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Paul is better than Rondo
« on: July 22, 2010, 10:38:32 AM »

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Plain and simple he is a better player. Quickness is similar, much better jump shooter, can defend NEARLY as well.

Paul 08-09 Peak year: 22pts 11asts 5.6rbs 2.8steals. 50%FG 86%FT. 36%3P

Rondo 09-10 Peak year: 13.7pts 9.8asts 4.4rbs 2.3steals. 50FG% 62FT% 21%3P

I love Rajon but as the Big 3 age even more the PG spot needs to score more and Paul will be better off doing that.

If you can get him do it, as he would make Boston an even more viable place for stars to come.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 10:41:59 AM »

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In other news, Michael Jordan in his prime was better than Paul Pierce in his.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 10:48:30 AM »

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Rajon bring more intangible to the game. I rather keep Rajon Celtic fanS be happy we dont need a PG, WE NEED A SG AND SF.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 11:01:04 AM »

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I agree Paul is better than Rondo but that's pretty obvious considering he's among the top 2 PG's in the NBA.  It's debatable if Rondo is in the top 5 let alone contending for best in the NBA.  At this point in their career Derron Williams is also better. 

I think it's obvious the PG's who are above Rondo at this point Paul, Williams and Nash.  After that its debatable.  Soon I might even add Curry to that list. 

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 11:10:02 AM »

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Rondo, top 5 PG.



Paul, top 5 player.



You can build around Paul better then Rondo.


And (mind you, I love Rondo) would Paul have more "intangibles" if he was playing with the talent level of the Celtics?

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2010, 11:10:22 AM »

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I agree that Paul is better than Rondo.  But a few things to consider:

1) Can Rondo eventually be better than Paul?  

2) How much more than Rondo would we have to give up to get Paul?

3) Can Paul seamlessly transition in to this club this year and win a title THIS year?  

4) Will Paul stay here beyond 2012?  

Number 1 no one really knows.  I'd probably say no, but you never know.  

Number 2 is tough.  Outside of Baby or Perk, what else would they really want?  

Number 3 is extremely important, as if we don't win a title this year, we very well may end up being New Orleans in a couple of years.

Which leads to question 4, being that while the Summer of 2012 could be the summer that Paul lobbies for someone to join him in Boston, it could also be the summer he pulls a LeBron and jets to NY or elsewhere.  

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 11:15:14 AM »

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In other news, Michael Jordan in his prime was better than Paul Pierce in his.
Yeah he was but Paul wasn't a slouch he can score with the best of them.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 11:19:05 AM »

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Rajon bring more intangible to the game. I rather keep Rajon Celtic fanS be happy we dont need a PG, WE NEED A SG AND SF.

Sorry Paul has many more "intagibles" than Rondo. There is a reason Rondo butted heads with every coach he had. Paul would fit in just fine and in fact better than Rondo.

We have a SG and a SF. Pierce and Allen or maybe you havent heard. We just need backups for them which can and will be found. Paul makes the overall talent on the team better and that is every GMs goal.

P.S. I'm a Kentucky fan and HUGE Rondo fan but also a realist.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 11:22:08 AM »

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Plain and simple he is a better player. Quickness is similar, much better jump shooter, can defend NEARLY as well.

Paul 08-09 Peak year: 22pts 11asts 5.6rbs 2.8steals. 50%FG 86%FT. 36%3P

Rondo 09-10 Peak year: 13.7pts 9.8asts 4.4rbs 2.3steals. 50FG% 62FT% 21%3P

I love Rajon but as the Big 3 age even more the PG spot needs to score more and Paul will be better off doing that.

If you can get him do it, as he would make Boston an even more viable place for stars to come.

There is no doubt that Paul is a better talent but Rondo is a better team fit here. My main reason for wanting to keep Rondo is that you can't build around Paul nearly as easily. There's this thing people keep forgetting about called a salary cap and Paul chews up a lot more of it. The price Rondo currently has for 5 years is significantly easier to build around and for that reason alone I'll keep Rondo. Plus Rondo has the balls to win unlike Paul. Ever notice how Rondo always hits at the buzzer even though he's not that great a shooter? Balls.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 11:23:05 AM »

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Plain and simple he is a better player. Quickness is similar, much better jump shooter, can defend NEARLY as well.

Paul 08-09 Peak year: 22pts 11asts 5.6rbs 2.8steals. 50%FG 86%FT. 36%3P

Rondo 09-10 Peak year: 13.7pts 9.8asts 4.4rbs 2.3steals. 50FG% 62FT% 21%3P

I love Rajon but as the Big 3 age even more the PG spot needs to score more and Paul will be better off doing that.

