If Wallace is going to retire, who could the Celtics trade him for (cap trade)

[JSD]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

[arctic 3.0]

Wallace's essentially expiring contract is worth $6.33M, meaning we can trade him for any player between $5M and $8M according to the CBA (125% + $100k).

Here are some guys I like:

Varejao
Ariza
Odom
Beasley
Sessions & Brewer
Millsap
Garcia

Who do you like?

add
marc gassol or
randolf and turiaf

[2short]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

[JSD]

Wallace's essentially expiring contract is worth $6.33M, meaning we can trade him for any player between $5M and $8M according to the CBA (125% + $100k).

Here are some guys I like:

Varejao
Ariza
Odom
Beasley
Sessions & Brewer
Millsap
Garcia

Who do you like?

no way LA trades us Odom, and no way the Jazz throw away Milsap. I would love to get Ariza, but I'm not sure that houston does that either. I hate Verajao, hate him, but he would help a lot, and if lebron leaves, what do the cavs want to keep him for?

You'd think a 1st rounder would be enough. Problem is, who plays Center for that club if they trade him?

Well, that is really the least of their worries.  If LBJ doesn't come back, CLE is in for a heck of a lot of rebuilding, and all rebuilding efforts start with getting rid of big contracts.  Varejao, who has something like 4 years and $32M left (not including a team option in year 5), is the biggest contract they've got.

I'd be happy with that trade.  I think Varejao brings a lot of energy and hustle.  Even though he'd be coming off the bench with Boston, he and Rondo would make a nice fast break pair.

What I'd love even more, and this is just me being greedy, is that Danny convinces Cleveland that the pot needs to be sweetened in order for us to take Varejao, and the only way to do that is to throw in JJ Hickson.

Cleveland wouldn't have to sweeten the pot, no way. AV has enough value to net them a 1st rounder, even with his contract.

[JSD]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

[Cman]

Wallace's essentially expiring contract is worth $6.33M, meaning we can trade him for any player between $5M and $8M according to the CBA (125% + $100k).

Here are some guys I like:

Varejao
Ariza
Odom
Beasley
Sessions & Brewer
Millsap
Garcia

Who do you like?

no way LA trades us Odom, and no way the Jazz throw away Milsap. I would love to get Ariza, but I'm not sure that houston does that either. I hate Verajao, hate him, but he would help a lot, and if lebron leaves, what do the cavs want to keep him for?

You'd think a 1st rounder would be enough. Problem is, who plays Center for that club if they trade him?

Well, that is really the least of their worries.  If LBJ doesn't come back, CLE is in for a heck of a lot of rebuilding, and all rebuilding efforts start with getting rid of big contracts.  Varejao, who has something like 4 years and $32M left (not including a team option in year 5), is the biggest contract they've got.

I'd be happy with that trade.  I think Varejao brings a lot of energy and hustle.  Even though he'd be coming off the bench with Boston, he and Rondo would make a nice fast break pair.

What I'd love even more, and this is just me being greedy, is that Danny convinces Cleveland that the pot needs to be sweetened in order for us to take Varejao, and the only way to do that is to throw in JJ Hickson.

Cleveland wouldn't have to sweeten the pot, no way. AV has enough value to net them a 1st rounder, even with his contract.

That's why I said I was "being greedy"
I don't think you'd need to include a first rounder, though.
Without LBJ back, Cleveland is done.  They'd trade AV for Sheed's expiring straight up, I bet.

[Cman]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled. 

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

[JSD]

Wallace's essentially expiring contract is worth $6.33M, meaning we can trade him for any player between $5M and $8M according to the CBA (125% + $100k).

Here are some guys I like:

Varejao
Ariza
Odom
Beasley
Sessions & Brewer
Millsap
Garcia

Who do you like?

no way LA trades us Odom, and no way the Jazz throw away Milsap. I would love to get Ariza, but I'm not sure that houston does that either. I hate Verajao, hate him, but he would help a lot, and if lebron leaves, what do the cavs want to keep him for?

You'd think a 1st rounder would be enough. Problem is, who plays Center for that club if they trade him?

Well, that is really the least of their worries.  If LBJ doesn't come back, CLE is in for a heck of a lot of rebuilding, and all rebuilding efforts start with getting rid of big contracts.  Varejao, who has something like 4 years and $32M left (not including a team option in year 5), is the biggest contract they've got.

I'd be happy with that trade.  I think Varejao brings a lot of energy and hustle.  Even though he'd be coming off the bench with Boston, he and Rondo would make a nice fast break pair.

