Tony To sign with Grizz?

[RJ87]

Really?

Powe's legs are gone. He's done in the league.

I'm not going to panic over losing a guy with no offensive skills whose mental comprehension of the game was spotty. Good defender - not as good as many of you insist - and very replaceable.

I disagree that he's so replaceable given that we only have the vet's minimum to offer to any free agents.

I'm also not that convinced that there's any real promising trades for Sheed's contract at the moment.

As of right now, this is a step back for us.

[Celtics18]

Hopefully, Danny has something up his sleeve.

Or, maybe, Tony . . . Gafney? is going to provide more than any of us could possibly hope for at this stage.

[dlpin]

Dwight Howard will be a free agent. Carmelo is a free agent in 2011. Other than D12, there really aren't any players to build a team around in 2012. Besides, no big free agents, in their prime, have ever came to play basketball in Boston for the Celtics. Free agency is fools gold. Don't be fooled by the Heat. That will never work for the C's.

Mello has a player option for an extra season, so if he exercises that option (which he could very likely do- better than being a FA in a potential lock out year) he'd be a free agent in 2012.

On top of that there's Gerald Wallace (if he doesn't use his player option), Derrick Rose (restricted), Chris Kaman, Mayo (restricted), Kevin Love (restricted), Brook Lopez (restricted), Chris Paul (if he doesnt use his option), Deron Williams (if he doesn't pick up his option), and so on.

[winsomme]

Although TA had probably his best year with the C's this year and did a nice job defensively at times on Kobe, he was once again more miss than hit. He has one of the worst shots at the 2 spot in the entire league. He poses no offensive threat from the outside. He was still turnover prone and at times just a body out there. He also is hurt as much as he is healthy.  Overpaying for TA is not a smart GM move.

Let's not forget that before his surgery Daniels was playing at a very high level and had he not gone down TA never would have gotten those minutes. I am not saying Daniels is the right answer either, but that 3 mil + per year can give us better bang for our buck elsewhere. DA must really like this Bradley kid and think we will get either Nate or House back. Getting one of them and looking for a bit bigger defender makes sense.

This has happened in each of the last three off seasons and each time we don't replace the "easily" replaceable player and it ends up hurting.

In 08 we replaced Posey and PJ Brown with essentially Mikki Moore. In 09 we replaced Leon with Sheldon Williams. and now in 10, we are replacing TA (who did a terrific job in the playoffs), with who? we don't have ways to sign players.....

If we had a Leon on the bench this last post season, it could have been another Title. Who your bench players are is incredibly important in tipping the scales in closely contested playoff series.

[hpantazo]

Although TA had probably his best year with the C's this year and did a nice job defensively at times on Kobe, he was once again more miss than hit. He has one of the worst shots at the 2 spot in the entire league. He poses no offensive threat from the outside. He was still turnover prone and at times just a body out there. He also is hurt as much as he is healthy.  Overpaying for TA is not a smart GM move.

Let's not forget that before his surgery Daniels was playing at a very high level and had he not gone down TA never would have gotten those minutes. I am not saying Daniels is the right answer either, but that 3 mil + per year can give us better bang for our buck elsewhere. DA must really like this Bradley kid and think we will get either Nate or House back. Getting one of them and looking for a bit bigger defender makes sense.

This has happened in each of the last three off seasons and each time we don't replace the "easily" replaceable player and it ends up hurting.

In 08 we replaced Posey and PJ Brown with essentially Mikki Moore. In 09 we replaced Leon with Sheldon Williams. and now in 10, we are replacing TA (who did a terrific job in the playoffs), with who? we don't have ways to sign players.....

If we had a Leon on the bench this last post season, it could have been another Title. Who your bench players are is incredibly important in tipping the scales in closely contested playoff series.

once again, as many others have stated here, what was Leon Powe capable of contributing in 2009? Seriously. Also, we replaced him with Rasheed Wallace, not Shelden Williams. As for Posey, he has been downright awful since leaving the celtics. Letting him go was a great decision. It was not Mikki Moore who replaced him, it was Tony Allen, who could barely stay on the floor and got in some serious legal trouble by having his friends shoot people in chicago.

[winsomme]

Although TA had probably his best year with the C's this year and did a nice job defensively at times on Kobe, he was once again more miss than hit. He has one of the worst shots at the 2 spot in the entire league. He poses no offensive threat from the outside. He was still turnover prone and at times just a body out there. He also is hurt as much as he is healthy.  Overpaying for TA is not a smart GM move.

