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Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2010, 07:33:51 PM »

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We can't waste money on a tweener who can't solve our problems at center and can't be instant offense at the wing. 

He's nice, but we already have an undersized power forward in Baby and if we want a 4th wing type, we can bring back TA without touching the MLE. 


I think you're seriously underestimating Gomes' value on offense.  I think I'd rather have him than Mike Miller.  Of course, from seeing him in Minnesota and what I remember in Boston, Gomes' defensive IQ is absolutely atrocious.

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I think your last phrase about Gomes's defensive IQ proves exactly why we wouldn't rather have him over Mike Miller.  We don't need him as a 4 since we have Baby.  We need him as a 3.  However, he's not a lockdown defender, nor is he a scorer.  Again, at the minimum, fine, but he's not really the solution to any of our problems. 

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Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2010, 08:39:08 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2010, 09:05:43 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot? 

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here. 

Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2010, 09:10:30 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot? 

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here. 

TP. I just don't see the need for a guy who really doesn't do much of anything well.
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Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2010, 09:13:49 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot? 

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here. 
its if we can move davis for a c or sg then the gomes idea becomes relavent
if we have kg & davis then we have no need for gomes we need to go after a true sf, a well rounded sg or a vet c

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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2010, 09:47:28 PM »

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For what it's worth, Gomes is 6'7" barefoot (6'8" in shoes) AND has a 7'2" wingspan. Hello.

I wasn't too into bringing him back, but the wingspan .... OOOOHHHHHH the wingspan. Now I'm on board.

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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM »

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Gomes fight rebounds and now how to play team ball
at little price nothing wrong with him
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2010, 09:59:57 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot? 

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here. 

TP. I just don't see the need for a guy who really doesn't do much of anything well.

This coming from the leader of the "bring michael beasley here" brigade...  So can you explain this one to us, "coach"?
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2010, 10:12:45 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot? 

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here. 

  Regardless of Gomes, aren't KG and/or Baby going to be logging heavy minutes at the 5? Sheed and Perk are both MIA, at least until we get bak Perk. I don't see any FA centers coming in and giving us anywhere near a combined 48 minutes.

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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2010, 10:28:50 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot?  

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here.  

TP. I just don't see the need for a guy who really doesn't do much of anything well.

This coming from the leader of the "bring michael beasley here" brigade...  So can you explain this one to us, "coach"?

Gomes has peaked while Beasley has incredible talent/upside? Beasley has a much, much bigger payoff if he works out?

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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2010, 10:45:19 PM »

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Gomes is available and his old team is paying him 1 Million, with Beasley we’d need to trade for him...

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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2010, 10:49:22 PM »

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Love to have him for a reasonable number. He's a better player and more consistent than BBD any day of the week.

Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2010, 11:00:20 PM »

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Always like Gomes...  Gets the most out of his talent.  For the right price, I'd love to see him come back home.  The Celtics appear to have a number of decisions on the table which could take this team in any direction.  Gomes would be a nice fit either way, going for a title or starting over.
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if we are without one way or the other sheed, daniels, scal, nate then why not Gomes.  I'd be interested to see what we can get for davis via trade towards sg or c material.  I do appreciate the job davis did for us but would like to see Gomes as backup pf with limited minutes at sf.  I feel it will depend on contract but he was the main guy I hated to see go.  A glue guy.

What type of minutes are there going to be at "backup power forward" for Ryan Gomes?  It's nice to talk about that in a general sense, but unless you plan on logging Garnett or Baby heavy minutes at the 5 spot, where exactly are those minutes going to come from?  And if he does play the 4, is he going to play next to Baby, two guys probably 6-7 or less who can't block a shot?  

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the bring-back-Gomes committee here doesn't seem to really taking into account how he'd actually fit in here.  

TP. I just don't see the need for a guy who really doesn't do much of anything well.

This coming from the leader of the "bring michael beasley here" brigade...  So can you explain this one to us, "coach"?

Gomes has peaked while Beasley has incredible talent/upside? Beasley has a much, much bigger payoff if he works out?

This is exactly it.  While Beasley isn't ideal because he isn't a pure 3 and doesn't solve our problems at the 5, at least he can be a scoring presence off the bench, which would do a lot to take things off Pierce and Ray.

And I really can't believe there are people on this board thinking we should try trade Big Baby and bring in Ryan Gomes.  In case people forgot, Baby, while flawed, has performed extraordinarily well deep in the playoffs while Gomes has played on horrible team after horrible team. 

As Coach Bo says, he does a bunch of things OK, but nothing well and as I said, he fills no role on this team.  If he wants to come on board as our new Brian Scalabrine at the minimum, so be it.  But he's not the answer to any problems we may have if we're going to contend next year. 

Re: Ryan Gomes officially waived.
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2010, 11:04:26 PM »

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He'll land on his feet somewhere. Maybe Toronto, though a contender looking for a solid role player would seem more likely.



http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2010/06/preparing-for-a-boshfree-future.html

Ryan Gomes.

Like him?

Not sure how many of you have been following what’s going on with him but the serviceable backup (who I quite like as a player, by the by) was traded from Minnesota to Portland and will either be traded or waived by 3 p.m. Tuesday to save the Blazers some money because his contract is not fully guaranteed if he’s released by that time.

I will tell you this: I know from league sources that the Raptors have made a call to see if there’s a trade fit and while it’s doubtful that gets done (it’s in Portland’s best interest, really, to waive him) I know Toronto will see if it can get something done with him in free agency.

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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2010, 11:16:13 PM »

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For what it's worth, Gomes is 6'7" barefoot (6'8" in shoes) AND has a 7'2" wingspan. Hello.

I wasn't too into bringing him back, but the wingspan .... OOOOHHHHHH the wingspan. Now I'm on board.

Meh, so what?  We saw enough of Ryan Gomes when he was here to know that, long arms or not, he's not a particularly good defensive player.  Long arms aren't helping him against stronger 4's, or against quicker 3's. 

He is what he is; I don't mind if Gomes comes back at the minimum, but I'd hate for it to be a dollar more.