie selection and a could all-defensive second teams; but who's counting.

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Currently, not counting Rasheed, the Celtics' roster has the following credentials:

52 All-Stars
32 All-NBA selections
14 NBA All-Defense selections
4 Finals MVP
3 All-Star Game MVP
2 NBA MVP
1 DPOY
1 ROY
1 MIP

Obviously, a lot of our all-stars have seen their level of play fall off, but it's an interesting collection of historical talent.  What other teams compare?  I don't think even most of the great Celtics and Lakers teams can get within striking distance of the number of all-star selections, although many teams have beat the two MVP awards.

See the Celtics roster from about '63 thru '69.  You'll probably get your answer.
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What I will say is that this team is starting to remind me of the Miami team that won the title. 

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Currently, not counting Rasheed, the Celtics' roster has the following credentials:

52 All-Stars
32 All-NBA selections
14 NBA All-Defense selections
4 Finals MVP
3 All-Star Game MVP
2 NBA MVP
1 DPOY
1 ROY
1 MIP

Obviously, a lot of our all-stars have seen their level of play fall off, but it's an interesting collection of historical talent.  What other teams compare?  I don't think even most of the great Celtics and Lakers teams can get within striking distance of the number of all-star selections, although many teams have beat the two MVP awards.

What team has ever had three different former MVP winners?

Their collective resumes are extremely impressive, but I will reserve judgement on this squad until next summer.
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I'b be more impressed if it adds up to 1 Championship

Obviously.  However, I think there's something interesting about the immense collection of talent on the team.  Very few teams in NBA history can say they fielded a roster with 6+ former all-stars, and it's cool to marvel at, in my opinion.

True Dat.
Let's do a comparison to one of the mid-60 Celtics Teams or the Laker Team that included Malone/Payton combo.
How do they measure up?

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I feel the same name Roy.  In some ways it sucks that it's not 2000 when all these guys were at their peaks; however, it's still very, very impressive.

The only thing that might trump this is the 1962-63 Celtics that sported the likes of

Bill Russell
Bob Cousy
John Havlicek
Tommy Heinsohn
K.C. Jones
Sam Jones
Clyde Lovellette
Jim Loscutoff
Frank Ramsey
Tom Sanders


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I feel the same name Roy.  In some ways it sucks that it's not 2000 when all these guys were at their peaks; however, it's still very, very impressive.

The only thing that might trump this is the 1962-63 Celtics that sported the likes of

Bill Russell
Bob Cousy
John Havlicek
Tommy Heinsohn
K.C. Jones
Sam Jones
Clyde Lovellette
Jim Loscutoff
Frank Ramsey
Tom Sanders



Tp. You beat me to it. Plus if you looking at rings, the only real credential, we cn look at 1960s overall.
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I feel the same name Roy.  In some ways it sucks that it's not 2000 when all these guys were at their peaks; however, it's still very, very impressive.

The only thing that might trump this is the 1962-63 Celtics that sported the likes of

Bill Russell
Bob Cousy
John Havlicek
Tommy Heinsohn
K.C. Jones
Sam Jones
Clyde Lovellette
Jim Loscutoff
Frank Ramsey
Tom Sanders



Yeah, they were an amazing team, but you've got Havlicek at the beginning of his career, so he hadn't picked up all of his accolades yet.  Russell, Cousy, and Jones were amazing -- and earned everything together -- but for sheer volume of recognition, even that Celts team can't compare to this one. 

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First thought I had was '04 Lakers.  Counting the accomplishments through the end of the '04 season (maybe I should have done '03  ???).  A little less if we take out '04 too to look at the start of the season, a lot more if we go back and add in through '10.


40 All-Stars (less than Celtics)
40 All-NBA selections  (more than Celtics)
25 NBA All-Defense selections (more than Celtics)
3 Finals MVP (less than Celtics)
7 All-Star Game MVP (more than Celtics)
3 NBA MVP (more than Celtics)
1 DPOY (same as Celtics)
1 ROY (same as Celtics)
0 MIP (less than Celtics)

Of course we're considering a team with Shaq vs a team with Shaq.

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'99 Houston comes to mind too (through the end of '99):

30 All-Stars (less than Celtics)
28 All-NBA selections  (less than Celtics)
18 NBA All-Defense selections (more than Celtics)
2 Finals MVP (less than Celtics)
2 All-Star Game MVP (less than Celtics)
2 NBA MVP (same as Celtics)
2 DPOY (more than Celtics)
0 ROY (less than Celtics)
0 MIP (less than Celtics)
1 6th (more than Celtics)

(if you go to '98 Houston, you're basically swapping out Pippen for Drexler which just creates more All-Stars, but hurts in just about everything else).



And then I would think '98 Bulls (again through the end of '98 and driven largely by one individual):

21 All-Stars (less than Celtics)
20 All-NBA selections (less than Celtics)
25 NBA All-Defense selections (more than Celtics)
6 Finals MVP (more than Celtics)
4 All-Star Game MVP (more than Celtics)
5 NBA MVP (more than Celtics)
3 DPOY (more than Celtics)
1 ROY (same as Celtics)
0 MIP (less than Celtics)
1 6th (more than Celtics)



And the '01 Blazers, while they don't have the sheer numbers, but they had 8 different guys who had been either All-Stars or on an All-NBA team (plus Sabonis who added no NBA accolades, but would have added a lot had he not played his prime oversees).

20 All-Stars (less than Celtics)
12 All-NBA selections (less than Celtics)
10 NBA All-Defense selections (less than Celtics)
0 Finals MVP (less than Celtics)
1 All-Star Game MVP (less than Celtics)
0 NBA MVP (less than Celtics)
0 DPOY (less than Celtics)
1 ROY (same as Celtics)
0 MIP (less than Celtics)
2 6th (more than Celtics)

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