Hindsight on the 2009 CB Draft

[Rondo2287]

Toronto Raptors (Rondo2287)-Andre Miller, Francisco Garcia, Ron Artest, Kevin Garnett, Marcus Camby, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Michael Finley, JJ Barea, Marco Belinelli, Hakim Warrick, Eric Maynor, Taylor Griffin


Looking Back im not sure this team differs so much from the 2010 Celtics.  A Team that would probably be medicore in the regular season but be extremely dangerous in the playoffs.  

Great Defense, Veteran halfcourt team.  

Guys that had good to decent years - Miller, Artest, garnett, Camby, Barea, Warrikc, Maynor, Belinelli

Guys that had bad years, Garcia, Big Z and Finley

[wdleehi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VastXQ_hPb0


 

[Kwhit10]

After seeing how the real 2009-2010 season played out, I think my team overacheived getting to the ECF.

Carmelo Anthony, Andrew Bynum, Baron Davis, Emeka Okafor, Ronnie Brewer, Anthony Parker, Renaldo Balkman, Janerro Pargo, Steve Novak, Joe Smith, Lindsey Hunter, Francisco Elson, Joey Graham, Will Solomon, Tim Thomas.

[Rondo2287]

After seeing how the real 2009-2010 season played out, I think my team overacheived getting to the ECF.

Carmelo Anthony, Andrew Bynum, Baron Davis, Emeka Okafor, Ronnie Brewer, Anthony Parker, Renaldo Balkman, Janerro Pargo, Steve Novak, Joe Smith, Lindsey Hunter, Francisco Elson, Joey Graham, Will Solomon, Tim Thomas.

I love your frontcourt though, Emeka and Bynum is beastly.  Especially after seeing bynum this year

[Kwhit10]

My bench was also suspect.

[Roy Hobbs]

The only relevant hindsight from last year is that people got *way* too carried away with the competitive aspect of the draft.  Hopefully, that will be dampened this year.

(Oh, and the best team won last year, too. )

[Evantime34]

Nash/House/Tinsley
Evans/Maggette/Udoka
Deng/Kapono/DeRozan
Boozer/Gallanari/Hayes
Okur/Diop/Williams

I was the 7th seed in the West but looking back my team was better than that.

Evan's and Gallanari ended up being much better than most people would have guessed. DeRozan also is going to be a player. This team would have been fun to watch when they went small with Boozer moving to the 5 and Gallanari hitting 3's at the 4.

[ChampKind]

C  - Andrew Bogut, Andrey Blatche, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
PF - David West, Carl Landry, Ike Diogu
SF - Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Brandon Rush, Joe Alexander
SG - Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Charlie Bell,
PG - Devin Harris, Sweet Lou Williams, Kyle Weaver

My mid-round pickups of Landry, Crawford (and they said he couldn't be a 6th man on a winning team...), and Blatche really stacked this team with depth, and Bogut's great season helped too. Although with the lack of a legit star this team probably doesn't get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, but they're built a lot like this year's actually Milwaukee Bucks.

I think they get higher than an 8 seed, although I can't remember who I had to run against in a vote-off. I definitely don't remember page after page of propaganda passively sniping at my team or anything like that.

[Gainesville Celtic]

The only relevant hindsight from last year is that people got *way* too carried away with the competitive aspect of the draft.  Hopefully, that will be dampened this year.

(Oh, and the best team won last year, too. )

I'll co-sign that first part Roy... only the first part  

I regret dredging up 2009 in my post in the 2010 thread, other than to point out what I think Roy's done in the first point here:

we all think our teams are the best --- but I'd hope that we'd all recognize that we really are just guessing. Injuries and bad play turn the best of teams into pumpkins throughout the season.

Let's have some ubuntu, y'all!

