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Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2010, 08:56:59 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

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Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2010, 08:58:33 PM »

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I was stunned when Danny got Garnett for nothing.

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Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2010, 09:16:26 PM »

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I was stunned when Danny got Garnett for nothing.

If Chris Paul lands in Boston, the surprise would be about tripled.

Love your comments, Coach.

Just made me think of the least productive players/contracts we have (to give up as near to nothing as we can).  I think Sheed's Ghost, Perk (who would fit worse with Paul than Rondo), and BBD (from Louisiana) plus future 1st rounders would provide cap relief they presumably need to rebuild.  They'd have picks for the future, a hometown guy in BBD, and the Bird Rights to Perk, who may either expire or whatever, and the immediate relief of Sheed's deal.  Heck, give them Harangatang to fill in behind David West just for kicks.

Yeah, everyone can bash me, but I don't really think that Danny would stay up all night crying about having two of the best PG's in the game.  It would work itself out.  After all, it's my fantasy, and there are always happy endings in my fantasies... ;D

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2010, 09:32:14 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.


Agreed.


As I said before, we hope Rondo improves into a player closer to what Paul is now.


What is Paul then going to improve to?

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #94 on: July 22, 2010, 09:54:56 PM »

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Paul


is better than



Rondo

...but barely  ;)

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #95 on: July 22, 2010, 10:13:41 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.

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« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2010, 10:16:37 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.


How do we know Rondo is further away?

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2010, 10:17:06 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

Rondo has more room for improvement, I suppose.

It sure is hard to tell the difference between stars and superstars, isn't it?

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2010, 10:18:09 PM »

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You watched Rondo shoot the basketball?

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Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2010, 10:35:14 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.


How do we know Rondo is further away?

  After all the posts last summer about how Danny shouldn't sign Rondo to an extension because it was likely he would regress as a player during the 09-10 season, I'll pass on this one. If you think that Rondo's going to improve less than Paul based on what you've seen of them over the last few years then we'll just have to disagree on the issue.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2010, 10:52:21 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.


How do we know Rondo is further away?

  After all the posts last summer about how Danny shouldn't sign Rondo to an extension because it was likely he would regress as a player during the 09-10 season, I'll pass on this one. If you think that Rondo's going to improve less than Paul based on what you've seen of them over the last few years then we'll just have to disagree on the issue.


I didn't say Paul would improve more then Rondo.


I said how do we know who will improve more.


You might think Rondo because he has a lot more skills that are lower then Pauls (shooting and TOs)


But we do not know. 

So it is pointless to throw that out there as an argument of who the Celtics should want. 



Two young players (9 months apart).  One of them is better now.  The other, we hope reaches close to the 1st level. 

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2010, 11:00:32 PM »

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Something else I just thought about - I can see Rondo retiring as a Celtic. As quirky as he is at times, his love and appreciation for this team will keep him here, by his choice.

Chris Paul? Yes he is a Great Talent, but I just don't see his type of dedication to us for the long haul.

Rondo will be here for the rebuilding process, and beyond - and it will be his choice unless he's traded. He won't pull a Lebron on us.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2010, 11:03:35 PM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.


How do we know Rondo is further away?

  After all the posts last summer about how Danny shouldn't sign Rondo to an extension because it was likely he would regress as a player during the 09-10 season, I'll pass on this one. If you think that Rondo's going to improve less than Paul based on what you've seen of them over the last few years then we'll just have to disagree on the issue.


I didn't say Paul would improve more then Rondo.


I said how do we know who will improve more.


You might think Rondo because he has a lot more skills that are lower then Pauls (shooting and TOs)


But we do not know. 

So it is pointless to throw that out there as an argument of who the Celtics should want. 



Two young players (9 months apart).  One of them is better now.  The other, we hope reaches close to the 1st level. 

  I didn't say Rondo WOULD improve more. I clearly said it was my opinion. I don't think it's pointless to talk about  because I think it's extremely likely.

  But what about all the other things we don't know? We don't know that Paul will be healthy over the next couple of years when he's coming back from injury.

  And obviously we don't *know* that the offense will be any better with CP at pg than Rondo. Wasn't it equally silly for people to throw that out as an argument of who the Celts should want?

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2010, 01:29:56 AM »

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One other thing people might not be aware of:  Rondo is only nine months younger than Paul.  For people who say that Rondo can improve...  so can Paul.

  While this is true, I'd expect more improvement from Rondo because IMO he was farther from his ceiling last year than Paul was. A lot of it depends on how well the big three play, however. Rondo's clearly capable of scoring at least 16-18 points a game but he'd just as soon keep the big three involved in the game as carve out a bigger role on offense for himself.


How do we know Rondo is further away?

  After all the posts last summer about how Danny shouldn't sign Rondo to an extension because it was likely he would regress as a player during the 09-10 season, I'll pass on this one. If you think that Rondo's going to improve less than Paul based on what you've seen of them over the last few years then we'll just have to disagree on the issue.


I didn't say Paul would improve more then Rondo.


I said how do we know who will improve more.


You might think Rondo because he has a lot more skills that are lower then Pauls (shooting and TOs)


But we do not know. 

So it is pointless to throw that out there as an argument of who the Celtics should want. 



Two young players (9 months apart).  One of them is better now.  The other, we hope reaches close to the 1st level. 

  I didn't say Rondo WOULD improve more. I clearly said it was my opinion. I don't think it's pointless to talk about  because I think it's extremely likely.

  But what about all the other things we don't know? We don't know that Paul will be healthy over the next couple of years when he's coming back from injury.

  And obviously we don't *know* that the offense will be any better with CP at pg than Rondo. Wasn't it equally silly for people to throw that out as an argument of who the Celts should want?


No.  If one player is better then the other, why wouldn't you want the other player?

Is Rondo going to be healthy over the next couple of years?  He takes more big hits then most guys his size.   

Again, we do not know.  Neither has had a recurring injury. 

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #104 on: July 23, 2010, 01:36:55 AM »

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