If you can get him do it, as he would make Boston an even more viable place for stars to come.

There is no doubt that Paul is a better talent but Rondo is a better team fit here. My main reason for wanting to keep Rondo is that you can't build around Paul nearly as easily. There's this thing people keep forgetting about called a salary cap and Paul chews up a lot more of it. The price Rondo currently has for 5 years is significantly easier to build around and for that reason alone I'll keep Rondo. Plus Rondo has the balls to win unlike Paul. Ever notice how Rondo always hits at the buzzer even though he's not that great a shooter? Balls.


It is always easier to build a winner around better talent. 

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 11:23:50 AM »

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Rondo is going to be a Celtic great he shouldnt be a trade option, tell me you guys are not turning your backs on the young stud because of Paul is pulling a LEBRICK. If Rondo could read this blog He'll probably would be like WOW REALLY? Now I want out on Boston. You guys need to trade me for Talfair, all becasue you dont appreciate what you have. I'm a big Celtic fan and it bothers me when we cry over things that are not important. A pg? No we need a SG and SF point blank. I'm not with swaping a double double point guard with good defense for a nother double double guard with no d piont blank.

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 11:24:59 AM »

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Plain and simple he is a better player. Quickness is similar, much better jump shooter, can defend NEARLY as well.

Paul 08-09 Peak year: 22pts 11asts 5.6rbs 2.8steals. 50%FG 86%FT. 36%3P

Rondo 09-10 Peak year: 13.7pts 9.8asts 4.4rbs 2.3steals. 50FG% 62FT% 21%3P

I love Rajon but as the Big 3 age even more the PG spot needs to score more and Paul will be better off doing that.

If you can get him do it, as he would make Boston an even more viable place for stars to come.

I think Paul is better than Rondo, but it's not quite as big a gap as those stats make out.  Paul dominates NO in a way that Rondo doesn't and shouldn't dominate in Boston.

Mike

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 11:27:16 AM »

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3) Can Paul seamlessly transition in to this club this year and win a title THIS year?   
I have no issues here. I think Paul would fit in beautifully + he'd make Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett and Glen Davis more effective. I think those guys would play better alongside a ball-dominant PG like Paul who puts them in more positions where they are finishers rather than being asked to create (especially KG + BBD).

Plus, I would actually like the Jermaine O'Neal signing! So long as Doc doesn't ask him to post up and Jermaine stays in his little box waiting for Chris Paul to pass him the ball right beside the hoop for an easy layup. The addition of Chris Paul could make Jermaine O'Neal an effective offensive player.

The only guy who wouldn't make a perfect transition to playing with Paul versus Rondo is Paul Pierce. That is no harm though because Pierce has declined considerably. They would find their balance over the course of the regular season though ... Pierce would be better off for having a guy like Chris Paul in the long run. He's intelligent enough to find and take advantage of the new opportunities CP3 would create.

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 11:27:50 AM »

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Plain and simple he is a better player. Quickness is similar, much better jump shooter, can defend NEARLY as well.

Paul 08-09 Peak year: 22pts 11asts 5.6rbs 2.8steals. 50%FG 86%FT. 36%3P

Rondo 09-10 Peak year: 13.7pts 9.8asts 4.4rbs 2.3steals. 50FG% 62FT% 21%3P

I love Rajon but as the Big 3 age even more the PG spot needs to score more and Paul will be better off doing that.

If you can get him do it, as he would make Boston an even more viable place for stars to come.

There is no doubt that Paul is a better talent but Rondo is a better team fit here. My main reason for wanting to keep Rondo is that you can't build around Paul nearly as easily. There's this thing people keep forgetting about called a salary cap and Paul chews up a lot more of it. The price Rondo currently has for 5 years is significantly easier to build around and for that reason alone I'll keep Rondo. Plus Rondo has the balls to win unlike Paul. Ever notice how Rondo always hits at the buzzer even though he's not that great a shooter? Balls.

Yeah Rondo is a soldier man. He is not scared to compete against the best plus he believe he is the best.


It is always easier to build a winner around better talent. 

Re: Paul is better than Rondo
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 11:29:44 AM »

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No one, and I mean NO ONE, is a bigger Rondo fan than I am. He is rapidly becoming my favorite Celtic ever and I've been a fan since 1965.

But I'd trade him for Paul in a heartbeat. The range and consistency of Paul's shot would make the Celtics nearly un stoppable and his defense is nearly as good.

The only negative would be the contract but that doesn't matter to me because I want to win in 2011.