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Kirk Hinrich / Sebastian Telfair / Ty Lawson
Jason Richardson / Aaron Afflalo / Damien Wilkins
Lebron James / Dominic McGuire / Trenton Hassell
Charlie Villanueva / Anderson Varejao / Darrell Arthur
Marc Gasol / Jeff Foster / Joel Anthony


IMO -- of our top 10 rotation guys, Villanueva and Foster were the biggest duds on our team; Anthony, Afflalo and Lawson were pleasant additions. Lawson woulda moved up and beat out Telfair for the backup PG spot.

4 of our 5 starters were who we thought they were -- Lebron, Hinrich, JRich, M.Gasol.

Ubuntu, y'a11!

[Fafnir]

C  - Andrew Bogut, Andrey Blatche, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
PF - David West, Carl Landry, Ike Diogu
SF - Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Brandon Rush, Joe Alexander
SG - Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Charlie Bell,
PG - Devin Harris, Sweet Lou Williams, Kyle Weaver

My mid-round pickups of Landry, Crawford (and they said he couldn't be a 6th man on a winning team...), and Blatche really stacked this team with depth, and Bogut's great season helped too. Although with the lack of a legit star this team probably doesn't get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, but they're built a lot like this year's actually Milwaukee Bucks.

I think they get higher than an 8 seed, although I can't remember who I had to run against in a vote-off. I definitely don't remember page after page of propaganda passively sniping at my team or anything like that.

Blantche isn't depth. He sucks unless he's "the man" and even then sucks when his coach asks him to play defense.

[Rondo2287]

The only relevant hindsight from last year is that people got *way* too carried away with the competitive aspect of the draft.  Hopefully, that will be dampened this year.

(Oh, and the best team won last year, too. )

I'll co-sign that first part Roy... only the first part 

I regret dredging up 2009 in my post in the 2010 thread, other than to point out what I think Roy's done in the first point here:

we all think our teams are the best --- but I'd hope that we'd all recognize that we really are just guessing. Injuries and bad play turn the best of teams into pumpkins throughout the season.

Let's have some ubuntu, y'all!

---------------


Kirk Hinrich / Sebastian Telfair / Ty Lawson
Jason Richardson / Aaron Afflalo / Damien Wilkins
Lebron James / Dominic McGuire / Trenton Hassell
Charlie Villanueva / Anderson Varejao / Darrell Arthur
Marc Gasol / Jeff Foster / Joel Anthony


IMO -- of our top 10 rotation guys, Villanueva and Foster were the biggest duds on our team; Anthony, Afflalo and Lawson were pleasant additions. Lawson woulda moved up and beat out Telfair for the backup PG spot.

4 of our 5 starters were who we thought they were -- Lebron, Hinrich, JRich, M.Gasol.

Ubuntu, y'a11!

As somebody that was vouching for Afflalo all summer but couldnt sell him to the committee i was very happy to seehim do well.

[Kwhit10]

The only relevant hindsight from last year is that people got *way* too carried away with the competitive aspect of the draft.  Hopefully, that will be dampened this year.

(Oh, and the best team won last year, too. )

I'll co-sign that first part Roy... only the first part 

I regret dredging up 2009 in my post in the 2010 thread, other than to point out what I think Roy's done in the first point here:

we all think our teams are the best --- but I'd hope that we'd all recognize that we really are just guessing. Injuries and bad play turn the best of teams into pumpkins throughout the season.

Let's have some ubuntu, y'all!

---------------


Kirk Hinrich / Sebastian Telfair / Ty Lawson
Jason Richardson / Aaron Afflalo / Damien Wilkins
Lebron James / Dominic McGuire / Trenton Hassell
Charlie Villanueva / Anderson Varejao / Darrell Arthur
Marc Gasol / Jeff Foster / Joel Anthony


IMO -- of our top 10 rotation guys, Villanueva and Foster were the biggest duds on our team; Anthony, Afflalo and Lawson were pleasant additions. Lawson woulda moved up and beat out Telfair for the backup PG spot.

