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Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #90 on: March 06, 2010, 09:19:38 PM »

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Oh wow, I find myself agreeing with everything Birdbrain says tonight....the voice of reason. Thank you for that.
Yeah, I too remember the panting for Sheed and how he was going to save our team and all that. Now you would think he has committed serious criminal offenses and plays the games naked or something!
Sheed is good, no he is great. And he's not lazy!! How would anyone know anyway? How does one know what goes on in another's head? His 3 pointers have helped the team tremendouly and he can defend amazing. He's also a very good shooter. I love the guy and am glad we have him.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2010, 11:31:56 AM »

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After watching the Cavs game yesterday, I am more convinced that Sheed is poison and the team has taken on his attitude.  Sheed just stood around and let Verajao(sp) and even a less than 100% Powe have their way.  Just disgusting! >:(

Look at Perk. He never played "lazy" defense or seemed bored with playing until Sheed showed up.  Perk loved being the enforcer on defense.  Where has that gone?

Why hasn't Doc stepped in and benched Sheed on nights when he is hurting the team more than helping?  Didn't he say a short time ago that he wouldn't play those who weren't giving the effort?

I'm getting sick of Doc and Sheed.
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Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2010, 11:37:55 AM »

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I blame Williams.  He came the same time as Wallace.


Or how about Daniels.  He's  new as well.



I want to blame Hudson, but he is not longer here.




Finally, I got it.  It was the loss of Gabe Pruitt.





Honestly, this mess can not be dumped on the lap of one bench player. 

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2010, 11:40:03 AM »

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I blame Williams.  He came the same time as Wallace.


Or how about Daniels.  He's  new as well.



I want to blame Hudson, but he is not longer here.




Finally, I got it.  It was the loss of Gabe Pruitt.





Honestly, this mess can not be dumped on the lap of one bench player. 

Yeah, but Perk isn't taking on Pruitt or Daniels' attitude. Only Sheed's.
"If somebody would have told you when he was playing with the Knicks that Nate Robinson was going to change a big time game and he was going to do it mostly because of his defense, somebody would have got slapped."  Mark Jackson

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2010, 11:43:55 AM »

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I blame Williams.  He came the same time as Wallace.


Or how about Daniels.  He's  new as well.



I want to blame Hudson, but he is not longer here.




Finally, I got it.  It was the loss of Gabe Pruitt.





Honestly, this mess can not be dumped on the lap of one bench player. 

Yeah, but Perk isn't taking on Pruitt or Daniels' attitude. Only Sheed's.

What attitude is that?  The whole team has been lazy.  The coaches seem to be lazy too by doing nothing. 



How do you blame all of it on one bench player? 

Is it possible the team leaders came into this season that they only needed to turn it on come playoff time and that attitude has trickled down to the role players (including Wallace)

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2010, 11:45:23 AM »

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I blame Williams.  He came the same time as Wallace.


Or how about Daniels.  He's  new as well.



I want to blame Hudson, but he is not longer here.




Finally, I got it.  It was the loss of Gabe Pruitt.





Honestly, this mess can not be dumped on the lap of one bench player. 

Yeah, but Perk isn't taking on Pruitt or Daniels' attitude. Only Sheed's.

What attitude is that?  The whole team has been lazy.  The coaches seem to be lazy too by doing nothing. 



How do you blame all of it on one bench player? 

Is it possible the team leaders came into this season that they only needed to turn it on come playoff time and that attitude has trickled down to the role players (including Wallace)

The same way people credit Garnett with changing the whole chemistry or identity or whatever.
"If somebody would have told you when he was playing with the Knicks that Nate Robinson was going to change a big time game and he was going to do it mostly because of his defense, somebody would have got slapped."  Mark Jackson

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2010, 11:47:52 AM »

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I blame Williams.  He came the same time as Wallace.


Or how about Daniels.  He's  new as well.



I want to blame Hudson, but he is not longer here.




Finally, I got it.  It was the loss of Gabe Pruitt.





Honestly, this mess can not be dumped on the lap of one bench player. 

Yeah, but Perk isn't taking on Pruitt or Daniels' attitude. Only Sheed's.

