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Offline Drucci

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Obviously, it's hard to say that combining your force with two of the best NBA players who complement your game is the wrong approach.

But I can't help and think that, by trying to emulate what our Big Three did in '07, LeBron, Wade and Bosh are taking the wrong approach.

First of all, they seem to get together to win but also (and especially) because they enjoy each other and are friends. I understand their excitement of teaming up and building a "dream team" but did they really think about what is waiting for them? 5 or 6 years together, during their prime. It won't be a question of friendship anymore but a question of knowing whether or not you can share the spotlights.

I think it's really different from our own Big Three that got together for winning only. They knew each other as veterans but they weren't friends and truly bonded only in Rome during the preseason. They had one goal and put all their forces into it, not caring about stats, individual awards, friendships, etc.

Plus, the age thing is a big factor, of course. You may be willing to sacrifice some of your stats/game when you're young to win a title but do you really want to do for 5 years, during your prime? To it's much easier to do it when you truly have a few runs left and as you're getting too old to play anymore.

Finally, our Big Three made their annoucement together. At the same press conference.

Now I understand that Bosh and Wade had obligations to their camps so they couldn't be together but they did broadcast their announcement together. However, what does this ridiculous LeBron one-hour - but in reality, one day long - TV show tells you? Couldn't he make his announcement with Bosh and Wade, together as the "new" big three? The "He made his choice today only" argument is a lie, they decided to team up some time ago. To me, a guy that puts himself on the frontstage, litterally at the center of all attentions, separately for his soon to be new teammates, isn't sending good vibes at all. We all know LeBron is a team player but still, he is all about hype and himself too.

I don't know, but I feel like these three guys look like 3 teenagers excited to team up as the most popular stars in high school who get along with each other and have one common goal but do not realize the practical difficulties to achieve it and the difference between saying the right things and actually doing them. It's like they've played 6 games/one summer together with team USA, rightfully so loved this experience, and now they think they can duplicate this experience over 82 games for 5 years + the playoffs.

And if it could work for one year I don't see it working for 5 years.

Anyway, my point is that, even when not considering the fact that they don't have any other players and have basically no money, which is a big problem, their issues could be "mental" first and about their egos. What do you guys think?

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I am already sick of hearing about the Miami Heat  ;D

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I think Danny Ainge needs to trademark the term "Big Three". Allowing another franchise to use it seems, I don't know, disrespectful.

Miami Thrice? Tri-ami? The Miami Hype Machine?
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Wow Drucci spot on!  Like all of your posts.  TP.
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I hope you are correct and the entire Miami big 3t eam fails.

However, as noted by another poster, are we fooling ourselves? If these 3 guys were on the celtics, this board would have multiple organisms and be drooling over the upcoming season, as well they should.

Miami is now a danged good team. I think the celtics window for winning a championship is now one year. The heat may take a year to team up and get role players, but they will be killer good soon.

Next year the celtics may beat the heat due to experienced team work and depth. But, though I loath to say it, after that Miami is going to be very, very hard to beat. :(
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I feel several of the same things as Drucci. I'm getting the vibe that the Miami LeBrons think this is going to be (pardon the pun) a slam dunk, that they'll roll over everyone -- or, perhaps more accurately, that everyone will roll over FOR them. Bring it on, I say. Bring it on, Miami. Let's see if your yet-to-be-named point guard can handle Rondo. Let's see if your as-yet-unknown center can bang with KG and JO and Perk. Let's see if Bosh has any toughness. Let's see if LeBron can avoid choking again when it counts, and if Wade can handle the suffocating Boston TEAM defense. I'm pumped. Heck, I want to play these guys. (I know, they'd kill me, but I'm just saying.) Bring it on, high-school chumps.
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Now I understand that Bosh and Wade had obligations to their camps so they couldn't be together but they did broadcast their announcement together. However, what does this ridiculous LeBron one-hour - but in reality, one day long - TV show tells you? Couldn't he make his announcement with Bosh and Wade, together as the "new" big three? The "He made his choice today only" argument is a lie, they decided to team up some time ago. To me, a guy that puts himself on the frontstage, litterally at the center of all attentions, separately for his soon to be new teammates, isn't sending good vibes at all. We all know LeBron is a team player but still, he is all about hype and himself too.

No, they did not. Even Wade had concern about how he, Bosh, and Lebron could be in Miami and still have a team built around them. Between that and his ex-wife + kids being in Chicago, he almost went there with Bosh. I'll give you that this was all decided when Wade + Bosh went to Miami, but any earlier, and I feel you can't be sure. I do believe Lebron probably did want to stay in Cleveland, but couldn't get anyone to go with him. Bosh saying no to Cleveland probably sealed Cleveland's fate, when it was all said and done, and I think the fans saw the writing on the wall.

Again, overall, I say Lebron to Miami was a 'done deal' when Wade + Bosh signed with Miami.

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Doc even said after we won the title in 08 that he thought we never would've won if it the big 3 were in the their mid to late 20s.

Gotta wonder if his thought process is the same for this team

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I think Danny Ainge needs to trademark the term "Big Three". Allowing another franchise to use it seems, I don't know, disrespectful.

Miami Thrice? Tri-ami? The Miami Hype Machine?

How about the "3 RIng Circus"?

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There are 2 main ways to look at this.

(1) This move will hurt their stats while they are still in their prime and will make it harder for best player of all time arguments

or (2) in the following season they could have one the most dominant teams of all time and they could win multiple rings.

Being part of the most dominant team of all time is always a good thing, unless you caused them to do a Patriots style choke in the finals game 7.

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I think Danny Ainge needs to trademark the term "Big Three". Allowing another franchise to use it seems, I don't know, disrespectful.

Miami Thrice? Tri-ami? The Miami Hype Machine?

How about the "3 RIng Circus"?


lol good one

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I think Danny Ainge needs to trademark the term "Big Three". Allowing another franchise to use it seems, I don't know, disrespectful.

Miami Thrice? Tri-ami? The Miami Hype Machine?

How about the "3 RIng Circus"?

I was thinking about that too, but there's only one ring between the three of them.

I know. I could have sworn it was more. Maybe not 17, but up there.
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I think Danny Ainge needs to trademark the term "Big Three". Allowing another franchise to use it seems, I don't know, disrespectful.

Miami Thrice? Tri-ami? The Miami Hype Machine?

How about the "3 RIng Circus"?

I was thinking about that too, but there's only one ring between the three of them.

I know. I could have sworn it was more. Maybe not 17, but up there.

Isn't that funny -- I also dubbed them "the circus" as soon as Lebron made his announcement. As in, "the circus is coming to town." For the media circus that will accompany them everywhere....lol/yuck at the same time.
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From the looks of Bosh's twitter he seemed surprised by the decision... great start. And I still don't see who is going to be captain. It's wade team... He's not going to give it to Lebron. But Lebron has always been the man and wants the spotlight-- just look at his one hour special. Don't forget our Big three claimed that they got on each other and wanted to rip each other's heads off at times too. Granted... these three did play together during the Olympics already but Wade was a 6th man for that team. Nothing close to that is happening now.

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There was another thing I picked up in this interview that the C's three never did.  When they came together they always used the word help.  " I am here to help the  team win a championship."  Lebron says "I am here to lead Miami into a championship."  Now I know this is something little but last i knew Wade was the leader of the the Heat.  If both these guys try to be the leaders they will bump heads eventually.