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Intriguing possibilities
« on: August 03, 2010, 06:25:01 PM »

Offline SCBirdman

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If we get Shaq for the vet min. that opens a door of endless possibilities for Sheed's contract and acquiring a quality wing player.

I think Danny has known for a while that he had to really hone in on shoring up the front court and has been holding Sheed's deal to get the right front court player.

If Sheed is signing on for the minimum, we will have almost $10 million available cap space to trade for a wing player. That includes Sheeds trade kicker, plus Gaffney and Lafayette and potential draft picks.

I have a feeling that will produce some interesting trade conversations.

I think signing Wafer and Daniels are good low rent signings. Both have potential to be very serviceable players. Daniels knows our system and Wafer, should he return to form from Houston, will provide an excellent reserve for Ray.

However, with almost $10 mill. in cap relief, I have to think we can land a really nice player that will push either Daniels or Wafer down to the 11th man or 5th wing.

Any thoughts? I know we have talked about this topic a lot this summer, but I have to wonder if Danny has been keeping that on the back burner until he filled out the front court.

Outside of the S&T for Brewer with TA, we really haven't heard about the C's involved with a lot of wings, other than vet min guys. No real trade possibilities bandied around except for the widespread speculation here on CB.

When Shaq signs for the min, then I think DA will aggressively seek a trade that nets the Celtics a quality wing that will have us all very, very happy!!!!


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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 06:39:34 PM »

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Any chance of prying away Wilson Chandler from the Knicks? He'd be for now and the future. What a potential core: RR, Bradley, Chandler.

Don't see much incentive for the Knicks to do this though. Any ideas?

Re: Intriguing possibilities
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 10:12:15 PM »

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I'd love to get Battier or Ariza.  They also have Martin and Budinger at the wings.  Someone will have to sit.  The Rockets payed a lot for Scola and Lowry so maybe they could deal with some cap relief.  Throw in a draft pick and you could maybe get one of them.  It's a long shot but hey, I never would have thought we'd get the O'Neal brothers this summer.

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 10:16:19 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 10:31:45 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 10:33:48 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.

But I don't think teams are going to be lining up to trade for a package that involves paying Brian Scalabrine 4 million dollars per year, even if only the first year is guaranteed. 


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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 10:59:00 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.

But I don't think teams are going to be lining up to trade for a package that involves paying Brian Scalabrine 4 million dollars per year, even if only the first year is guaranteed. 
Especially since Scal really wants to play, unlike Keith Van Horn. He doesn't want a buyout.

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 10:21:43 AM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.

But I don't think teams are going to be lining up to trade for a package that involves paying Brian Scalabrine 4 million dollars per year, even if only the first year is guaranteed. 




Depends on the situation, obviously. New Orleans I guarantee would rather pay Scal 4 million for one year than pay Posey for the next 2. What if New Orleans wanted to dump long term salary and wanted to get rid of David West and Posey in one deal? that's about 15 million dollars; I bet they'd be fine taking back Sheed to retire, scal on basically a one year guaranteed deal, and a draft pick for that.

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 11:22:16 AM »

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i think battier can be had ... though Ainge would be happy generating a large trade exception too, though he might wait til near camp to try to get it (since the 1 calendar year becomes more useful then)

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 08:41:53 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.

Keeping a close eye on Corey. I think in January when Wolves are out of the picture, and looking into the future. That will the time Celtics should go hard @ getting Corey. He  would serve as the defensive stopper in the second unit

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 09:26:34 PM »

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I think in January when Wolves are out of the picture.

Aren't they already out of the picture?
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 09:30:11 PM »

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I like Battier but not his contract. I don't know much about Brewer -- his numbers from last season are decent, with the exception of his 3pt.% (34.6, and only 33 for his career).
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 09:32:18 PM »

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If we need to create more salary, also don't forget that Scal can be re-signed for up to a little over 4 million on a three-year deal with only the first year guaranteed to create an additional instant-expiring contract.

With 'Sheed's contract (and his trade kicker), Gaffney/Lafayette, or even Erden/Harangody, that's north of $10M in outgoing trade value.

I highly doubt the Celtics look to bring in someone making MORE than that.

Corey Brewer would be a nice long-term option, but maybe someone like Ariza (or Battier) would be better for us for the next two years, with his defensive skills and ability to knock down the open three. He'd be like an athletic Posey of sorts, but maybe not as good a 3pt-shooter or as crafty on the defensive end.

The only problem I see with him is his contract. Four more years and roughly $28M left.

But I don't think teams are going to be lining up to trade for a package that involves paying Brian Scalabrine 4 million dollars per year, even if only the first year is guaranteed. 




Depends on the situation, obviously. New Orleans I guarantee would rather pay Scal 4 million for one year than pay Posey for the next 2. What if New Orleans wanted to dump long term salary and wanted to get rid of David West and Posey in one deal? that's about 15 million dollars; I bet they'd be fine taking back Sheed to retire, scal on basically a one year guaranteed deal, and a draft pick for that.

I think the more realistic deal is probably Sheed for Posey.  I'm not convinced that Sheed is going to yield us much more. 

I also don't think that New Orleans is desperate enough to give away David West, especially after they just told Chris Paul they're committed to winning. 

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 09:35:23 PM »

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I think in January when Wolves are out of the picture.

Aren't they already out of the picture?

I know, right. If you can get him now, go for it. But They also have a fanbase to appease. Once the excitement of the new season wears out, and Wolves start to look into the future again. The log-jam they have @ SF position becomes less attractive. The looming Corey FA summer becomes more evident. That'll be our opportunity to bounce, and get Corey.

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 09:52:08 PM »

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Battier would be perfect. Get rid MarQuis and sign Jerry Stackhouse for the vet min.