What attitude is that?  The whole team has been lazy.  The coaches seem to be lazy too by doing nothing. 



How do you blame all of it on one bench player? 

Is it possible the team leaders came into this season that they only needed to turn it on come playoff time and that attitude has trickled down to the role players (including Wallace)

The same way people credit Garnett with changing the whole chemistry or identity or whatever.

Because KG is the team leader.  I put more blame on him for the current situation right now then I do Wallace.  KG, Pierce and Ray are suppose to be the leaders.  Instead, they question the coaches plan.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2010, 11:51:53 AM »

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Oh wow, I find myself agreeing with everything Birdbrain says tonight....the voice of reason. Thank you for that.
Yeah, I too remember the panting for Sheed and how he was going to save our team and all that. Now you would think he has committed serious criminal offenses and plays the games naked or something!
Sheed is good, no he is great. And he's not lazy!! How would anyone know anyway? How does one know what goes on in another's head? His 3 pointers have helped the team tremendouly and he can defend amazing. He's also a very good shooter. I love the guy and am glad we have him.

TP.

And he was the Best available Big out there in July 2009. The only other option was Antonio McDyess.

Yes Sheed's play has seemed confusing to me at times, but he has in fact won some games for us, a few big ones too (In San Antonio, Started in Toronto Game with 29 pts, played Huge in ORL on Christmas).

The man even admitted once we signed him that his lift isn't there anymore..he's 35. You can still see him get up every now and then, though.

No offense to McDyess, but Sheed has in fact played better than him this year-ESPN Stats:

Sheed---9.5 pts, 4.1 rebs, 0.8 blks, 1.1 assists, 1.1 steals, .82 turnovers.

McDyess---6 pts, 5.7 rebs, 0.4 blks, 0.9 assists, .62 steals, .87 turnovers.

I'm overall happy with the man, and expect to see him help us more in the playoffs.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2010, 11:59:23 AM »

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Rasheed is not playing/has not played the we all wanted him to...but he hasn't infected the team with anything. How can you blame one single player for the team's woes? The team's slump this season has got nothing to do with Rasheed...and he is certainly no virus.
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Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2010, 12:55:35 PM »

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I'm not going to blame this team's lack of effort all on Sheed.  Notwithstanding such, Sheed's lack of effort on the defensive side of the ball is deplorable. 

Two plays from yesterday stuck out to me.  The first was the play where Sheed was the only guy back from the Cs on defense and he failed to make any effort to move 3 feet to defend the lone Cav offensive player on a long pass from James resulting in an uncontested layup.  Again, I'd like to emphasize that there was only 1 Cav player anywhere near the hoop let alone across half court.  After the play, I noticed that Perk started grimacing and speaking to Sheed back up the court.  If I'm Doc, Sheed would have become attached to the bench right after that play.

The other play that stood out to me was where Sheed was supposedly playing help defense and just sat there and watch Varejao crash the boards and get an uncontested layup.  Now, if Sheed was actually trapping the ball with another Cs player, I'd have no problem.  But, as usual, Sheed was lazy to trap and then even lazier to box out.  I believe one of the play-by-play guys called out Sheed on the play and said his effort was lacking.

Sheed's lack of effort is simply disgusting.  During the championship run, the thing that resonated with me about this team was was that they played ball the "right" way.  Passing, playing good defense, etc.  What strikes me about this team is that they are doing all the things that turns most people, including me, off about the NBA.  Isolation, no defense, etc.

Finally, I have a great idea.  If some players on this team cannot motivate themselves to turn up their effort for the regular reason, how about we sit their as#2s on the bench until they are ready to give the effort necessary.

I'd rather lose games with guys busting their butts for 48 minutes then win with guys like Sheed that are out there on auto-pilot and put forth absolutely no effort.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2010, 01:50:22 PM »

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I'm not going to blame this team's lack of effort all on Sheed.  Notwithstanding such, Sheed's lack of effort on the defensive side of the ball is deplorable. 

Two plays from yesterday stuck out to me.  The first was the play where Sheed was the only guy back from the Cs on defense and he failed to make any effort to move 3 feet to defend the lone Cav offensive player on a long pass from James resulting in an uncontested layup.  Again, I'd like to emphasize that there was only 1 Cav player anywhere near the hoop let alone across half court.  After the play, I noticed that Perk started grimacing and speaking to Sheed back up the court.  If I'm Doc, Sheed would have become attached to the bench right after that play.

