If Wallace is going to retire, who could the Celtics trade him for (cap trade)

[JSD]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

I agree. If you're going to eat Sheed's contract, you're not serious about winning. Period.

I agree with this as well. We already have a serious frontline problem with our first big off the bench retiring. That coupled with the fact that our starting center is injured for at least half the season, and may not be effective at all makes us need to use all our assets. Sheeds cap spot is clearly an asset and it in essence needs to be used to replace him.

True, but if Pierce opts out and leaves and Ray leaves too, then it would be better to have Sheed's money off the cap to go after a top free agent.  With Pierce, Ray and Sheed gone I think the C's are 20 mil under the cap.  Even if you can't get Lebron or Wade you still might be able to get Rudy Gay, Amare, Boozer, Joe Johnson, David Lee, etc.  20 mil might get you two of those guys.  Or one of them and two rotation players.

Sorry to crash the party in dreamland...

BUT Paul and Rays salaries stay as a cap hold until they are signed by another team. Ray and Paul are pieces that will fall well after all the top tier guys. Therefore they’d be gone and have crap to replace the with.

Actually, the C's could "renounce" both and free up that space instantly. However, when a team renounces a player they forfeit their Bird Rights.

[Q_FBE]

We throw in 2 1st round picks as a courtesy.

Atlanta - Zaza Pachulia and Maurice Evans - Wishful thinking.

Charlotte - DeSagna Diop (or Nazr Mohammed) - Possible given that Charlotte has a large stable of big men.

Chicago - No Possibilities they are all in the Big FA stakes.

Cleveland - Anderson Varejo (Cleveland sheds salary to rebuild if Lebron moves on). I wanted Powe and Delonte West but that did not work according to Realgm (not sure why).

Detriot - Jason Maxiel and Austin Daye - I don't see that happening from Detriots perspective.

[BballTim]

We throw in 2 1st round picks as a courtesy.

Atlanta - Zaza Pachulia and Maurice Evans - Wishful thinking.

Charlotte - DeSagna Diop (or Nazr Mohammed) - Possible given that Charlotte has a large stable of big men.

Chicago - No Possibilities they are all in the Big FA stakes.

Cleveland - Anderson Varejo (Cleveland sheds salary to rebuild if Lebron moves on). I wanted Powe and Delonte West but that did not work according to Realgm (not sure why).

Detriot - Jason Maxiel and Austin Daye - I don't see that happening from Detriots perspective.

  You'd throw in 2 first rounders for Diop? Yikes.

[Jeff]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

[Evantime34]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

I think in most sign and trades we would need to include Baby. Why would a team want to trade for Sheed's contract in a sign an trade? I know he is going to retire but if the team just lets their FA walk it does the same thing. That or maybe we'd have to throw in a pick.
I'd rather not throw in a pick. We need young controlled talent to build on. We can't be trying to restock our team every year through the MLE and vet min.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

The "FAQ" should be coming out in the next 48 hours, but yes, we've got some trade chips.  If Rasheed agrees to retire, we can package him with the non-guaranteed deals of Gaffney and LaFayette, and can bring back up to $9.9 million in salary. 

Another thing I've pondered is whether we could bribe some team with cap space to give us a trade exception.  We could trade Rasheed, Gaffney, and LaFayette to a team with cap space.  That would net us a roughly $8 million trade exception, that we could use over the next year.  As an incentive for the other team, we could send them cash, and once they renounced / bought out everyone, they'd have the same cap space they originally had.

Obviously, a trade for players would be preferable, but the trade exception as a fall back wouldn't be bad.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

I think in most sign and trades we would need to include Baby. Why would a team want to trade for Sheed's contract in a sign an trade? I know he is going to retire but if the team just lets their FA walk it does the same thing. That or maybe we'd have to throw in a pick.
I'd rather not throw in a pick. We need young controlled talent to build on. We can't be trying to restock our team every year through the MLE and vet min.

You wouldn't necessarily need to include BBD, even if you were pursuing a free agent.  Cash + second rounders might get it done.  Basically, the team sending out the free agent would be no worse off, and would have free money and draft picks.  Plus, it builds up good will with the traded player's agent.  This is basically what we did when we traded Antoine to Miami for a hill of beans.

[Evantime34]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

The "FAQ" should be coming out in the next 48 hours, but yes, we've got some trade chips.  If Rasheed agrees to retire, we can package him with the non-guaranteed deals of Gaffney and LaFayette, and can bring back up to $9.9 million in salary. 

