Blow it all up

[Jon Niednagel]

You are correct. I spoke to soon and should have looked it up first. TP to you sir. There is also no mid-level if the C's are below the cap, so I may need to re-think this. However, depending on what they (the C's FAs) resign for, there is still plenty of money left over to take someone like Iggy or Martin off some team's hands without having to match salaries.

[ToppersBsktball10]

uhhhmmm no thank you. all horrible ideas.

[Brickowski]

Doing nothing is not an option.

[BballTim]

Doing nothing is not an option.

  I think minor trades and a buyout player would be an option this year. I'm not so sure that we're completely cooked. The 90s were painful but I don't know that I want to trade a shot at another title for the chance to be better, but still not a contender, when this run is over.

[Birdbrain]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

[Brickowski]

Doing nothing is not an option.

  I think minor trades and a buyout player would be an option this year. I'm not so sure that we're completely cooked. The 90s were painful but I don't know that I want to trade a shot at another title for the chance to be better, but still not a contender, when this run is over.

This run is already over.  It was over months ago. They have no shot at another title as presently constituted.

[Jon Niednagel]

Blow it all up idea #2 (Bos-Sac-Phi):

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Ray Allen and Kendrick Perkins  

Outgoing Players
Andre Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert

Boston Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Andre Iguodala, Samuel Dalembert, Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas, Andres Nocioni, and Donte Greene
  
Outgoing Players
Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rasheed Wallace, Kendrick Perkins, and J.R. Giddens
 
Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Paul Pierce, Rasheed Wallace, and J.R. Giddens

Outgoing Players
Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas, Andres Nocioni, and Donte Greene

The Celtics have players locked up for a while (except Dalembert) and decrease salary significantly.

2010/2011 roster:
Rajon Rondo   $9,090,909
Kevin Martin   $10,600,005
Andre Iguodala   $12,345,250
Kevin Garnett   $18,832,044
Samuel Dalembert   $12,912,823
Eddie House   3,000,000 (re-signed)
Marquis Daniels   4,000,000 (re-signed)
Andres Nocioni   $6,850,000
Glen Davis   $3,000,004
Donte Greene   $930,700
Tony Allen   $3,000,000 (re-signed)
Bill Walker   $854,389
1st   $1,000,000
2nd   $450,000

Total   $73,953,301

This year's salary $84,045,132

Thus, the C's save over $10,000,000 in salary (and that does not even include luxury tax savings), get a lot younger, and have most everyone on the roster tied up. I think that is how I would like to blow it up if I were going to do it.

Problems:
I'm not sure the 76rs do this with Sammy, and probably demand that Brand be included instead. Also, not sure if the Kings would do this even though it would make them much more competitive, they may see Paul's salary as a negative even though they shed Nocioni, and they probably view Sheed as a negative although they need someone like him pretty badly. Therefore, they may prefer to just stay young and let things develop. It would be something to consider though if the clubs were willing.

[BballTim]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

  Rondo gets there the most. 50% of his shots, compared to 30% for Pierce. He gets to the rim about 1.5 times as often as Paul.

[BballTim]

Doing nothing is not an option.

  I think minor trades and a buyout player would be an option this year. I'm not so sure that we're completely cooked. The 90s were painful but I don't know that I want to trade a shot at another title for the chance to be better, but still not a contender, when this run is over.

This run is already over.  It was over months ago. They have no shot at another title as presently constituted.

  If you don't think the team will get any healthier you might be right. If you think that they can't contend if Paul and KG are as healthy as they were before Xmas I disagree.

[Birdbrain]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

  Rondo gets there the most. 50% of his shots, compared to 30% for Pierce. He gets to the rim about 1.5 times as often as Paul.

I meant of those that are reliable.

[BballTim]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

  Rondo gets there the most. 50% of his shots, compared to 30% for Pierce. He gets to the rim about 1.5 times as often as Paul.

I meant of those that are reliable.

  Because, of course, Paul hits 60% of his inside shots while Rondo only hits about 68% of his...

[acieEarl]

Dislike the Ray Allen trade -- just let him expire -- plus trade BBD for an expiring

Build around Rondo + Perk in free agency.

I agree about building around Rondo and Perk as they are the future. I'd love to see R Allen expire and we spend the money to sign Rudy Gay, but from what I've read because we're over the cap we'll not have all that money once Allen comes off the books. Are only logical move maybe to trade him as I don't think we'll have the money to throw at Gay. Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

[Birdbrain]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

  Rondo gets there the most. 50% of his shots, compared to 30% for Pierce. He gets to the rim about 1.5 times as often as Paul.

I meant of those that are reliable.

  Because, of course, Paul hits 60% of his inside shots while Rondo only hits about 68% of his...

From the FT line which I thought was the discussion.  Rondo technically gets there more but makes way less due to being poor FT shooter.  Of those that can actually make them paul is way ahead.

[Jon]

Too early.  And it has nothing to do with anything about this team.  Too often in all sports teams that look great at the All Star break look bad come playoff time and vice versa. 

This team obviously has ability.  They started off great.  They haven't aged that much in a few months.  They at least deserve one more shot.

Those that want to blow it up aren't taking into account how little of a chance we have to be this good again anytime in the near future. 

[BballTim]

No, taking it to the rack is always more effective than outside shooting.  It gets the other team into foul trouble.
But the days of Pierce shooting 10 free throws a game are long gone. He's playing rocking chair basketball now.

Sadly on this team he still gets there more than anyone else.  He's more than adequate. 

  Rondo gets there the most. 50% of his shots, compared to 30% for Pierce. He gets to the rim about 1.5 times as often as Paul.

I meant of those that are reliable.

  Because, of course, Paul hits 60% of his inside shots while Rondo only hits about 68% of his...

From the FT line which I thought was the discussion.  Rondo technically gets there more but makes way less due to being poor FT shooter.  Of those that can actually make them paul is way ahead.

  I'll take a big "never mind!" on this one. I thought we were talking about taking it to the rack.