What I'd love even more, and this is just me being greedy, is that Danny convinces Cleveland that the pot needs to be sweetened in order for us to take Varejao, and the only way to do that is to throw in JJ Hickson.

Cleveland wouldn't have to sweeten the pot, no way. AV has enough value to net them a 1st rounder, even with his contract.

That's why I said I was "being greedy"
I don't think you'd need to include a first rounder, though.
Without LBJ back, Cleveland is done.  They'd trade AV for Sheed's expiring straight up, I bet.

That'd be great but I just can't imagine it. Then again, I've seen crazier things happen.

[JSD]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

[Mr October]

From that OP's list Beasley looks the most intriguing, while still being realistic.

I don't think Ainge has moved Wallace's contract yet because he doesn't know if the Celtics are going into detonation mode yet or not.

After PP's intentions/demands/whatever are met, then Ray's, then I think you'll see some movement.

[CoachBo]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

I agree. If you're going to eat Sheed's contract, you're not serious about winning. Period.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

You couldn't pry Millsap out of Utah's hands with a Sheed-size crow bar, and I don't want the overpaid, underachieving (not to mention arrogant) Odor playing for Boston. I've said before that Beasley is worth the risk, but I also think Varejao would be a great fit: team player, big-time hustle and energy, excellent rebounder and defender, quicker (and slightly more gifted on offense) than Perk.

[celticsclay]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

I agree. If you're going to eat Sheed's contract, you're not serious about winning. Period.

I agree with this as well. We already have a serious frontline problem with our first big off the bench retiring. That coupled with the fact that our starting center is injured for at least half the season, and may not be effective at all makes us need to use all our assets. Sheeds cap spot is clearly an asset and it in essence needs to be used to replace him.

[greg_kite]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

I agree. If you're going to eat Sheed's contract, you're not serious about winning. Period.

I agree with this as well. We already have a serious frontline problem with our first big off the bench retiring. That coupled with the fact that our starting center is injured for at least half the season, and may not be effective at all makes us need to use all our assets. Sheeds cap spot is clearly an asset and it in essence needs to be used to replace him.

True, but if Pierce opts out and leaves and Ray leaves too, then it would be better to have Sheed's money off the cap to go after a top free agent.  With Pierce, Ray and Sheed gone I think the C's are 20 mil under the cap.  Even if you can't get Lebron or Wade you still might be able to get Rudy Gay, Amare, Boozer, Joe Johnson, David Lee, etc.  20 mil might get you two of those guys.  Or one of them and two rotation players.

[xmuscularghandix]

Sheed's contract has a ton of value around the league right now. The Wizards have picked off Hinrich and now Yi Jianlan by simply providing cap relief. What is Danny waiting for? There has got to be a deal out there for Sheed.

I think he's waiting like everyone else to see what lebron decides, the ripple effect that his choice will cause will be amazing.

Once James decides, team's will stop clearing cap space (giving away their talent for nothing) at this rate knowing they don't have a chance. So Danny needs to act sooner than later. I'm actually starting to get concerned that he will do nothing with it and simply let him retire...

As a fan, I don't want this to happen, but if the owners decide to go this route, then so be it.  I didn't expect them to use the MLE last year, but they did.  They have paid a fair bit of $$ in luxury tax the past few years, and we have been getting spoiled.  

I guess I am saying that, while I don't want it to happen, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners decided to scale back the spending...

To me, not going "all out" with this group is unacceptable. If they decide to slash payroll, rebuild and go for big profit once KG is off the books I'd completely understand. But not now, no sir, 5 points away from a championship you do whatever it takes to put the team over the top. The MLE from last offseason must not go to waste.

I agree. If you're going to eat Sheed's contract, you're not serious about winning. Period.

I agree with this as well. We already have a serious frontline problem with our first big off the bench retiring. That coupled with the fact that our starting center is injured for at least half the season, and may not be effective at all makes us need to use all our assets. Sheeds cap spot is clearly an asset and it in essence needs to be used to replace him.

True, but if Pierce opts out and leaves and Ray leaves too, then it would be better to have Sheed's money off the cap to go after a top free agent.  With Pierce, Ray and Sheed gone I think the C's are 20 mil under the cap.  Even if you can't get Lebron or Wade you still might be able to get Rudy Gay, Amare, Boozer, Joe Johnson, David Lee, etc.  20 mil might get you two of those guys.  Or one of them and two rotation players.

Sorry to crash the party in dreamland...

BUT Paul and Rays salaries stay as a cap hold until they are signed by another team. Ray and Paul are pieces that will fall well after all the top tier guys. Therefore they’d be gone and have crap to replace the with.