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Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2010, 09:03:48 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.

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Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2010, 09:05:51 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.




All athletic teams rarely win titles.


Having a true half court weapon is huge in the playoffs.


As long as there are others that can run with Rondo, then the full court game is there.


Not every player has to be a high flier for Rondo to be successful. 

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2010, 09:27:12 AM »

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Not sure how you could play Al & KG together and not get eaten up by the top bigs in the league.  I think if you brought Al back, KG would have to be moved.

I like the idea of an inside scorer but you can't win in the playoffs unless you can get stops.

That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to moving Perk in the right deal.  He & Rondo on the the court together late in games is a liability offensively.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2010, 09:31:58 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.




All athletic teams rarely win titles.


Having a true half court weapon is huge in the playoffs.


As long as there are others that can run with Rondo, then the full court game is there.


Not every player has to be a high flier for Rondo to be successful. 

Agree.  Big Al can be a piece.  He doesn't have to be a centerpiece.  I've always hoped to see him off the bench as a 6th man scoring freak....I think he'd be great at that...hides the defensive woes a bit.......major scoring and good rebounding off the bench....just need to find a big defensive dude to start with KG......

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2010, 09:35:55 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.




All athletic teams rarely win titles.


Having a true half court weapon is huge in the playoffs.


As long as there are others that can run with Rondo, then the full court game is there.


Not every player has to be a high flier for Rondo to be successful. 

Agree.  Big Al can be a piece.  He doesn't have to be a centerpiece.  I've always hoped to see him off the bench as a 6th man scoring freak....I think he'd be great at that...hides the defensive woes a bit.......major scoring and good rebounding off the bench....just need to find a big defensive dude to start with KG......

Big Al's contract makes him an expensive piece--especially off the bench.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2010, 09:39:09 AM »

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Aside from Walker, when was the last time the celtics actually traded for an ex-celtic. Please note I am looking for a player that actually played a game so Rick Fox's carcus/contract does not count.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2010, 09:44:09 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.



  It would be fine. Rondo would run things like he normally does and we'd have Al to give the ball to late in the shot clock instead of trying to run those isos.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2010, 09:45:14 AM »

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Aside from Walker, when was the last time the celtics actually traded for an ex-celtic. Please note I am looking for a player that actually played a game so Rick Fox's carcus/contract does not count.

  Translation: aside from when it happened, when did it ever happen?

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2010, 09:53:55 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.




All athletic teams rarely win titles.


Having a true half court weapon is huge in the playoffs.


As long as there are others that can run with Rondo, then the full court game is there.


Not every player has to be a high flier for Rondo to be successful. 

Agree.  Big Al can be a piece.  He doesn't have to be a centerpiece.  I've always hoped to see him off the bench as a 6th man scoring freak....I think he'd be great at that...hides the defensive woes a bit.......major scoring and good rebounding off the bench....just need to find a big defensive dude to start with KG......

Big Al's contract makes him an expensive piece--especially off the bench.

Starters verses bench is overrated.  McHale came off the bench.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2010, 10:02:05 AM »

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I cant believe some people would not move Perk for Big Al.

There comes a point when our defensive force of a center goes from underrated to overrated. I understand that Perk would have helped us win game 7 but the reality is he is not the only guy in the NBA that can bang down low defensively. He is probably the best at it and he has come a long way, but Big Al is a top 3 low post scorer in the NBA.

Imagine 3 years ago if Perk was included in the KG deal instead of Perk.

That would have been more lopsided than the Gasol deal.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2010, 10:35:57 AM »

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Regardless of whether it's a good trade or whether Rondo fits here, I can't imagine Minnie allowing the C's to have Garnett and Big Al at the same time.  It'd just look bad from a PR perspective. 

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2010, 10:39:05 AM »

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Regardless of whether it's a good trade or whether Rondo fits here, I can't imagine Minnie allowing the C's to have Garnett and Big Al at the same time.  It'd just look bad from a PR perspective. 

and don't forget McHale too

the cry of heywaitaminute! out of Minny fans would be deafening
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Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2010, 10:41:53 AM »

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Big Al is a poor fit with Rondo. It'd be like he's back at Kentucky again. We need athletic players and shooters, not a post player who needs 20-25 shots a game.




All athletic teams rarely win titles.


Having a true half court weapon is huge in the playoffs.


As long as there are others that can run with Rondo, then the full court game is there.


Not every player has to be a high flier for Rondo to be successful. 

"All athletic"? Can we get one besides Rondo?



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Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2010, 10:44:04 AM »

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Dont like it. Jefferson is a PF and that position is already filled. We need an athletic Center who can play above the rim.

Re: Trade Idea: Perkins for Jefferson
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2010, 10:46:14 AM »

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Perkins, Sheed, and #19

for

Al Jefferson and #4

(salary dump for Minny)

If Minny would actually do this trade, I'd be for it regardless of Al's fit and the fact that he's an atrocious defender. It's good value. But I don't see them surrenduring the 4th pick here.

If they'd do Perk and Sheed for Al, then you'd of course pul the trigger. Heck, we're going to have to pay Perk 6-7 million after this season anyway.
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