Celtics Trades I'd Like to See That Do Not Involve Ray Allen

[snively]

1. Glenn Davis for Julian Wright.  Davis would put fannies in the seats in New Orleans.  Meanwhile, Wright is an excellent defender and slasher who is 4 inches taller than Tony Allen, who may or may not be back.

2. Eddie House, J.R. Giddens and a second round pick for Sergio Rodriguez and Mikki Moore.  Moore (expiring) is just cap fodder and would be waived.  The Kings have a surplus of point guards, the Celtics need one. I would also trade House for any number of guys who would be decent backup point guards, e.g. Goran Dragic.

3. Brian Scalabrine (expiring) and cash for Renaldo Balkman and filler (e.g. Anthony Carter).  Saves Denver money and gives Boston an active player who likes to run.

I like the 1st one but can't make it work on the trade machine.  I wonder if Scal and a pick would entice them.

Wright's a great guy for Doc to put on Rashard Lewis, Lamar Odom, Antawn Jamison, Al Harrington and other such quick 4s who traditionally cause us so much problems.  And unlike Scal, he can rebound, run the floor and finish once in awhile.

[CoachBo]

I like Davis for Wright; there's nothing else here that remotely interests me. Wright's athletic, Davis never will be.

[More Banners]

Who said anything about stars?  I'm looking for complementary players.  Do you think you are going to get a star for Brian Scalabrine and Eddie House? Do you think you will get a star drafting in the late 20's?

If they want stars to go with Rondo and Perkins, they will have to trade their old stars with expiring contracts for younger stars with longer contracts.  There's no other way.  The idea of getting way under the cap to get a star free agent is pie in the sky, and even if you could, you would need more than one (as you said).

Need some shooters to complement Rondo, otherwise they'll just pack the paint to cut off his penetration.  Need hustle defenders and runners, too, but shooting is a must.

On Banks:  McHale gave him that horrible contract that he's now in the last year of.  PHX traded for him in a larger deal, I think.  Nobody else signed him to anything.

[snively]

Who said anything about stars?  I'm looking for complementary players.  Do you think you are going to get a star for Brian Scalabrine and Eddie House? Do you think you will get a star drafting in the late 20's?

If they want stars to go with Rondo and Perkins, they will have to trade their old stars with expiring contracts for younger stars with longer contracts.  There's no other way.  The idea of getting way under the cap to get a star free agent is pie in the sky, and even if you could, you would need more than one (as you said).

Need some shooters to complement Rondo, otherwise they'll just pack the paint to cut off his penetration.  Need hustle defenders and runners, too, but shooting is a must.

On Banks:  McHale gave him that horrible contract that he's now in the last year of.  PHX traded for him in a larger deal, I think.  Nobody else signed him to anything.

I believe D'Antoni signed him actually.  McHale had traded for him previously.

[BballTim]

Who said anything about stars?  I'm looking for complementary players.  Do you think you are going to get a star for Brian Scalabrine and Eddie House? Do you think you will get a star drafting in the late 20's?

If they want stars to go with Rondo and Perkins, they will have to trade their old stars with expiring contracts for younger stars with longer contracts.  There's no other way.  The idea of getting way under the cap to get a star free agent is pie in the sky, and even if you could, you would need more than one (as you said).

Need some shooters to complement Rondo, otherwise they'll just pack the paint to cut off his penetration.  Need hustle defenders and runners, too, but shooting is a must.

On Banks:  McHale gave him that horrible contract that he's now in the last year of.  PHX traded for him in a larger deal, I think.  Nobody else signed him to anything.

  Phoenix signed him and Minny was going to give him a contract if he didn't sign with the Suns.

[DinTN]

Glad this topic was started. We need a trade to upgrade the bench but the starting 5 are OK. Don't see Daniels (signed a small contract to come to Boston) or Sheed (too many years & $$ & age) to be going anywhere anytime soon.

Would like to add Jared Jeffries. He's 6'11'' and on the block from NY. NY is interested in expiring contracts and contacts that allow them leverage in the LeBron sweepstakes next year.

Would like a backup PG. When Rondo is out our offense stalls. Sessions or Larry Hughes would be nice. Maybe a veteran PG via a buyout if trade doesn't go through.

Whatever we do we also need to keep in mind we need person(s) to guard Kobe & Lebron. In other words, if we're counting on Daniels to guard Kobe, don't trade him leaving us more exposed on defense unless finding a better defender.

TP for starting this Topic.

Thanks for listening... 

[hehateme22]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yk6l7nr

imo if there is anyway we could get an actual pg we need to do it. i like daniels off the bench as the pg with eddie house and ta. ta can d up the a wing with daniels as eddie will get the opposing teams pg. then on offense Quisy will bring up the ball and have house, wallace and davis as shooters, with TA the drive and kick guy. now if we could get a 6'1-6'2 pg to play small but valuable minutes in the playoffs that would be huge. they only way philly does the the above trade is if they really want to shed cap. chris duhon is another option. and then there is the by out options after the trade deadline. this more than anything else imo is what the celtics need to do.if they do i love there bench

rondo  daniels pg?
r.allen house
pierce TA
garnett davis williams
perkins wallace

[hehateme22]

yes if we could get sessions for a expiring contract like Scal that would be golden, and the best option. they're contracts work in the trade machine. and with minny probably getting rubio back next year i think they would want to rid themselves on session's contract with flynn as more or less the same player

[hehateme22]

you cant really trade davis for wright contracts dont work. i can  see Daniels covering the quick forwards such as lewis and odom. Josh Smith gives us the most problems. but i agree wright would help us a lot

[hehateme22]

TA for Wright would work

[hehateme22]

so basically the perfect fit to me would be

the current starters

daniels sessions
house
wright
davis
wallace williams 

[scoop]

you cant really trade davis for wright contracts dont work. i can  see Daniels covering the quick forwards such as lewis and odom. Josh Smith gives us the most problems. but i agree wright would help us a lot

Daniels is 6'5'', 200lbs. He'll struggle to guard Artest or LeBron James, let alone those guys.

[Brickowski]

you cant really trade davis for wright contracts dont work. i can  see Daniels covering the quick forwards such as lewis and odom. Josh Smith gives us the most problems. but i agree wright would help us a lot

Both teams have the fodder to make it work.  NO throws in Sean Marks or Aaron Gray, the Celtics throw in some cash and agree to waive Marks if for some reason NO wants him back.

[hehateme22]

well first he is 6'6. and lewis is soft he just needs to get up into his body. with artest you just need to stay in front of him. and no one can really guard lebron 1 on 1 you guard him with team defense. and Odom mostly plays pf  kg and wallace  have shown they can gaurd him. with that said i would love to get julian wright at 6'8 and athletic to guard these people so daniels can gaurd more sg/sf types

also i think the celtics think scal can guard those pf/sf types but to me that is a mistake. however we dont make the moves so i think we might be stuck with what we have. and hope kg and team defense can help us through the playoffs

[hehateme22]

you cant really trade davis for wright contracts dont work. i can  see Daniels covering the quick forwards such as lewis and odom. Josh Smith gives us the most problems. but i agree wright would help us a lot

Both teams have the fodder to make it work.  NO throws in Sean Marks or Aaron Gray, the Celtics throw in some cash and agree to waive Marks if for some reason NO wants him back.

well either way i wouldn't want to trade davis for wright, i rather trade TA because i think daniels can do what he did but better, also then you get thin up front if you trade davis for wright. wright is more or less TA with 4 more inches.