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Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 12:57:48 PM »

Offline vinnie

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I certainly hope that when I see Glen Davis' shots getting blocked on a regular basis next year that he is playing for another team.

56 percent of Glen Davis' shots have come close to the basket this year, 26 percent of those shots have been blocked. That is atrocious.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2010, 12:59:25 PM »

Offline mmbaby

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Which game are you talking about? Last night he had one blocked shot; so did perk and sheed.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2010, 12:59:44 PM »

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The most shocking play of last night's game was when he went up strong against Noah and Noah didn't block it. Seriously, my jaw dropped. Is Cliff Ray teaching these guys anymore? Perk and Big Baby have terrible around the basket presence these days.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2010, 12:59:58 PM »

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Yeah, Matt, it's obvious how much you love BBD!
Bringing up things that happened 2 years ago and telling him to grow up? That's makes a lot of sense...not.
And so far as his percentage of blocked shots, I said he had been improving on that and he has. the percentage numbers won't show that.

You're making a good point or two mmbaby, but when your argument contains "... not" you lose a little credibility. Maybe you don't have a problem with BBD acting immature because you're a teenager? Nothing wrong with that if that's the case, but maybe the perspective of his actions is different due to an age difference.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2010, 01:06:41 PM »

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Excuse me for not measuring up to your high standards of writing on a blog, EJ, but you're moving aside from the point, which tests your credibility also.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 01:17:34 PM »

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Yeah, Matt, it's obvious how much you love BBD!
Bringing up things that happened 2 years ago and telling him to grow up? That's makes a lot of sense...not.
And so far as his percentage of blocked shots, I said he had been improving on that and he has. the percentage numbers won't show that.

Do I really need to repeat myself?

I love that Big Baby brings...

1. A good unexpected jump shot.
2. Excellent rebounding skills, sometimes the best on the team.
3. Ridiculous hustle. Big Baby and Tony Allen are the two players on the Celtics who constantly have energy and are working their butts off. I love Baby for that.

I don't like that Big Baby brings...

1. A bad attitude... he lets us know that he hasn't grown up from time to time.
2. Bad decision making skills after he gets big offensive rebounds and decides to put up layups when he is surrounded by 3 or 4 opposing players.

I would like to see Big Baby... grow up and stop acting like a child and learn to pass the ball to somebody like Ray Allen after he gets a big offensive rebound... think about it... he could get the offensive rebound and pass it out to Ray and we get a 3. Instead he gets the ball thrown back in his face, then the other team brings it down the floor and hits a 3. That is not good!

I do love Big Baby... I want to see him succeed, and he needs to improve in two areas to do better.

Why can't I like a player but also want them to improve in a couple areas? You make it sound like I either like him or hate him. Not everything is always so black and white.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2010, 02:31:45 PM by MattG12 »

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 01:22:50 PM »

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Please keep the topic on Glen Davis, attacking the poster instead of the argument is not acceptable.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 01:23:40 PM »

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Not true. You must not have been watching closely. About half the time now, he gets those balls in, in spite of being surrounded by 3 or 4 guys.

It's the other half that concerns us...
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Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 01:32:07 PM »

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I hear you, Matt, but bringing up incidents that happened long ago is getting old. Yes, I'm sure he has some growing up to do, and also sure that the incident with his friend at the beginning of the season was a great learning lesson for him.
Why keep bringing it up as though it defines him as a player.
He is a player in transition as evidenced by his improvement with the blocked shot problem and getting the rebound, then passing it to someone else. Why continue to harp on his negatives that he has been obviously trying to improve upon.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 01:35:31 PM »

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Cryin' o the bench? That was 2 years ago. Get over it, Matt.
Yelling at a fan who was heckling him over and over again till the fan was finally taken out by security? I don't blame him a bit. Getting in the face of a player......think of KG, Perk, PP, Rhondo, Sheed.
Contributions? BBD is the most consistent player off the bench. Where have you been?

Do you defend Sasha Vujacic crying on the bench too?

Once again, I like Big Baby... and I told you why I like him as a player.

He cried on the bench when KG tried to get him in the huddle a couple years ago... He yelled at a fan (I believe this season). Sure the fan got thrown out but if my memory is correct, he got fined as well, so obviously some people don't support him yelling at a fan. He didn't get in somebody's face. Weeks ago he threw a player to the ground like he was wrestling because he got frustrated. I'm sorry but he's a bit of a baby.

He couldn't play the beginning of the season because he fought somebody while driving a car... that is reckless!!! You don't think he still has a little bit of growing up to do? These things keep happening, it's not like all of this happened his rookie season.

I agree that baby brings a lot to the table but he still needs to improve and mature.  However, I don't him crying on the bench is an indication that he is not mature today.  That's in the past and over and done with.  Bringing up vujacic is irrelevant.  It's not a matter of defending anyone.  If the guys cried on the bench I don't see what there is to be defended against.  

Another big thing, though, is don't twist the baby story from the beginning of the year.  He did not fight WHILE driving.  That indeed is reckless and that's not what he did.  Was it smart for him to get into that fight, no but I also don't know how i would react if someone was talking smack about my gf.  i do know he didn't drink and fight, lol

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 01:37:56 PM »

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I hear you, Matt, but bringing up incidents that happened long ago is getting old. Yes, I'm sure he has some growing up to do, and also sure that the incident with his friend at the beginning of the season was a great learning lesson for him.
Why keep bringing it up as though it defines him as a player.
He is a player in transition as evidenced by his improvement with the blocked shot problem and getting the rebound, then passing it to someone else. Why continue to harp on his negatives that he has been obviously trying to improve upon.

Well I think he's trying to honestly evaluate him as a player. It seems like you only want to talk about the positives. There are two sides to the story, and to just say someone is being unreasonable or overly negative is missing the point. Baby is as you say a player in transition. He's got a lot of flaws and he's got some positives.

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Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 02:13:09 PM »

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I think Davis has a lot to offer as a player and, in fairness, some of his offensive difficulties this season are because Doc is forcing him to compensate for Sheed.  Davis is being asked to take Perk's role while Sheed floats out around the arc, which is why we've seen so little of that mid-range jumper Davis was hitting last year.

Even so, Davis' idiotic obsession with trying to power the ball up and over taller players is one of the things that has helped send Boston's offense into tailspins during games this season.

Mike

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 02:18:36 PM »

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Not true. You must not have been watching closely. About half the time now, he gets those balls in, in spite of being surrounded by 3 or 4 guys.

Agreed. Also, he's the only player in the NBA this season with more offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds. (courtesy Mike Gorman during a broadcast a couple weeks ago).
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Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2010, 03:13:54 PM »

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Excuse me for not measuring up to your high standards of writing on a blog, EJ, but you're moving aside from the point, which tests your credibility also.

Whoa there buddy. I wasn't attacking you. I asked if maybe you were a lot younger than some of us due to using the phrase "...not". Only a really young person would use that phrase. (You can't really imagine your dad or grandpa saying that now can you?!) I said that if that was the case, then maybe the reason some things that you dismiss easily or don't see as being issues are due to being younger, where us old guys might have a harder time accepting.

No need to get upset. It wasn't an attack, just a thought and question. BBD's maturity level is 100% the question and right on point. I am just offering a possible reason you don't see his consistent immature actions as a problem.

Re: What is Big Baby thinking?
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2010, 10:25:15 AM »

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Baby has to lead the league in most blocks against. Is there a stat for that somewhere?