Hindsight on the 2009 CB Draft

[Rondo2287]

Pre Gun Issue

Gilbert
22.6ppg
4.2 rpg
7.2 apg

Sure off the court he is a disaster but those are solid numbers.  And he started every game, health wasnt an issue.  I can't predict mental instability! Im not a miracle worker!

[indeedproceed]

Pre Gun Issue

Gilbert
22.6ppg
4.2 rpg
7.2 apg

Sure off the court he is a disaster but those are solid numbers.  And he started every game, health wasnt an issue.  I can't predict mental instability! Im not a miracle worker!

Haha...you can't predict mental instability in Gilbert Arenas ahead of time? That's like saying you can't predict whether or not Kevin Garnett will swear at the stanchion before a game

[The Walker Wiggle]

Well, in hindsight, I still believe my roster of entitled second-tier stars, high effort rookies, and captain Grant Hill could have advanced further. But the team likely wasn't a true title contender, even before Randolph's late season injury. Mostly, wdleehi's criticism that the team had great individual talents but few winners held true. Though he - and others - were wrong about Hill no longer being a starter on a playoff team...

The only team with three 20ppg+ scorers:

Chris Bosh/Jonas Jerebko!/Leon Powe
Grant Hill/Andres Nocioni/Earl Clark
Anthony Randolph/DeJuan Blair/David Andersen
Joe Johnson/Marcus Thornton
Monta Ellis/D.J. Augustin

And - although no one took me seriously at the time, the Southwest was indeed the strongest division in the league. Sorry to see it broken up.

[Fafnir]

Pre Gun Issue

Gilbert
22.6ppg
4.2 rpg
7.2 apg

Sure off the court he is a disaster but those are solid numbers.  And he started every game, health wasnt an issue.  I can't predict mental instability! Im not a miracle worker!

Too bad his eFG% was .462 and TS% was .511

Not to mention being one of the worst if not the worst PG defender in the league.

He was showing signs of being a above average player again, but he wasn't there yet. He wasn't all that close in my opinion.

[Rondo2287]

Pre Gun Issue

Gilbert
22.6ppg
4.2 rpg
7.2 apg

Sure off the court he is a disaster but those are solid numbers.  And he started every game, health wasnt an issue.  I can't predict mental instability! Im not a miracle worker!

Too bad his eFG% was .462 and TS% was .511

Not to mention being one of the worst if not the worst PG defender in the league.

He was showing signs of being a above average player again, but he wasn't there yet. He wasn't all that close in my opinion.

Honest question, whats efg% and Ts% are those basketball sabermetrics?

[Fafnir]

Pre Gun Issue

Gilbert
22.6ppg
4.2 rpg
7.2 apg

Sure off the court he is a disaster but those are solid numbers.  And he started every game, health wasnt an issue.  I can't predict mental instability! Im not a miracle worker!

Too bad his eFG% was .462 and TS% was .511

Not to mention being one of the worst if not the worst PG defender in the league.

He was showing signs of being a above average player again, but he wasn't there yet. He wasn't all that close in my opinion.

Honest question, whats efg% and Ts% are those basketball sabermetrics?

Kinda, eFG% weights his shooting percentage to account for the extra value of three point shooting. His actual FG% is worse.

Basically it corrects for 3 points shooters lower FG% by giving the basket the proper credit for how many points it scores.

TS% is a rubric that takes into account how many free throws you shoot and how accurately you shoot them. Basically they are measures that say how efficiently a player is scoring.

Gilbert was being pretty inefficient to get his 22 PPG.

[nickagneta]

I still say the Boxers has a better team than a ninth seed

Starters: George Hill, Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola Joel Przybilla

Rotational Bench: Ramon Sessions, Anthony Morrow, Kris Humphries, Juwan Howard, Dan Gadzuric

Deep Bench: Darko Milicic, Alexis Ajinca, Julian Wright

Ultimately in real life the injury to Przybilla would have severely hurt this team but Hill, Jackson, Wallace, Scola,and  Morrow all had very good years.

Not bad for starting out with the 28th pick in the first round. They wouldn't have done much playoff damage but I think they were definitely a playoff team in retrospect.

