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Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2010, 08:51:18 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them.  

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston.  

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams.  

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time?  

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him.  



The whole point of the thread is people's personal opinions on guys they can't stand. It's not something that will be universally agreed upon. If you don't have anyone you feel that you would never root for that's fine, but there's no reason in telling other people how they should think. Fact of the matter is not if a player does well for your team you like him...that's an opinion. I hated Drew Bledsoe his entire career, but he was a good qb and won a lot of games. The fact is that some people have guys they irrationally or rationally hate. Like Derek Fisher, forgot him on my list.

This isn't a thread about players you can't stand.  If that was the thread topic, I'd keep my mouth shut or contribute my own list (Kobe and LeBron would be towards the top).  

However, this is not such a thread.  It's a "Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts" thread.  

What I'm saying is that most people are full of crap.  If most of the players on this thread actually came here, most of the people saying that they "couldn't root for" would eventually root for them, especially if these players were here for more than one year.  

Sasha Vujacic is certainly annoying.  But you're trying to tell me people wouldn't "root" for him if the game was on the line and he was taking the last shot?  

B.S.  


Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2010, 08:52:36 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them. 

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston. 

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams. 

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time? 

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him. 


Sometimes we just have to accept that some people have very strong feelings of groupism and indulge in the 'us versus them' mentality pretty profoundly. They allow themselves to build up a lot of hate for people who aren't in their in-group.

We also see plenty of stubborn individuals on the blog. No matter what BBD does, there are certain individuals who want to hate him, and his is already a Celtic. You would think that the 2009 playoffs would have helped them to move on, but, alas, for some it hasn't.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2010, 08:56:00 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them. 

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston. 

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams. 

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time? 

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him. 


Sometimes we just have to accept that some people have very strong feelings of groupism and indulge in the 'us versus them' mentality pretty profoundly. They allow themselves to build up a lot of hate for people who aren't in their in-group.

We also see plenty of stubborn individuals on the blog. No matter what BBD does, there are certain individuals who want to hate him, and his is already a Celtic. You would think that the 2009 playoffs would have helped them to move on, but, alas, for some it hasn't.

Again, maybe.  But that's more whining.  People are still rooting him for do well when he's on the court. 

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 08:57:17 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them.  

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston.  

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams.  

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time?  

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him.  



The whole point of the thread is people's personal opinions on guys they can't stand. It's not something that will be universally agreed upon. If you don't have anyone you feel that you would never root for that's fine, but there's no reason in telling other people how they should think. Fact of the matter is not if a player does well for your team you like him...that's an opinion. I hated Drew Bledsoe his entire career, but he was a good qb and won a lot of games. The fact is that some people have guys they irrationally or rationally hate. Like Derek Fisher, forgot him on my list.

This isn't a thread about players you can't stand.  If that was the thread topic, I'd keep my mouth shut or contribute my own list (Kobe and LeBron would be towards the top).  

However, this is not such a thread.  It's a "Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts" thread.  

What I'm saying is that most people are full of crap.  If most of the players on this thread actually came here, most of the people saying that they "couldn't root for" would eventually root for them, especially if these players were here for more than one year.  

Sasha Vujacic is certainly annoying.  But you're trying to tell me people wouldn't "root" for him if the game was on the line and he was taking the last shot?  

B.S.  


While I don't have much respect for people who are like what you describe, the fact remains that there are people who are stubborn and do not like to update their opinions when new data comes in.

If you are like I am and you are comfortable reevaluating your opinions when new data proves them wrong, you may find it hard to understand the more stubborn. But I cannot say that someone is wrong when he says that he could not root for a play, even if the player was on the Celtics. The person might actually be that stubborn.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2010, 09:00:38 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them. 

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston. 

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams. 

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time? 

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him. 


Sometimes we just have to accept that some people have very strong feelings of groupism and indulge in the 'us versus them' mentality pretty profoundly. They allow themselves to build up a lot of hate for people who aren't in their in-group.

We also see plenty of stubborn individuals on the blog. No matter what BBD does, there are certain individuals who want to hate him, and his is already a Celtic. You would think that the 2009 playoffs would have helped them to move on, but, alas, for some it hasn't.

Again, maybe.  But that's more whining.  People are still rooting him for do well when he's on the court. 
Or they are yelling at Doc to take him out. When he succeeds, they attribute it to luck and say someone else would have done better since it was the teammates who made the plays work. Or they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Some "principled" people (I put it in quotes because it is quite a twisted principle) would even stop rooting for the team because of their narcissistic feeling of betrayal by management in acquiring the player.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2010, 09:07:10 PM »

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Guava, you're right...but the people you are describing are about 1-5% of this board.

My point is this: there's probably at least 25-30 players names on this board.  If any of them came here, 95%+ of the people who said they hated these guys would change their minds. 

And that's why I'm saying people are full of crap. 

As I said, I hate Kobe and LeBron, but if they donned Green, I'd change my tune. 

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2010, 09:09:26 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them. 

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston. 

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams. 

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time? 

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him. 


Sometimes we just have to accept that some people have very strong feelings of groupism and indulge in the 'us versus them' mentality pretty profoundly. They allow themselves to build up a lot of hate for people who aren't in their in-group.

We also see plenty of stubborn individuals on the blog. No matter what BBD does, there are certain individuals who want to hate him, and his is already a Celtic. You would think that the 2009 playoffs would have helped them to move on, but, alas, for some it hasn't.