Another thing I've pondered is whether we could bribe some team with cap space to give us a trade exception.  We could trade Rasheed, Gaffney, and LaFayette to a team with cap space.  That would net us a roughly $8 million trade exception, that we could use over the next year.  As an incentive for the other team, we could send them cash, and once they renounced / bought out everyone, they'd have the same cap space they originally had.

Obviously, a trade for players would be preferable, but the trade exception as a fall back wouldn't be bad.

I didn't realize we could include the non guaranteed guys to bring back salary.
In this "FAQ" will you list guys who make around that salary or potentially could be moved for that much.

I understand what you mean about trading for picks and keeping good will with the agents. However, do you think the Knicks would trade David Lee for some 2nd round picks and non guaranteed contracts within their division? Would the Mavs trade away their only center (I'm assuming they waive Dampier) and be satisfied only getting a 2nd and some non guaranteed contract? I understand a cash strapped team like the Hawks or Warriors doing that but not a team that has cap space.

[Jeff]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it is just dawning on me.

Sheed's salary this year is $6.2M

under league rules, you can trade that away for a return value of $7.9M

that's a lot of scratch to offer a player (David Lee?) looking for more than the Mid Level

Toss in Big Baby and you go up to 11.2M in expiring contracts to offer someone - like say New Orleans for Emeka Okafor? (if they decide to deal Paul)

This is a good thing.  A very good thing to have in our pocket.  Not saying it will be used for sure, but we have a great opportunity here.

The "FAQ" should be coming out in the next 48 hours, but yes, we've got some trade chips.  If Rasheed agrees to retire, we can package him with the non-guaranteed deals of Gaffney and LaFayette, and can bring back up to $9.9 million in salary. 

Another thing I've pondered is whether we could bribe some team with cap space to give us a trade exception.  We could trade Rasheed, Gaffney, and LaFayette to a team with cap space.  That would net us a roughly $8 million trade exception, that we could use over the next year.  As an incentive for the other team, we could send them cash, and once they renounced / bought out everyone, they'd have the same cap space they originally had.

Obviously, a trade for players would be preferable, but the trade exception as a fall back wouldn't be bad.

Awesome.  Looking forward to the FAQ as usual.

[ctrey]

An interesting deal could be Wallace to the Warriors for Brandon Wright and Kelenna Azubuike. This would give us two back ups with upside and gives the Warriors financial relief and cap flexibility. Wright was completely in the dog house with Nelson and that will not change. He does not play Nelsons style of ball. I think he could help here and grow into a decent player. All in all this deal seems fair to both teams. Thoughts?

[Roy Hobbs]

An interesting deal could be Wallace to the Warriors for Brandon Wright and Kelenna Azubuike. This would give us two back ups with upside and gives the Warriors financial relief and cap flexibility. Wright was completely in the dog house with Nelson and that will not change. He does not play Nelsons style of ball. I think he could help here and grow into a decent player. All in all this deal seems fair to both teams. Thoughts?

I'd be all over this deal.  Wright and Azubuike are two of my binkies.

[Evantime34]

An interesting deal could be Wallace to the Warriors for Brandon Wright and Kelenna Azubuike. This would give us two back ups with upside and gives the Warriors financial relief and cap flexibility. Wright was completely in the dog house with Nelson and that will not change. He does not play Nelsons style of ball. I think he could help here and grow into a decent player. All in all this deal seems fair to both teams. Thoughts?

I'd be all over this deal.  Wright and Azubuike are two of my binkies.

I think we could do better than those two.

[ctrey]

The Warriors deal is fair. Not a pie-in-the-sky deal like Wallace for Beasley. We get two players that are no longer needed from a team desperate to shed salary. Those two players do not have long deals and can help fill our bench. Makes sense. If one of them blossoms into something special, it would be a bonus.

[Jeff]

I wonder if the timing of Bradley's contract has anything to do with the cap holds vs. actual salary.  It would see that they are trying to pin down our cap figure as quickly as possible to make future moves possible.  -- just thinking out loud here

[Roy Hobbs]

An interesting deal could be Wallace to the Warriors for Brandon Wright and Kelenna Azubuike. This would give us two back ups with upside and gives the Warriors financial relief and cap flexibility. Wright was completely in the dog house with Nelson and that will not change. He does not play Nelsons style of ball. I think he could help here and grow into a decent player. All in all this deal seems fair to both teams. Thoughts?

I'd be all over this deal.  Wright and Azubuike are two of my binkies.

I think we could do better than those two.

Maybe, but I think both would be excellent fits.  Azubuike is a great shooter who can also get to the basket, and Wright is an up-and-comer who can score on the block and who has good defensive instincts.  I'd be happy with both.