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Championship Rotation
« on: February 18, 2010, 01:57:50 PM »

Offline GranTur

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2010 Basic Current Rotation
Rondo   Nate
Ray        Tony
Paul       Marquis
KG         Baby
Perk      Rasheed

2008 Basic Playoff Rotation
Rondo    Cassell
Ray         House
Paul       Posey
KG          Powe
Perk        P.J.

If Marquis can play above average defense, our bench is BETTER than our championship bench. Baby, Rasheed, and Nate can create their own offense a whole lot better than Sam, House, Leon, and P.J. could.

>>The only question is this..........
>>Is the [BENCH IMPROVEMENT] greater than the [STARTERS' DECLINE]?
"It's not how you play the game. It's whether you win or lose--that's my motto." -Larry Bird

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 02:02:01 PM »

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2010 Basic Current Rotation
Rondo   Nate
Ray        Tony
Paul       Marquis
KG         Baby
Perk      Rasheed

2008 Basic Playoff Rotation
Rondo    Cassell
Ray         House
Paul       Posey
KG          Powe
Perk        P.J.

If Marquis can play above average defense, our bench is BETTER than our championship bench. Baby, Rasheed, and Nate can create their own offense a whole lot better than Sam, House, Leon, and P.J. could.

>>The only question is this..........
>>Is the [BENCH IMPROVEMENT] greater than the [STARTERS' DECLINE]?

I don't see any improvement, are you kidding? Posey, House, Leon...

Let me say that second team can't shoot, and this can be a big problem

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 02:03:19 PM »

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>>The only question is this..........
>>Is the [BENCH IMPROVEMENT] greater than the [STARTERS' DECLINE]?

You would think that a better bench coupled with the improvements of Rondo and Perk would offset the decline of the big 3...we'll see...

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 02:03:34 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao
Pick 2 Knicks

PG: George Hill, Ty Lawson
SG: Ray Allen, Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 02:05:48 PM »

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>>The only question is this..........
>>Is the [BENCH IMPROVEMENT] greater than the [STARTERS' DECLINE]?

The Million $ Question.  It boils down to Pierce and KG being healthy. Ainge has done his job, and upgraded the bench from last season. Now its Doc's turn to Coach.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 02:07:23 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao


  Sure. I wonder if the number of people who award them the title before March will approach the number of people that did last year. Lucky for you, there's always room on their bandwagon.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 02:08:53 PM »

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It all comes down to KG's health.  That should be obvious, but I think a lot of folks are writing us off, without leaving any possibility that KG can bounce back.

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Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 02:09:02 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao


  Sure. I wonder if the number of people who award them the title before March will approach the number of people that did last year. Lucky for you, there's always room on their bandwagon.
I hate the Cavs

I just think they got better and are already the best so far this year

I live and die by the C's but just don't see it happening this year

I'll cheer them on every game, just don't see it this year
Pick 2 Knicks

PG: George Hill, Ty Lawson
SG: Ray Allen, Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 02:09:49 PM »

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I don't see any improvement, are you kidding? Posey, House, Leon...

Let me say that second team can't shoot, and this can be a big problem

Actually if you combine their 07-08 playoff numbers...
Posey (6.7 ppg, 22 minutes)
House (2.5 ppg, 8 minutes)
Powe (5 ppg, 12 minutes)
...combined for LESS THAN 15 POINTS in 42 MINUTES PER GAME.

Pretty sure Nate and Rasheed will get 20 PPG between them in the playoffs no problem.
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Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 02:11:40 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao


Not sure about that.

We'll probably have problems against both Clev. and Atl., but think we matchup really well against Orlando since they no longer have Turk and we do a great job against Howard.

Cleveland matches up poorly vs the Magic, but look good vs us and could probably sweep Atl.

Atlanta will struggle against Magic and Cavs, but could potentially best us in a series.

Playoff seedings are probably going to make a big difference this yr.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 02:14:03 PM »

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It all comes down to KG's health.  That should be obvious, but I think a lot of folks are writing us off, without leaving any possibility that KG can bounce back.

Somehow KG's health has gotten lost in shuffle. If he is healthy they could ride out any Ray Allen shooting slump.

Im still holding out hope that he will get better. As soon as I see him start catching lobs and blocking shots again, I will be a lot more optimistic.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 02:14:44 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao


You forgot Big Z who supposedly is going to get bought out and return to the Cavs in 30 days.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 02:15:28 PM »

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Because of the Jamison move, I don't know about the Cavs. Before the move I'd have said the Celtics > Cavs in a series.

Thankfully we can beat Orlando and push against Atlanta in a 7-game series.

Hopefully we face Orlando with a relatively healthy KG in the Conf. Finals.
"It's not how you play the game. It's whether you win or lose--that's my motto." -Larry Bird

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 02:16:09 PM »

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There is no way this bench is better than the championship team's bench.  Posey alone was a huge key to the championship.  Clutch 3's, backing up almost every position, big steals and tough defense.  I don't care about their scoring averages when I think about Posey.  This team is not good enough to win this year.  I think the reason everyone is writing off KG is because he looks terrible and cannot move.  I don't give him much of chance of becoming anything close to the KG of old.

By the way, if you ask me if I want the Posey of 2008, or the Sheed and Quis of 2010, it's a no-brainer - Posey by a landslide, especially with the starters we have.

Re: Championship Rotation
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 02:17:59 PM »

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Here's your 2010 Championship Rotation

PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Dibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: Lebron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Antawn Jamison/JJ Hickson
C: Shquille O'Neal/Anderson Varejao


  Sure. I wonder if the number of people who award them the title before March will approach the number of people that did last year. Lucky for you, there's always room on their bandwagon.
I hate the Cavs

I just think they got better and are already the best so far this year

I live and die by the C's but just don't see it happening this year

I'll cheer them on every game, just don't see it this year

  The Cavs don't seem to be any better this year than they were last year.