Let's not forget that before his surgery Daniels was playing at a very high level and had he not gone down TA never would have gotten those minutes. I am not saying Daniels is the right answer either, but that 3 mil + per year can give us better bang for our buck elsewhere. DA must really like this Bradley kid and think we will get either Nate or House back. Getting one of them and looking for a bit bigger defender makes sense.

This has happened in each of the last three off seasons and each time we don't replace the "easily" replaceable player and it ends up hurting.

In 08 we replaced Posey and PJ Brown with essentially Mikki Moore. In 09 we replaced Leon with Sheldon Williams. and now in 10, we are replacing TA (who did a terrific job in the playoffs), with who? we don't have ways to sign players.....

If we had a Leon on the bench this last post season, it could have been another Title. Who your bench players are is incredibly important in tipping the scales in closely contested playoff series.

once again, as many others have stated here, what was Leon Powe capable of contributing in 2009? Seriously. Also, we replaced him with Rasheed Wallace, not Shelden Williams. As for Posey, he has been downright awful since leaving the celtics. Letting him go was a great decision.

That Finals was so closely contested that all it could have taken was a few extra rebounds to have tipped it in our favor. and the fact that Shelden (Leon's replacement) couldn't be counted on hurt when Perk went down. Sheed was toast at the end of game 7. maybe more time on the bench would have kept him fresher for the stretch run. I mean, we were in control of that game. any way you slice it, having a guy that you simply could not put in the game hurt us...

[butterbeanlove]

Thanks Chris Wallace. Thanks a lot.

Are we not sure this guy hasn't secretly been on the Lakers' payroll since 2001?

Curse of the Pillsbury Doughboy. Jesus H.

Well, I'd be willing to give Daniels another shot.

Chris Wallace. Unreal.

[hpantazo]

Although TA had probably his best year with the C's this year and did a nice job defensively at times on Kobe, he was once again more miss than hit. He has one of the worst shots at the 2 spot in the entire league. He poses no offensive threat from the outside. He was still turnover prone and at times just a body out there. He also is hurt as much as he is healthy.  Overpaying for TA is not a smart GM move.

Let's not forget that before his surgery Daniels was playing at a very high level and had he not gone down TA never would have gotten those minutes. I am not saying Daniels is the right answer either, but that 3 mil + per year can give us better bang for our buck elsewhere. DA must really like this Bradley kid and think we will get either Nate or House back. Getting one of them and looking for a bit bigger defender makes sense.

This has happened in each of the last three off seasons and each time we don't replace the "easily" replaceable player and it ends up hurting.

In 08 we replaced Posey and PJ Brown with essentially Mikki Moore. In 09 we replaced Leon with Sheldon Williams. and now in 10, we are replacing TA (who did a terrific job in the playoffs), with who? we don't have ways to sign players.....

If we had a Leon on the bench this last post season, it could have been another Title. Who your bench players are is incredibly important in tipping the scales in closely contested playoff series.

once again, as many others have stated here, what was Leon Powe capable of contributing in 2009? Seriously. Also, we replaced him with Rasheed Wallace, not Shelden Williams. As for Posey, he has been downright awful since leaving the celtics. Letting him go was a great decision.

That Finals was so closely contested that all it could have taken was a few extra rebounds to have tipped it in our favor. and the fact that Shelden (Leon's replacement) couldn't be counted on hurt when Perk went down. Sheed was toast at the end of game 7. maybe more time on the bench would have kept him fresher for the stretch run. I mean, we were in control of that game. any way you slice it, having a guy that you simply could not put in the game hurt us...

yes, Powe and his two bad knees would have really helped to grab some boards and stay in front of people on defense

[Big_Matt34]

Goodbye TA, you will be missed by most. Hard to believe he was the 3rd longest tenured player on the team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSYN4DbituA

[Surferdad]

Maybe Ainge figures Avery Bradley is as good a defender and much better offensive player than Tony.    Like others, I didn't see this coming.  I always liked that knucklehead.

[winsomme]

Although TA had probably his best year with the C's this year and did a nice job defensively at times on Kobe, he was once again more miss than hit. He has one of the worst shots at the 2 spot in the entire league. He poses no offensive threat from the outside. He was still turnover prone and at times just a body out there. He also is hurt as much as he is healthy.  Overpaying for TA is not a smart GM move.