Again, maybe.  But that's more whining.  People are still rooting him for do well when he's on the court. 
Or they are yelling at Doc to take him out. When he succeeds, they attribute it to luck and say someone else would have done better since it was the teammates who made the plays work. Or they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Some "principled" people (I put it in quotes because it is quite a twisted principle) would even stop rooting for the team because of their narcissistic feeling of betrayal by management in acquiring the player.

Valid point.  I would probably call it a day if Kobe was traded here.  Couldn't live myself after not liking him for so long.  It would seem to hypocritical.  Some people have no problem with that type of stuff.
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Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2010, 09:10:15 PM »

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i root,cheer, and support the name on the front of the jersey....not the one on the back.  i end up loving plenty of celtics players, but personally, i love the celtics team more.

there have players i cant stand (i.e. tony allen and now jermaine oneil).  however, even though i cant stand them, i support them and cheer for them because they are celtics.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2010, 09:19:31 PM »

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As long as the player is wearing C's jersey, I'll root for him to do well. Like Marbury for example - I dislike him very much, but I wanted him to do well when he was on the team and now I back to hating him again.
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Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2010, 09:20:20 PM »

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For the most part, I think this is silly.  

If we were Bulls fans we'd be calling Paul Pierce an actor, KG annoying, and Perk a thug.  

But because we're Celtic fans, we praise Paul's veteran savvy, KG's intensity, and Perk's physical play.  

Most of the guys that you guys mention in this thread the vast majority of us would either love or at least tolerate if they were on this team.  

It's like Curt Schilling.  Objectively, the guy is incredibly annoying.  However, when he was here, I loved him.  


Fact of the matter is, you can argue that point that if they were here, we'd tolerate them. 

But I'm not so sure.  There are some athletes that we hate,
or have a dislike for but respect their abilities.
Then there are others who we might take a liking to because they come to the green.
However, clearly there are some athletes that we just wouldn't tolerate.  Which is partially why they never landed in Boston. 

Bill Laimbeer is still a baby faced assassin!  And always will be....

Maybe, but I can almost guarantee that a significant portion of this board would hate Pierce, Garnett, Perkins, and probably even Rondo if they were on different teams. 

And how many people hated Sheed before he came (and even during the regular season) and then were singing a different tune come playoff time? 

Fact of the matter is that if a player does well for your team, you like him. 


Sometimes we just have to accept that some people have very strong feelings of groupism and indulge in the 'us versus them' mentality pretty profoundly. They allow themselves to build up a lot of hate for people who aren't in their in-group.

We also see plenty of stubborn individuals on the blog. No matter what BBD does, there are certain individuals who want to hate him, and his is already a Celtic. You would think that the 2009 playoffs would have helped them to move on, but, alas, for some it hasn't.

Again, maybe.  But that's more whining.  People are still rooting him for do well when he's on the court. 
Or they are yelling at Doc to take him out. When he succeeds, they attribute it to luck and say someone else would have done better since it was the teammates who made the plays work. Or they say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Some "principled" people (I put it in quotes because it is quite a twisted principle) would even stop rooting for the team because of their narcissistic feeling of betrayal by management in acquiring the player.

Valid point.  I would probably call it a day if Kobe was traded here.  Couldn't live myself after not liking him for so long.  It would seem to hypocritical.  Some people have no problem with that type of stuff.

But would you be saying the same things about Paul, KG, Perk, and/or Rondo if they were wearing the Purple and Gold?  

And they wouldn't be any different besides wearing different jerseys.  

You're supposed to hate opposing players.  Nothing wrong with cheering them when they no longer are.  

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2010, 09:33:12 PM »

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I guess no one. 

If Shaq isn't the poster child for guys I shouldn't root for, I don't know who is.  He was Lebron before Lebron.  Cocky dominant huge guy who chose to leave money on the table in a winning organization in Orlando to scoot to LaLa land to win 3 titles for the evil rivals.  He may seem like a jolly old soul in his older years, put he was a money grabbing, limelight stealing Laker and brought them a mini dynasty.  Despicable. 

And I love him now.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2010, 09:35:09 PM »

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I guess no one. 

If Shaq isn't the poster child for guys I shouldn't root for, I don't know who is.  He was Lebron before Lebron.  Cocky dominant huge guy who chose to leave money on the table in a winning organization in Orlando to scoot to LaLa land to win 3 titles for the evil rivals.  He may seem like a jolly old soul in his older years, put he was a money grabbing, limelight stealing Laker and brought them a mini dynasty.  Despicable. 

And I love him now.

Exactly my point.

I hated him years ago.

Love him now.

Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2010, 09:56:12 PM »

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Kobe, LeBron, Dwight, Baron, Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Sasha Vujacic, Zaza Pachulia, Derek Fisher.

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Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2010, 10:00:43 PM »

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All sports are about beinht athletic, intelligent, savy and knowing and wanting to win. I cannot hate anybody with those qualities, or with most of those qualities, the more of them, the more I acknowledge them. I will welcome whichever player, with whichever name, comes to play for us. I will dislike players that steal their money for lack of effort, and I would like them not to play for us, but, they are not stealing my money so I wont go on a hating spree. We have some players that are a load and could easily be hated by some fans. I dont like some of our players, but I wont be unhappy just because I dont like them. Relax and enjoy the show, after all, its only entertainment - an expensive one, but still, it is what it is. There are betterand more things to hate. lolol :-*
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Re: Guys I couldn't root for even if they joined the Celts
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2010, 11:11:43 PM »

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