[indeedproceed]

I still say the Boxers has a better team than a ninth seed

Starters: George Hill, Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola Joel Przybilla

Rotational Bench: Ramon Sessions, Anthony Morrow, Kris Humphries, Juwan Howard, Dan Gadzuric

Deep Bench: Darko Milicic, Alexis Ajinca, Julian Wright

Ultimately in real life the injury to Przybilla would have severely hurt this team but Hill, Jackson, Wallace, Scola,and  Morrow all had very good years.

Not bad for starting out with the 28th pick in the first round. They wouldn't have done much playoff damage but I think they were definitely a playoff team in retrospect.

Yeah Pryzbilla going down hurts a lot, and Sessions proved this season that he's not the most ideal guy to split time with at the 1. But, Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson played very well together, and if I remember correctly my bigger issue with your squad was that S-Jax couldn't cover the 2, which he did just fine.

Of course, I still don't think he's fast enough to defend a lot of the 2's in the league. 

[nickagneta]

I still say the Boxers has a better team than a ninth seed

Starters: George Hill, Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola Joel Przybilla

Rotational Bench: Ramon Sessions, Anthony Morrow, Kris Humphries, Juwan Howard, Dan Gadzuric

Deep Bench: Darko Milicic, Alexis Ajinca, Julian Wright

Ultimately in real life the injury to Przybilla would have severely hurt this team but Hill, Jackson, Wallace, Scola,and  Morrow all had very good years.

Not bad for starting out with the 28th pick in the first round. They wouldn't have done much playoff damage but I think they were definitely a playoff team in retrospect.

Yeah Pryzbilla going down hurts a lot, and Sessions proved this season that he's not the most ideal guy to split time with at the 1. But, Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson played very well together, and if I remember correctly my bigger issue with your squad was that S-Jax couldn't cover the 2, which he did just fine.

Of course, I still don't think he's fast enough to defend a lot of the 2's in the league. 

The Capt Jack/Gerald Wallace pairing turned out to be a formidable duo in real life carrying an otherwise horrible Bobcats team to the playoffs. With the help they had with the Boxers I think they would have been pretty good.

But as I said that JP injury was a huge setback for any post season success.

But looking back at the teams, the East was pathetic.

[indeedproceed]

But looking back at the teams, the East was pathetic.

Yeah most of the talent was concentrated in Phoenix out West.

[jgod213]

Southwest Div was stacked.  Mavs Rockets series would of gone to 7 games in the first round.  Looking back it's really a pick 'em series.  The emergence of Jennings and Jerebko really alter the matchups.  The lack of progression from Randolph and Augustine and the regression of Kidd and Marion also alter the landscape.

Love the Bosh/J-Smoove battle, hopefully we'll see some of that in real-life playoffs this year.

[bdm860]

New Jersey Nets (bdm860)- Paul Pierce, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Courtney Lee, Derek Fisher, James Posey, Drew Gooden, Beno Udrih, Eddy Curry, Shannon Brown, Kwame Brown, Bill Walker, Patrick Ewing Jr.

Just about every gamble I made, failed, miserably.

Hoping for a revitalized, semi-healthy Eddy Curry, got  7 games from him.
Hoping for Elton Brand the All-Star, got 13.1ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.1 bpg all career lows.
Hoping Courtney Lee would have a breakout season going from the Finals to the lowly Nets.  Nope.
Hoping Sheed would thrive in Boston, and his value would be extra high as we all would see how well he would still function on a solid team.  Well I think we all know how that went.


Not looking at other teams, but I could see Paul Pierce and a bunch of solid players getting the 6th seed and going home in the first round.  Which is exactly what happened.

[RebusRankin]

In hindsight, my Braves team likely didn't deserve to make the Western Finals.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Just about every gamble I made, failed, miserably.

Beno had a great year - his high efficiency play alongside Tyreke allowed Kings to trade Martin.

But, yes, that front court rotation suffers in hindsight.

[bdm860]

Just about every gamble I made, failed, miserably.

Beno had a great year - his high efficiency play alongside Tyreke allowed Kings to trade Martin.

But, yes, that front court rotation suffers in hindsight.

See but I didn't consider him a gamble, he had a good year, but I felt like I knew what I was going to get with him.

Actually, now that I look at it, I had 4 guys on my roster that made it to the real life NBA Finals, maybe my team didn't do so bad afterall.  Anybody else have a 3rd of their active roster playing in the Finals.  Maybe I really should have won this whole thing