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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1020 on: October 16, 2018, 05:04:14 PM »

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The site has to have advertising revenue. I think everyone would like an exact replica of the last site but I can understand that sacrifices will need to be made so advertising can have it's space.

For sure, I'm just suggesting cannibalizing the Community and Fantasy menus, I pretty much keep those minimized anyway. Or maybe just making Latest Discussions expandable or pageable.

We're definitely open to suggestions, and probably you will see things change periodically as we experiment. That said, it's very difficult to get ads to perform at all on a forum so while I try to keep them tasteful (e.g. NBA on a basketball forum) they probably will get prime real estate from time to time.

The community and fantasy panels, we're hoping to add more structure to those and make them more useful. More official fantasy leagues, community events, game threads always highlighted etc so that new people always see the key stuff.

That said, I could probably bump back up the number of latest posts as things develop. I appreciate the feedback.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1021 on: October 16, 2018, 06:14:36 PM »

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The site has to have advertising revenue. I think everyone would like an exact replica of the last site but I can understand that sacrifices will need to be made so advertising can have it's space.

For sure, I'm just suggesting cannibalizing the Community and Fantasy menus, I pretty much keep those minimized anyway. Or maybe just making Latest Discussions expandable or pageable.

We're definitely open to suggestions, and probably you will see things change periodically as we experiment. That said, it's very difficult to get ads to perform at all on a forum so while I try to keep them tasteful (e.g. NBA on a basketball forum) they probably will get prime real estate from time to time.

The community and fantasy panels, we're hoping to add more structure to those and make them more useful. More official fantasy leagues, community events, game threads always highlighted etc so that new people always see the key stuff.

That said, I could probably bump back up the number of latest posts as things develop. I appreciate the feedback.

Sure thing, I know we've gotta balance a lot of interests and a looming one is revenue. Just expressing my preference - some kind of way to see more of the latest topics, even if it was just a link to a bigger list or something would help me keep track of things a little better. Appreciate all the work you and other folks have done in this transition.


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That said, it's very difficult to get ads to perform at all on a forum so while I try to keep them tasteful (e.g. NBA on a basketball forum) they probably will get prime real estate from time to time.

Something you've probably thought of but daily fantasy sites? Preferably of the basketball kind of course.  Or custom/niche merch sites.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1022 on: November 05, 2018, 11:50:04 AM »

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Thanks very much for expanding the Discussion box!  Definitely did not go unnoticed or unappreciated. We have so much more room for activities!

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1023 on: November 05, 2018, 05:21:04 PM »

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Thanks guys. Definitely listening. We've got a DraftKings promo going now, unfortunately their banners are all football this time of year but I started setting up a basketball league as well for invite-only CelticsStrong-ers who are interested:

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1024 on: November 13, 2018, 07:54:32 AM »

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I would like to know why Roy H is allowed to label Kanye's critics "Democratic Party Shills" but I am not allowed to list clear progressive beliefs of the progressive wing of the Democratic party, and why I got a warning, but he did not.

I was publicly accused of "labeling in a broad brush" and was told if I didn't like it to privately disagree or to comply and then bring it up procedurally in an entirely different thread. And yet Roy was not labeling with a broad brush?

I consider this an obviously targeted double standard and request an explanation/clarification and an apology.

Further......before mods continue to threaten to remove people from things, many of whom donated to this page, I think it would behoove them to realize who the owner of this site is, and is not, and to realize this page now has a monetary component. I hope they have checked with byennie and his partner about his vision for a business model and whether or not it's appropriate going forward to threaten to remove eyeballs from a site that relies on them for advertising.


Perhaps it would make sense for byennie and/or his partner to review the rules and re endorse them or edit/revise them as he thinks he may need to. Perhaps that should be annual.

I think this is a very fair question.  While I disagree with 95% of Eja's statements I wholeheartedly support his right to say them.

Silencing discent regarding law is the first move of autocrats and dictators.  ESPECIALLY troubling is that when Eja questioned how his behavior was different than that of moderators he was threatened with banishment from this site.  This in my opinion was a blatant abuse of the powers of moderation and is worthy of censure. 








 

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1025 on: November 13, 2018, 08:00:39 AM »

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Sure thing, I know we've gotta balance a lot of interests and a looming one is revenue. Just expressing my preference - some kind of way to see more of the latest topics, even if it was just a link to a bigger list or something would help me keep track of things a little better. Appreciate all the work you and other folks have done in this transition.

How about taking personal responsibility for this and google Celtics news by yourself.   It is what I do and it does not take much time without adding the responsibilities to folks that run this wonderful blog and are not paid help.

Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1026 on: November 13, 2018, 09:44:27 AM »

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Sure thing, I know we've gotta balance a lot of interests and a looming one is revenue. Just expressing my preference - some kind of way to see more of the latest topics, even if it was just a link to a bigger list or something would help me keep track of things a little better. Appreciate all the work you and other folks have done in this transition.

