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Quote from: wdleehi on July 08, 2010, 10:54:29 AMQuote from: Jon on July 08, 2010, 10:51:50 AMQuote from: BMark on July 08, 2010, 10:46:55 AMIverson walked out on Memphis, what makes anyone think he would honor a vet minimum contract?Well, that was slightly different circumstances where he was sitting behind unestablished players. It's quite another to sit behind three All Stars, two of whom are first ballot Hall of Famers. Plus, the point is that it's the minimum, if he walks out, it's really no skin off our back. It is easy to point out reason's he will not work. He has made a career that points to his inability to ever take a back seat.Can you come up with anything that says he will suddenly change? Besides wishful thinking.Not concrete ones. And let me be clear, if I had to pick one, it would be T-Mac, not Iverson. And if I had it my way, we'd get someone like Reddick to make this all a moot point. However, this would be a far different situation for Iverson than Memphis and Philly (2nd time) where he was playing in losing situations and losing time to unestablished players. I mean this is a guy who carried teams on his back for years. It's not ridiculous for him to think he deserves more PT if the team is losing with unestablished players. Here, he'd be in a winning situations, making it far harder to complain. And he'd be playing behind Rondo and Allen, two established NBA stars. Plus, you feel after his last two failures, he may be beaten down enough by the world to really change. Am I guaranteeing anything? No. Would I touch even part of the MLE for either AI or T-Mac? Not unless it was late August and everything else had dried up. I'm just saying for the minimum, it'd be worth seeing if either of those guys could be the scorer off the bench that allows Doc to cut Ray and Paul's minutes.
Quote from: Jon on July 08, 2010, 10:51:50 AMQuote from: BMark on July 08, 2010, 10:46:55 AMIverson walked out on Memphis, what makes anyone think he would honor a vet minimum contract?Well, that was slightly different circumstances where he was sitting behind unestablished players. It's quite another to sit behind three All Stars, two of whom are first ballot Hall of Famers. Plus, the point is that it's the minimum, if he walks out, it's really no skin off our back. It is easy to point out reason's he will not work. He has made a career that points to his inability to ever take a back seat.Can you come up with anything that says he will suddenly change? Besides wishful thinking.
Quote from: BMark on July 08, 2010, 10:46:55 AMIverson walked out on Memphis, what makes anyone think he would honor a vet minimum contract?Well, that was slightly different circumstances where he was sitting behind unestablished players. It's quite another to sit behind three All Stars, two of whom are first ballot Hall of Famers. Plus, the point is that it's the minimum, if he walks out, it's really no skin off our back.
Iverson walked out on Memphis, what makes anyone think he would honor a vet minimum contract?
Quote from: Jon on July 08, 2010, 11:04:38 AMQuote from: wdleehi on July 08, 2010, 10:54:29 AMQuote from: Jon on July 08, 2010, 10:51:50 AMQuote from: BMark on July 08, 2010, 10:46:55 AMIverson walked out on Memphis, what makes anyone think he would honor a vet minimum contract?Well, that was slightly different circumstances where he was sitting behind unestablished players. It's quite another to sit behind three All Stars, two of whom are first ballot Hall of Famers. Plus, the point is that it's the minimum, if he walks out, it's really no skin off our back. It is easy to point out reason's he will not work. He has made a career that points to his inability to ever take a back seat.Can you come up with anything that says he will suddenly change? Besides wishful thinking.Not concrete ones. And let me be clear, if I had to pick one, it would be T-Mac, not Iverson. And if I had it my way, we'd get someone like Reddick to make this all a moot point. However, this would be a far different situation for Iverson than Memphis and Philly (2nd time) where he was playing in losing situations and losing time to unestablished players. I mean this is a guy who carried teams on his back for years. It's not ridiculous for him to think he deserves more PT if the team is losing with unestablished players. Here, he'd be in a winning situations, making it far harder to complain. And he'd be playing behind Rondo and Allen, two established NBA stars. Plus, you feel after his last two failures, he may be beaten down enough by the world to really change. Am I guaranteeing anything? No. Would I touch even part of the MLE for either AI or T-Mac? Not unless it was late August and everything else had dried up. I'm just saying for the minimum, it'd be worth seeing if either of those guys could be the scorer off the bench that allows Doc to cut Ray and Paul's minutes. The issue is that Memphis told AI that was what was going to happen. When it did happen, he quit.
We'd be too ancient. We need someone in his prime other than Rondo if we are going to compete.