Who is the better comparison for Avery Bradley, Westbrook or Ellis?

[csfansince60s]

Brandon Jennings (2008) and Kevin Love (2007) were the other two ranked #1 by ESPNU. Their talent is unmistakable. He slipped because he is a tweener and his talents weren't showcased at Texas because of their system (or lack thereof), just like Rondo at KY, and ultimately we will benefit from that. I think he has a good chance at being an impact player, especially because of his D.

[LooseCannon]

How can we compare him/or say who he's like if he never played an NBA game

This is a ridiculous question.  If it is impossible to gather data that allows for such comparisons, then it means that you can't project anyone who has never played an NBA game.  Are you saying that you can't possibly compare any player selected in the 2010 NBA draft to any player who has already played an NBA game?

Also, I'm not saying that Avery Bradley is the next Russell Westbrook or Monta Ellis, I'm saying that those are the players that Bradley's potential is compared to.  If Bradley becomes an above-average NBA starter, then it is possible that he will have strengths similar to one of these players.  I'm asking which profile is more likely if Bradley turns out to be a steal.  And that's the key word: if.

[Kane3387]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

[Rondo_is_better]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Get a mop for that name you just dropped.

[Rondo_is_better]

A poor man's Allen Iverson?

Regular Allen Iverson?

Michael Jordan?

I think you might be into something. Both played college ball. Both were drafted in the 1st round.......

What if he is Michael Jordan

Stats don't lie

[Rondo9dunx]

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I thought the whole knock on Bradley was that he couldn't shoot? His highlights are all dunks and slashing plays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh52bpbfEGQ


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There was only 2 uncontested dunks that almost any college player could have made..but the rest were all jumpshots.. with some slashes thrown in.. Seems like an undersized SG i'd have to say....god I wish he was 2 inches taller

[Andy Jick]

A poor man's Allen Iverson?

Regular Allen Iverson?

Michael Jordan?

I think you might be into something. Both played college ball. Both were drafted in the 1st round.......

What if he is Michael Jordan

Stats don't lie

I'd say a mix of Clyde Drexler with a touch of Isiah Thomas.  But it's hard to say as Avery might be better than those two combined...  I don't know...I've never been so challenged intellectually than the depth of thinking this thread has taken me to.

[LarBrd33]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Nah... he's a 6'2 Brandon Hunter. Guy's a bum.  He'll be a welcome addition to our dleague affiliate, though.

[lon3lytoaster]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Nah... he's a 6'2 Brandon Hunter. Guy's a bum.  He'll be a welcome addition to our dleague affiliate, though.

Do elaborate.

[LarBrd33]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Nah... he's a 6'2 Brandon Hunter. Guy's a bum.  He'll be a welcome addition to our dleague affiliate, though.

Do elaborate.

If he was drafted by any team other than the Celtics... and you saw that team's fanbase comparing him to Avery Bradley and Westbrook... you'd think they were idiots.

[greenhead85]

I'd like to believe that Bradley could be a defensive-minded Steve Francis.

[GreenShooter]

I'd love for Bradley to turn into Monta Ellis.

But right now, I'll have to say he reminds me of Delonte West. Good defender, good shooter, tweener. Bradley is a better athlete but West is a better driver, more aggresive. Bradley is still very young so we shall see.

[nickagneta]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Nah... he's a 6'2 Brandon Hunter. Guy's a bum.  He'll be a welcome addition to our dleague affiliate, though.

Do elaborate.

Why? Did you actually see him play at Texas or follow him in high school?

If he was drafted by any team other than the Celtics... and you saw that team's fanbase comparing him to Avery Bradley and Westbrook... you'd think they were idiots.

[slamtheking]

ideal upside (extreme optimism): a shorter, faster Joe Dumars.  solid D, solid jumper, good character guy and smart player.   

Worst case: Gabe Pruitt.  a player that rarely gets off the bench, shows a little promise here and there and then ends up out of the league in 3 years.

Probable case: He'll be unique.  He'll be fast like Rondo, play solid D like Rondo, shoot better than Rondo but pass/ballhandle worse than Rondo.  hopefully end up shooting FTs better than Rondo.

If he shows as much promise as hyped, I could see him either being the first guard off the bench in the post-big-3 era or Ray's replacement while Danny tries to get a bigger starting SG. 

I anticipate little to no playing time this year.  If he sees the court outside of garbage time it'll either be because he's outplaying even the most hyped expectations and Doc can't justify sitting him (which would be fantastic) OR Danny has botched the bench rebuild and he has to play due to backcourt injuries to Rondo/Ray/Nate and we witness the usual rookie growing pains (which would suck).

[Boris Badenov]

LOL a lot of you posters on here crack me up. Antonio Daniels?! Get off the blog please and actually watch these guys play ball. You must not watch a lot of "used to be Big 12" basketball. What were some other?... Orien Greene? Wow obviously you are someone who only follows the Celtics. Marcus Banks? Tons of people were saying that was a joke pick. That was a reach by Danny and a lot of people knew it.

Westbrook is the best comparison by far. Bradley is a pure athlete, he will get to the rim. Westbrook also lives off his mid-range game. I went to 90% off the Thunder's home games this year. 15-20 feet is his game and it helped that he had Nenad to play pick and pop with because it really opened lanes for him. KG and Jermaine can do that for Avery.

Still to compare a player to a present player is extremely ignorant. The good GMs and scouts don't do this. They don't put a label on guys because it clouds their judgement on prospects and they can fall into giving a guy too low of a ceiling. I know because I was ignorant enough last year to do this with Thabeet when I was talking to Sam Presti and lol he made me feel dumb.

Honestly get rid of the whole who is this guy like thought process. That is for media to get readers, viewers, and listeners. Instead just look at what he consistently does well and what he doesn't and fit those qualities into the team he is playing for.

Poor free throw percentage will hurt any team but Bradley's defense, mid range shooting, and athleticism in transition will help the Celtics a great deal. If Avery can stay away from the injury bug he will be playing more minutes than Nate by the end of the year. I'm telling you the guy has a lot of ability. No doubt in my mind we just got one of the top steals of this year's draft.

Celtics Thug, is that you?