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Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2010, 02:16:44 PM »

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I think this is where Deshawn Sims has a chance to make this team. For a guy who had to play Center for Michigan he had a pretty decent outside game in the Summer League. he moves well and has a solid outside shot. He can only get better on the perimeter as like I said he was on the inside at Michigan. Sims can be a big defender at the SF and hit open jumpers.

Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2010, 02:20:25 PM »

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I hope this additional shooter is also a long, strong defensive 3.  We've got plenty for the 2.

Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2010, 02:42:24 PM »

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Roster construction wise, this shooter needs to come from the SF position.  I'd be okay with Rudy, or Jamario Moon.  Jarvis Hayes, maybe.
Moon is not a shooter. He was also exposed as a glorified hustle player in Cleveland. From what's left on the market, the closest we will find to a shooting SF is Hayes, Finley, or Simmons.

Adding any sort of shooter without a trade will also mean Erden is our backup C for most of the season, unless we can do a 1 to 1 swap for Wallace, or someone like Dampier is suddenly available and agrees to join us for the minimum.


Those are three of the worst defenders in the league, and none shot signifcantly better than moon last year.

You keep talking about bobby simmons -- i seem to recall you saying he'd be better than rudy fernandez. what kind of skills do you think he brings to the table, considering his impressive year riding pine on one of history's worst teams?
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Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2010, 02:51:02 PM »

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I still say that Houston is going to move $10 million in salary to get under the luxury tax and that that is where Rasheed's contract is going to come in handy.

Rasheed, LaFayette, Gaffney a 1st and a 2nd for Battier and Hill

Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2010, 03:05:59 PM »

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I still say that Houston is going to move $10 million in salary to get under the luxury tax and that that is where Rasheed's contract is going to come in handy.

Rasheed, LaFayette, Gaffney a 1st and a 2nd for Battier and Hill

When do you see it happening -- offseason, or more like the deadline?
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Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2010, 03:20:51 PM »

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I still say that Houston is going to move $10 million in salary to get under the luxury tax and that that is where Rasheed's contract is going to come in handy.

Rasheed, LaFayette, Gaffney a 1st and a 2nd for Battier and Hill

Mark me down as a huge fan of this trade! Battier goes with out saying but I really like Hill as well, I think he has a lot of potential.
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Re: Celtics still in market for a long-range shooter
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2010, 04:59:14 PM »

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I still say that Houston is going to move $10 million in salary to get under the luxury tax and that that is where Rasheed's contract is going to come in handy.

Rasheed, LaFayette, Gaffney a 1st and a 2nd for Battier and Hill

When do you see it happening -- offseason, or more like the deadline?
I would say right before the season starts and my reasoning is this:

If the season starts and the Celtics have to start paying Rasheed to keep things on the up and up regarding salary circumvention, then his contract becomes less and less valuable as the season progresses and a buy out and any salary paid to Sheed has to count against the cap. So the C's are going to be motivated to move him before the season starts.

The Rockets, on the other hand, have never been a team that ever pays the luxury tax. They already dumped David Anderson's $2.5 million salary for a second rounder. Yes they could wait to do the deal as close to the mid season cut off date for reporting salary for luxury tax purposes, but the likelihood that someone is going to trade away a $10 million salary exception(which would be what it would take) is extremely unlikely unless they are giving up on someone far more valuable than Shane Battier.

So, I think they realize that Erick Dampier's and Rasheed Wallace's contracts are the two most likely contracts to trade for that will net the the salary relief they will require to get under the lux tax and they realize that both will need to be traded for before the season starts.

So I think they will go to camp, take a look at how the team is going. See what Patterson and Budinger and Yao and Martin are able to give them and if they determine they can do some players then they move move either Battier or Jeffries along with Hill or Hayes. What I think they will find out is that no one will want Jeffries and that Battier will get them a good draft pick besides the cap relief.

That's my logic.

Of course if Houston decides to actually pay the luxury tax this year, forget everything I just wrote.