Let's not forget that before his surgery Daniels was playing at a very high level and had he not gone down TA never would have gotten those minutes. I am not saying Daniels is the right answer either, but that 3 mil + per year can give us better bang for our buck elsewhere. DA must really like this Bradley kid and think we will get either Nate or House back. Getting one of them and looking for a bit bigger defender makes sense.

This has happened in each of the last three off seasons and each time we don't replace the "easily" replaceable player and it ends up hurting.

In 08 we replaced Posey and PJ Brown with essentially Mikki Moore. In 09 we replaced Leon with Sheldon Williams. and now in 10, we are replacing TA (who did a terrific job in the playoffs), with who? we don't have ways to sign players.....

If we had a Leon on the bench this last post season, it could have been another Title. Who your bench players are is incredibly important in tipping the scales in closely contested playoff series.

once again, as many others have stated here, what was Leon Powe capable of contributing in 2009? Seriously. Also, we replaced him with Rasheed Wallace, not Shelden Williams. As for Posey, he has been downright awful since leaving the celtics. Letting him go was a great decision.

That Finals was so closely contested that all it could have taken was a few extra rebounds to have tipped it in our favor. and the fact that Shelden (Leon's replacement) couldn't be counted on hurt when Perk went down. Sheed was toast at the end of game 7. maybe more time on the bench would have kept him fresher for the stretch run. I mean, we were in control of that game. any way you slice it, having a guy that you simply could not put in the game hurt us...

yes, Powe and his two bad knees would have really helped to grab some boards and stay in front of people on defense

this is such a frustrating topic to debate because their is no accountability. people said not having Leon would not make a difference. then not having Leon DOES make a difference and people say " it wouldn't have made a difference"....there's no result under which people will admit being incorrect on this topic....

the fact is that it DID make a difference. We lost game 7 because we got killed on the glass. LA had 15 extra possessions in a 4 point game that we controlled throughout until we ran out of gas at the end.

Leon or not, not having another big that we could put in that game hurt us.

people always claim that not having a player down on the depth chart can't possibly be that important and it almost always is......

I had debate after debate about Posey and PJ and Leon on this topic and I was always assured by people that the players were "easily" replaceable and they just weren't.

Once again, I hope that TA is replaced, but my question now is "how"? how do you replace him? Give me some hypotheticals.

[CoachBo]

Really?

Powe's legs are gone. He's done in the league.

I'm not going to panic over losing a guy with no offensive skills whose mental comprehension of the game was spotty. Good defender - not as good as many of you insist - and very replaceable.

I disagree that he's so replaceable given that we only have the vet's minimum to offer to any free agents.

I'm also not that convinced that there's any real promising trades for Sheed's contract at the moment.

As of right now, this is a step back for us.

Ah, Tony Allen leaving isn't ever going to cause me to lose sleep - especially not for 10 large. NO way a guy who can't score the basketball is worth that.

I'm willing to see what Danny has up his sleeve, and Daniels is certainly one possibility given his injury issues last year.

[kozlodoev]

this is such a frustrating topic to debate because their is no accountability. people said not having Leon would not make a difference. then not having Leon DOES make a difference and people say " it wouldn't have made a difference"....there's no result under which people will admit being incorrect on this topic....

Right. The question boils down to whether we should have not had Powe, and paid his salary, too.

He was on a contending team last season, and he didn't make a difference -- both in the regular season, and in the playoffs. Take this for what it's worth.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

When will you realize you can't just go signing the perfect replacements that you want..like go to the player store, ya, they have everything there..ya, the player walmart..cheap too..!  TA did EVERYTHING to get us through the playoffs, took all the hard D assignments, and wasn't involved in many plays for his efforts...not that you can just run and score after covering Wade or Lebron...you think they are going away..haha, they'll be backkkkkk....like double time now......better resign him ...and get ANOTHER like him too....! As it was, HE was the only one willing to run with Rondo..Doc should have tried rondo, nate and TA at once...why...fast, running...as for D...who can dribble around them..how far do you get when you can't dribble...? Pass the ball up, ya, right..college maybe, not the pro's....like trying to get pro's to do the press..hahaha..too lazy and self centered...."I can cover him, just let him get the ball first!".."He won't make that shot from there...!"  As if we haven't seen too much of that....No TA..just put Finley out there.....

[Change]

I don't know why but I'm suddenly sad. Tony, you'll be missed. Ainge give him the third year. Or is it too late now?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xk4rb90MRM