4 of our 5 starters were who we thought they were -- Lebron, Hinrich, JRich, M.Gasol.

Ubuntu, y'a11!

As somebody that was vouching for Afflalo all summer but couldnt sell him to the committee i was very happy to seehim do well.

So are you saving a spot on your squad this year for Arenas again? 

That whole thing stirred a lot of stuff up.

[Roy Hobbs]

So, the original starting lineup was:

C: Shaquille O'Neal / Brad Miller
PF:  Jermaine O'Neal / Ronny Turiaf / Taj Gibson
SF:  Rashard Lewis / Ryan Gomes / Jared Dudley / Quinton Ross
SG:  Michael Redd / Manu Ginobili / Carlos Delfino
PG:  Mike Bibby / Delonte West / Jrue Holiday

By the end of the year, that lineup probably looked more like this:

C: Shaq / J.O. / Miller / Turiaf
PF: Lewis / Gibson
SF: Dudley / Gomes / Ross
SG: Manu / Delfino / (Redd)
PG: Bibby / Delonte / Holiday

Obviously, depth and late-round drafting helped this team.  Delfino, Dudley, Gibson, and Holiday all performed well above most people's expectations.  This is still the deepest and most-versatile team in the draft.

[Rondo2287]

The only relevant hindsight from last year is that people got *way* too carried away with the competitive aspect of the draft.  Hopefully, that will be dampened this year.

(Oh, and the best team won last year, too. )

I'll co-sign that first part Roy... only the first part 

I regret dredging up 2009 in my post in the 2010 thread, other than to point out what I think Roy's done in the first point here:

we all think our teams are the best --- but I'd hope that we'd all recognize that we really are just guessing. Injuries and bad play turn the best of teams into pumpkins throughout the season.

Let's have some ubuntu, y'all!

---------------


Kirk Hinrich / Sebastian Telfair / Ty Lawson
Jason Richardson / Aaron Afflalo / Damien Wilkins
Lebron James / Dominic McGuire / Trenton Hassell
Charlie Villanueva / Anderson Varejao / Darrell Arthur
Marc Gasol / Jeff Foster / Joel Anthony


IMO -- of our top 10 rotation guys, Villanueva and Foster were the biggest duds on our team; Anthony, Afflalo and Lawson were pleasant additions. Lawson woulda moved up and beat out Telfair for the backup PG spot.

4 of our 5 starters were who we thought they were -- Lebron, Hinrich, JRich, M.Gasol.

Ubuntu, y'a11!

As somebody that was vouching for Afflalo all summer but couldnt sell him to the committee i was very happy to seehim do well.

So are you saving a spot on your squad this year for Arenas again? 

That whole thing stirred a lot of stuff up.

Hey Gilbert was solid before the Gun Incident.  Which never would have happened in the Toronto Locker room.  Kg would never have put up with that!

[ChampKind]

C  - Andrew Bogut, Andrey Blatche, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
PF - David West, Carl Landry, Ike Diogu
SF - Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Brandon Rush, Joe Alexander
SG - Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Charlie Bell,
PG - Devin Harris, Sweet Lou Williams, Kyle Weaver

My mid-round pickups of Landry, Crawford (and they said he couldn't be a 6th man on a winning team...), and Blatche really stacked this team with depth, and Bogut's great season helped too. Although with the lack of a legit star this team probably doesn't get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs, but they're built a lot like this year's actually Milwaukee Bucks.

I think they get higher than an 8 seed, although I can't remember who I had to run against in a vote-off. I definitely don't remember page after page of propaganda passively sniping at my team or anything like that.

Blantche isn't depth. He sucks unless he's "the man" and even then sucks when his coach asks him to play defense.

10/5 in a backup role, even if he was a terrible defender. He got by fine as a backup in Washington in limited minutes sheerly through his offense. Solid scoring/rebounding rates and a PER that makes him one of the more solid backup big men. He's a headcase and a petulant child on the court, but he's talented and a good insurance option.