The other play that stood out to me was where Sheed was supposedly playing help defense and just sat there and watch Varejao crash the boards and get an uncontested layup.  Now, if Sheed was actually trapping the ball with another Cs player, I'd have no problem.  But, as usual, Sheed was lazy to trap and then even lazier to box out.  I believe one of the play-by-play guys called out Sheed on the play and said his effort was lacking.

Sheed's lack of effort is simply disgusting.  During the championship run, the thing that resonated with me about this team was was that they played ball the "right" way.  Passing, playing good defense, etc.  What strikes me about this team is that they are doing all the things that turns most people, including me, off about the NBA.  Isolation, no defense, etc.

Finally, I have a great idea.  If some players on this team cannot motivate themselves to turn up their effort for the regular reason, how about we sit their as#2s on the bench until they are ready to give the effort necessary.

I'd rather lose games with guys busting their butts for 48 minutes then win with guys like Sheed that are out there on auto-pilot and put forth absolutely no effort.
Yep, I agree with all this.  Sheed was disgusting yesterday, as he has been most of the year.  And McDyess wasn't the only other big available.  Drew Gooden's rebounding would look pretty nice on our team right now.  And if we signed Birdman instead of POB last year we never would have needed Sheed to begin with.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2010, 02:00:23 PM »

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I'm not going to blame this team's lack of effort all on Sheed.  Notwithstanding such, Sheed's lack of effort on the defensive side of the ball is deplorable. 

Two plays from yesterday stuck out to me.  The first was the play where Sheed was the only guy back from the Cs on defense and he failed to make any effort to move 3 feet to defend the lone Cav offensive player on a long pass from James resulting in an uncontested layup.  Again, I'd like to emphasize that there was only 1 Cav player anywhere near the hoop let alone across half court.  After the play, I noticed that Perk started grimacing and speaking to Sheed back up the court.  If I'm Doc, Sheed would have become attached to the bench right after that play.

The other play that stood out to me was where Sheed was supposedly playing help defense and just sat there and watch Varejao crash the boards and get an uncontested layup.  Now, if Sheed was actually trapping the ball with another Cs player, I'd have no problem.  But, as usual, Sheed was lazy to trap and then even lazier to box out.  I believe one of the play-by-play guys called out Sheed on the play and said his effort was lacking.

Sheed's lack of effort is simply disgusting.  During the championship run, the thing that resonated with me about this team was was that they played ball the "right" way.  Passing, playing good defense, etc.  What strikes me about this team is that they are doing all the things that turns most people, including me, off about the NBA.  Isolation, no defense, etc.

Finally, I have a great idea.  If some players on this team cannot motivate themselves to turn up their effort for the regular reason, how about we sit their as#2s on the bench until they are ready to give the effort necessary.

I'd rather lose games with guys busting their butts for 48 minutes then win with guys like Sheed that are out there on auto-pilot and put forth absolutely no effort.
Yep, I agree with all this.  Sheed was disgusting yesterday, as he has been most of the year.  And McDyess wasn't the only other big available.  Drew Gooden's rebounding would look pretty nice on our team right now.  And if we signed Birdman instead of POB last year we never would have needed Sheed to begin with.
Bingo,you are correct in my opinion,whose to blame?I feel Danny is the guy who is responsible for figuring what players are needed from season to season.By not bringing any athleticism into the mix,it didn't help this aging team stay on top.I have said this from the beginning,and if you look around the league at the top teams,even the Cavs had to mix young athletic talent to compliment Lebron.tp

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2010, 02:27:57 PM »

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watching Rasheed play is the most stressful sports related part of my life right now

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #103 on: March 15, 2010, 02:45:41 PM »

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Because KG is the team leader. 

And who leads KG?
In the summer of 2017, I predicted this team would not win a championship for the next 10 years.

3 down, 7 to go.

Re: Did Rasheed Infect the Team with "Lazy"?
« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2010, 02:48:14 PM »

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