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How to stop the huge runs
« on: February 15, 2010, 02:22:33 PM »

Offline Spicoli

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What are some suggestions for stopping the huge 10-0, 15-0 runs that teams have been putting on us lately? Should doc call timeouts after a 6-0 run or something? Should the entire lineup which gives up said run be yanked to send a message? What can be done to stop these huge runs? Obviously if they can minimize these enormous runs that teams are putting on them, a lot of these losses will turn into wins.

Any suggestions?

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 02:28:08 PM »

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What are some suggestions for stopping the huge 10-0, 15-0 runs that teams have been putting on us lately? Should doc call timeouts after a 6-0 run or something? Should the entire lineup which gives up said run be yanked to send a message? What can be done to stop these huge runs? Obviously if they can minimize these enormous runs that teams are putting on them, a lot of these losses will turn into wins.

Any suggestions?

Have the whole team healthy like they were the first 25 games of the season? 

I know the team has looked lethargic, but the team also hasn't played as a consistent unit for much of the past two months. 

Part of the reason this team never really faced these dry-runs before was because even when one or two of our stars went cold, someone else was hot.  The problem has been much of the past two months, that one or more of our stars hasn't been playing.  KG missed a few weeks, then when he came back Pierce missed some time and played at less than 100%.  Then even last game, Ray misses. 

It finally seems like everyone may be healthy.  If they can stay that way, that in itself should do a lot to keep these huge runs from happening. 

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 02:38:51 PM »

Offline Greenbean

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Score points.

Everyone is saying this team isn't playing defense but it's their inability to score that is leading to big runs. How do we score more points?

Ray has to get out of his slump. Pierce needs the spring back in his step that he had in the beginning of the year. Rondo needs to push the tempo more and be more aggressive.

KG being able to actually jump and catch lobs would be gravy.

Not sure if any of that is possible. But really...all of the team's go to scorers are old and limping. They needed rest. Was the AS break enough? Well see.

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 02:39:40 PM »

Offline ScoobyDoo

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Great question/Post, TP.

If I was coaching?

#1. After about 10-0, someone on the other team should clearly be on the floor. That's number one. These guys, right now, stand around like a bunch of wusses getting butts handed to them on these runs. They need to clock someone. Make it physical. Pretend like they want to be on the court and pretend they don't like getting it "stuck" to them like this. This would be a great start. Have some heart and show it with a meassage.  

#2. Stop shooting jump shots when you are not making them and take the ball to the basket. This is BBall 101. Take everythign to the rim, literally. I'd insturct everyone to try and dunk every shot or to basically go head long for the rim. Three good things happen; you either score because you are closer, get fouled and three it lends itself to #1 above...you make it physical.

I CANNOT STAND IT when these guys just jack up lazy jump shots when they are getting hammered. Go to the basket and lift some people, get them in foul trouble.

3. If KG or Pierce aren't putting it forth, yank them. I don't care if they're Michael Jordan. Yank them. I'd rather see Giddens on the floor with all his manic energy and effort ( if futile) than see anyone "mailing it in".

So I might bench them and ask them to let me know if and when they have any interest in playign baksketball with some heart, ferocity and physical intensity. And if it's an injury problem with KG then put baby in and run his butt around for 10-15 games until he drops another 10-15 pounds.

I see most of their problems as pretty simple to solve.

And that is why it's so incredibly frustrating to wath them lately.

I don't think they're too old or too injured. The biggest problem is playign without a sense of urgency and they also make incredibly stupid passess and plays sometimes. it's mind boggling how many cross court passes and soft, dangerous passes for turnovers they make. For a team with perkins and four all stars, you'd think they'd be lowest in the elague in turnovers.  

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 02:54:29 PM »

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Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 03:26:48 PM »

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I think we're going to need to trade Ray for something big. Like scooby doo said, if Paul or KG aren't playing with energy, yank 'em! But how much damage can Giddens realistically do, no matter how energized and enthusiastic? Let's see Danny go get Kevin Martin, Nocioni, and Beno Uridho (sp?) from Sac in exchange of Ray+House+TA. Our starting 5 will have more firepower, and our old guys (Paul+KG) can rest more, giving them more energy to perform when called upon. With Beno, we can get a PG who can run the offense and score, and Nocioni will can prevent the likes of Vince Carter and D-Wade going on huge runs in the 3rd.


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Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 03:40:14 PM »

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i think its odd that these things happen right after halftime. maybe greg-kite is right, no more halftime taco bell.
seriously though don't let these old legs get cold. turn the heat up in the locker room, bring in hot tubs, put KG, PP and Ray on exercise bikes, something, just keep em warm the second half starts.
then tell rajon that someone on the opposing team just insulted his mama.

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 03:46:56 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjbwA8JDW4

then tell rajon that someone on the opposing team just insulted his mama.

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 03:47:57 PM »

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Great question/Post, TP.

If I was coaching?

#1. After about 10-0, someone on the other team should clearly be on the floor. That's number one. These guys, right now, stand around like a bunch of wusses getting butts handed to them on these runs. They need to clock someone. Make it physical. Pretend like they want to be on the court and pretend they don't like getting it "stuck" to them like this. This would be a great start. Have some heart and show it with a meassage.  

#2. Stop shooting jump shots when you are not making them and take the ball to the basket. This is BBall 101. Take everythign to the rim, literally. I'd insturct everyone to try and dunk every shot or to basically go head long for the rim. Three good things happen; you either score because you are closer, get fouled and three it lends itself to #1 above...you make it physical.

I CANNOT STAND IT when these guys just jack up lazy jump shots when they are getting hammered. Go to the basket and lift some people, get them in foul trouble.

3. If KG or Pierce aren't putting it forth, yank them. I don't care if they're Michael Jordan. Yank them. I'd rather see Giddens on the floor with all his manic energy and effort ( if futile) than see anyone "mailing it in".

So I might bench them and ask them to let me know if and when they have any interest in playign baksketball with some heart, ferocity and physical intensity. And if it's an injury problem with KG then put baby in and run his butt around for 10-15 games until he drops another 10-15 pounds.

I see most of their problems as pretty simple to solve.

And that is why it's so incredibly frustrating to wath them lately.

I don't think they're too old or too injured. The biggest problem is playign without a sense of urgency and they also make incredibly stupid passess and plays sometimes. it's mind boggling how many cross court passes and soft, dangerous passes for turnovers they make. For a team with perkins and four all stars, you'd think they'd be lowest in the elague in turnovers.  

TP, Scoob.

My first thought when I read the OP was "McHale/Rambis".

Your post was much more thoughtful.

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 03:48:18 PM »

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Play better defense and more effective offense
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Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 04:50:00 PM »

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put walker, giddens, Scal, Shelden and Sheed to shot 3s

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Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 05:03:55 PM »

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Beat me to it. Nice one. TP for you.
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Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 05:11:12 PM »

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score in the half court consistently ...

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 05:27:43 PM »

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make them give a [dang] about winning and not constantly embarrassing themselves losing primarily due to their own incompetence.  These are very winnable games that they're losing.  We were sold a bill of goods by C's management that experience wins games.  Well, we've got plenty of experience and we're losing for no good reason.

Re: How to stop the huge runs
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 05:29:17 PM »

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make them give a [dang] about winning and not constantly embarrassing themselves losing primarily due to their own incompetence.  These are very winnable games that they're losing.  We were sold a bill of goods by C's management that experience wins games.  Well, we've got plenty of experience and we're losing for no good reason.

A little perspective.  They are in good shape for a Top 4 seed.  They only have to get well by April ... winning on the road will have to be a reality either way.  Would be hard to respect them if they were incompetent on the road anyway.