How about taking personal responsibility for this and google Celtics news by yourself.   It is what I do and it does not take much time without adding the responsibilities to folks that run this wonderful blog and are not paid help.

That's not what he's asking for. He's saying he wants to see more of which topics are most recently active. Not the most recent celtics news (although that would be a big part of any celtics fan site).

And, if you read further on, they did it. So thanks again to Byennie and like..whoever else is doing that stuff.

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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1027 on: November 13, 2018, 11:13:10 AM »

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I would like to know why Roy H is allowed to label Kanye's critics "Democratic Party Shills" but I am not allowed to list clear progressive beliefs of the progressive wing of the Democratic party, and why I got a warning, but he did not.

I was publicly accused of "labeling in a broad brush" and was told if I didn't like it to privately disagree or to comply and then bring it up procedurally in an entirely different thread. And yet Roy was not labeling with a broad brush?

I consider this an obviously targeted double standard and request an explanation/clarification and an apology.

Further......before mods continue to threaten to remove people from things, many of whom donated to this page, I think it would behoove them to realize who the owner of this site is, and is not, and to realize this page now has a monetary component. I hope they have checked with byennie and his partner about his vision for a business model and whether or not it's appropriate going forward to threaten to remove eyeballs from a site that relies on them for advertising.


Perhaps it would make sense for byennie and/or his partner to review the rules and re endorse them or edit/revise them as he thinks he may need to. Perhaps that should be annual.

I think this is a very fair question.  While I disagree with 95% of Eja's statements I wholeheartedly support his right to say them.

Silencing discent regarding law is the first move of autocrats and dictators.  ESPECIALLY troubling is that when Eja questioned how his behavior was different than that of moderators he was threatened with banishment from this site.  This in my opinion was a blatant abuse of the powers of moderation and is worthy of censure. 








 

With all due respect, I can assure you that there was way more to that situation & poster than what posters saw in this thread.

We've lived with a set of posting guidelines for over a decade now.  When posters decide to join & post on, first CB, & now CS, they are expected abide by them.   If people don't like the guidelines, they are free to post elsewhere. 

If they violate those guidelines, there are going to be ramifications.


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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1028 on: November 13, 2018, 11:44:39 AM »

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I would like to know why Roy H is allowed to label Kanye's critics "Democratic Party Shills" but I am not allowed to list clear progressive beliefs of the progressive wing of the Democratic party, and why I got a warning, but he did not.

I was publicly accused of "labeling in a broad brush" and was told if I didn't like it to privately disagree or to comply and then bring it up procedurally in an entirely different thread. And yet Roy was not labeling with a broad brush?

I consider this an obviously targeted double standard and request an explanation/clarification and an apology.

Further......before mods continue to threaten to remove people from things, many of whom donated to this page, I think it would behoove them to realize who the owner of this site is, and is not, and to realize this page now has a monetary component. I hope they have checked with byennie and his partner about his vision for a business model and whether or not it's appropriate going forward to threaten to remove eyeballs from a site that relies on them for advertising.


Perhaps it would make sense for byennie and/or his partner to review the rules and re endorse them or edit/revise them as he thinks he may need to. Perhaps that should be annual.

I think this is a very fair question.  While I disagree with 95% of Eja's statements I wholeheartedly support his right to say them.

Silencing discent regarding law is the first move of autocrats and dictators.  ESPECIALLY troubling is that when Eja questioned how his behavior was different than that of moderators he was threatened with banishment from this site.  This in my opinion was a blatant abuse of the powers of moderation and is worthy of censure. 

To be clear, the “abuse of power” was:

1. nick enforcing our written rules;
2. citing those rules;
3. reminding a poster that he’s allowed to publicly disagree with the rules, but must do it in this thread

Also, Eja was given multiple explanations. He just felt like blowing a gasket.


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Re: Open Thread on Rules/Restrictions
« Reply #1029 on: November 13, 2018, 01:15:50 PM »

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And to be completely clear here, this is obviously against the rules of the CE Forum:

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To be a woke leftist you have to be anti capitalist, anti family, anti unborn baby, anti traditional marriage, anti Christian, anti white cis gender male, and you definitely have to be anti-non violent. And you have to believe only certain authorities on the left should have guns. They're a step away from Mao's cultural revolution.

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Also, Roy's use of the term Democratic shills was aimed at CNN and their commentators that made the despicable comments towards Kanye. I am liberal and can see that CNN, MSNBC and many radio and you tube channel hosts are Democratic shills. I also believe that Fox and a bunch of radio and you tube hosts are Republican shills.   

Given that this is a definition of a shill there is nothing wrong with what Roy said:

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A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.
If you had read farther you would have seen this explanation

 

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