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What if JO shines
« on: July 14, 2010, 08:45:41 PM »

Offline Texstyles

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I know that the Perkins love is huge around here, and we all respect what he has brought to the Celtics,  but what if O'Neal completely shines as the Center of this team.  Defencivly I think he is capeable of bringing the same D that Perkins can bring and on the other end he should be a better option then Perkins is. ( You can not leave him open, like teams would do to Perk.)  I think people got the image of O'Neal from the playoffs.  O'Neal is coming off one of his better season in this league.  He played in 70 games and had the best shooting percentage last year of his career.  So my question is what if him alongside with Garnett is exactly what he needed and he is back to his all star/USA team form.  Its not far fetched, 4 pts 3 reb. and 1 Blk more is possible. Do we bench him for Perkins when he comes back ?  Does that make sence for chemestry ?

I understand he is injury prone, but if he doesn't get hurt and is putting up #'s how do you mess with that. 
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2010, 08:53:36 PM »

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Quote from: Texstyles on July 14, 2010, 08:45:41 PM
I know that the Perkins love is huge around here, and we all respect what he has brought to the Celtics,  but what if O'Neal completely shines as the Center of this team.  Defencivly I think he is capeable of bringing the same D that Perkins can bring and on the other end he should be a better option then Perkins is. ( You can not leave him open, like teams would do to Perk.)  I think people got the image of O'Neal from the playoffs.  O'Neal is coming off one of his better season in this league.  He played in 70 games and had the best shooting percentage last year of his career.  So my question is what if him alongside with Garnett is exactly what he needed and he is back to his all star/USA team form.  Its not far fetched, 4 pts 3 reb. and 1 Blk more is possible. Do we bench him for Perkins when he comes back ?  Does that make sence for chemestry ?

I understand he is injury prone, but if he doesn't get hurt and is putting up #'s how do you mess with that. 

Against smaller centers in the league, I could see JO finishing games so we have another offensive weapon on the floor. Wouldn't be that different compared with how Sheed was used.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 08:57:05 PM »

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I'm ready to kick this season off, real excited about the JO signing I think he'll be re-energized and produce some. As far as replacing Perk in the starting lineup I dont know about that, I think we'll need Perk as starting 5 for the Howards, Bynums etc..
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 08:58:34 PM »

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Quote from: FallGuy on July 14, 2010, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: Texstyles on July 14, 2010, 08:45:41 PM
I know that the Perkins love is huge around here, and we all respect what he has brought to the Celtics,  but what if O'Neal completely shines as the Center of this team.  Defencivly I think he is capeable of bringing the same D that Perkins can bring and on the other end he should be a better option then Perkins is. ( You can not leave him open, like teams would do to Perk.)  I think people got the image of O'Neal from the playoffs.  O'Neal is coming off one of his better season in this league.  He played in 70 games and had the best shooting percentage last year of his career.  So my question is what if him alongside with Garnett is exactly what he needed and he is back to his all star/USA team form.  Its not far fetched, 4 pts 3 reb. and 1 Blk more is possible. Do we bench him for Perkins when he comes back ?  Does that make sence for chemestry ?

I understand he is injury prone, but if he doesn't get hurt and is putting up #'s how do you mess with that. 

Against smaller centers in the league, I could see JO finishing games so we have another offensive weapon on the floor. Wouldn't be that different compared with how Sheed was used.

Against smaller centers in the league, and pretty much most teams in the league, I expect Semih Erden to be playing the whole 4th quarter.
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 09:00:38 PM »

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But seriously, it depends on Perkins' comeback shape in my opinion. We'll have to see where we're at, but I wouldn't discard the option of having JO on the floor when we need points.

Anyone know his off/def rebound numbers?
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 09:01:12 PM »

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I think Perkins come back will be slow as he will have to work himself into game shape. So there will be plenty of minutes for JO.  

That said I think when Perk is ready to contribute he will start.  This allows the C's to set the defensive tone early.  But I see JO on the court to finish close games, if his defense is strong, because he gives them another option on offense and forces them to not let their bigs sag to cover Rondo.  

IMO I see playing time being close to equal for the two of them, with junk/foul trouble minutes going to the 5th big (kwame, erden, thomas ect).    
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 09:25:55 PM »

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If such a player exists and Ainge can swing it, I would be in favor of acquiring a younger, more durable version of Jermaine O'Neal and dumping Perk.
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 09:27:53 PM »

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Quote from: Kiorrik on July 14, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
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What if JO shines


Sunglasses.

But seriously, it depends on Perkins' comeback shape in my opinion. We'll have to see where we're at, but I wouldn't discard the option of having JO on the floor when we need points.

Anyone know his off/def rebound numbers?

What's up, Kiorrik?

I think he can help us on the boards, but Perk will be missed in this category.

But in the meantime, JO won't disappoint in the rebs area - nearly 2 offensive per game, and roughly 7 total in 28 min per game, according to his ESPN player profile.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »

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I think theres a chance JO plays so well that Doc has a tough decision to make once Perk comes back. But maybe KG or JO will be injured by then and then Perk just starts with whoever is healthy. But yes I do think there is a chance JO plays extremely well for this team.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 09:36:10 PM »

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If we are off to a phenomenal start and Perk is just getting back from injury,  Doc wont rock the boat. He will let JO stay in the lineup and Perk could be a defensive boost off the bench. Although it wouldn't really matter who starts, they will split minutes equally.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 09:44:38 PM »

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Why are there two threads with the same hypothetical question that has the same answer of "We'll all be happy"?
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 09:59:13 PM »

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Quote from: GreenFaith1819 on July 14, 2010, 09:27:53 PM
What's up, Kiorrik?

I think he can help us on the boards, but Perk will be missed in this category.

But in the meantime, JO won't disappoint in the rebs area - nearly 2 offensive per game, and roughly 7 total in 28 min per game, according to his ESPN player profile.
's All good matey.

Good, we need rebounds. Especially on offense. We all know Rondo plays best in transition, so this is solid.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 10:22:32 PM »

Offline ralph

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Perk is the man but, last year we thought he was really improving his game, getting 10ppg and 8 rebs. Now perk has lowered his scoring a lot and is catching less rebounds. He gained weight(fact) and his attitude seems to be getting worse.
He knees are also a big question mark.
I don't think Perk can be the center of the future for us any more. I hope DA draft's Fab Melo next year or Donatas Motiejūnas.
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Depends on what kind of shines.....
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 10:26:58 PM »

Offline 17wasEZ

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If it's shoes, I gotta pair that needs some work.
If it's like the sun, then it could get bright (or hot).
If it's his personality, then he'll be loved by teammates as well as the fans.
If it's on the court, then we might be talking Banner #18.
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Re: What if JO shines
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2010, 01:40:05 AM »

Offline jeezem

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You just play the match up that works best, do you see JO shutting down Dwight Howard?
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