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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #555 on: February 11, 2010, 06:23:13 PM »

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Alright, so my team is more or less complete - any trades from here on in will likely only involve bench pieces.

PG: Rafer Alston / Daniel Gibson
SG: James Harden / Marquis Daniels
SF: Rudy Gay / Jarvis Hayes
PF: Blake Griffin / Joe Smith
C:  Joakim Noah / Marreese Speights / Theo Ratliff

I also own the rights to Ricky Rubio, who will step in as the starting PG when he enters the league.

Thoughts?

Interesting team.  I don't know if you have the PGs to help the two young offensive players the way they need to be helped. 

And will those offensive players mature enough to help Rubio when he does come over. 



Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #556 on: February 11, 2010, 06:30:11 PM »

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Alright, so my team is more or less complete - any trades from here on in will likely only involve bench pieces.

PG: Rafer Alston / Daniel Gibson
SG: James Harden / Marquis Daniels
SF: Rudy Gay / Jarvis Hayes
PF: Blake Griffin / Joe Smith
C:  Joakim Noah / Marreese Speights / Theo Ratliff

I also own the rights to Ricky Rubio, who will step in as the starting PG when he enters the league.

Thoughts?

Interesting team.  I don't know if you have the PGs to help the two young offensive players the way they need to be helped. 

And will those offensive players mature enough to help Rubio when he does come over. 


Yeah, I've been worried about that.  Not about the PG position, exactly - Rafer is serviceable, if not great, as a floor leader in my opinion - but in the general youth of my team.  I don't really have any leaders on my team.

I'm hoping that they'll be able to come together on their own, kinda like OKC and, to a lesser extent, Portland have done.

TP for the input.

Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #557 on: February 11, 2010, 06:34:53 PM »

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Alright, so my team is more or less complete - any trades from here on in will likely only involve bench pieces.

PG: Rafer Alston / Daniel Gibson
SG: James Harden / Marquis Daniels
SF: Rudy Gay / Jarvis Hayes
PF: Blake Griffin / Joe Smith
C:  Joakim Noah / Marreese Speights / Theo Ratliff

I also own the rights to Ricky Rubio, who will step in as the starting PG when he enters the league.

Thoughts?

An interesting mix. I love the potential/promise of the young core of Rubio/Harden/Gay/Griffin/Noah. I suppose that it will take some time to determine what exactly you have, though, which is unfortunate.

I also like the veterans you have to help the young-uns along. Daniels is a good complement to the shoot-first Gibson. Hayes should still have something in the tank to back up Harden and Gay.

Smith and Ratliff are a little old to be anything but mentors/towel wavers. I'd like to see you use whatever picks remaining to get another PF, and perhaps another young, athletic wing prospect.
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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #558 on: February 11, 2010, 06:58:13 PM »

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Alright, so my team is more or less complete - any trades from here on in will likely only involve bench pieces.

PG: Rafer Alston / Daniel Gibson
SG: James Harden / Marquis Daniels
SF: Rudy Gay / Jarvis Hayes
PF: Blake Griffin / Joe Smith
C:  Joakim Noah / Marreese Speights / Theo Ratliff

I also own the rights to Ricky Rubio, who will step in as the starting PG when he enters the league.

Thoughts?

An interesting mix. I love the potential/promise of the young core of Rubio/Harden/Gay/Griffin/Noah. I suppose that it will take some time to determine what exactly you have, though, which is unfortunate.

I also like the veterans you have to help the young-uns along. Daniels is a good complement to the shoot-first Gibson. Hayes should still have something in the tank to back up Harden and Gay.

Smith and Ratliff are a little old to be anything but mentors/towel wavers. I'd like to see you use whatever picks remaining to get another PF, and perhaps another young, athletic wing prospect.

Yeah, I'm out of picks, so anything else I add to the team will come via free agency or trades.  Hayes should have plenty left, though, he's only 28 if I recall correctly.  To be honest, I kinda regret grabbing Ratliff - although I do think Smith has a little bit left. 

I'll be a lottery team for the next year or two; there's no getting around that.  That'll let me tweak my lineup with high picks in the draft though - guys like DeMarcus Cousins and Evan Turner, not to mention John Wall, would be great pieces for my team.

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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #559 on: February 11, 2010, 07:51:22 PM »

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Toronto trades Tayshaun Prince
Atlanta trades Jason Thompson

Interesting trade. Helps balance out both team's lineup in the short term.

Atlanta Hawks

Let's Atlanta move Josh Smith back to his natural position at power forward and gives Joe Johnson some legitimate help on the wing with Tayshaun taking over Marvin Williams' role. That's a quality trio at SG + SF + PF.

I would like to see Atlanta start Jordan Farmer alongside them. A more creative offensive player albeit primarily as a scorer. I don't like Derek Fisher. He can do a Bibby imitation but I don't think that's valuable. I would rather see another point guard brought in to take away his minutes if possible.

The team still needs a true center to play in the middle. Someone with a bit of muscle, some defensive ability and in particular post defense + man-to-man defense because Josh Smith already brings a lot of weakside defense but not man-to-man D against opposing bigs, and some tough rebounding ability. Another Al Horford.

Chris Andersen would make a very good backup big with his energy + effort + solid defensive/rebounding/garbage man contributions. I don't like him as the starting center but he is a good piece.

I also love Ryan Anderson as the backup power forward, he has All-Star potential if he can get his defense up to a solid level and based on his defensive improvement this season that is an achievable target. It's a shame he's stuck behind Josh Smith because he could have added huge value to a team as a low valued high quality 30-35mpg power forward.

James Posey is a good secondary reserve wing but I'd rather see someone else as the primary backup wing. Or two comparable reserve talents who's minutes vary depending on matchups.

Jordan Hill isn't a rotation worthy player but he is a decent prospect. A good rebounder and a decent garbage man offensively with a solid stand still jumper out to 20 feet. Some defense would be nice though.

So, I would like to see the Hawks add another solid reserve/rotation wing + a starting center + a Fisher replacement ... to get the most out of their core/squad.

Toronto Raptors

I'm not sure what to make of Gilbert Arenas. He has been poor this season but he's only at the early stages of his comeback attempt. He may improve and if he does he's exactly the type of prolific offensive perimeter player that this team could use.

The one major downside to Arenas is that I don't like him around JR Smith. Smith is too immature to handle playing alongside such an erratic + ball dominating point guard. So if Arenas is in the plans, then JR Smith has to go, or vice versa.

Anyway, to the rest of the team since Arenas is an X-Factor for the time being ...

Kirk Hinrich and Mario Chalmers is a good point guard rotation. Mainly because of their defense. JR Smith and Martell Webster is one of the better defensive wing combinations in the league. Combine those two elements together and you have the makings of an elite perimeter defense.

JR Smith would be the best perimeter scorer and likely a 18-20ppg threat as well as a solid passer + solid defender + solid rebounder. Martell Webster is one of the finest role players in the league with his excellent defensive play + decent rebounding (SF, good rebounding SG) and high quality complementary offensive game. Their quickness + defensive ability would make life difficult for opposing teams on a nightly basis. And, their shooting ability will keep opposing teams on their toes all night long.

There is a lack of a 3/2 type reserve player. A small forward/shooting guard. It would be preferable to have that type of role player (defender + effective offensive player) but that isn't a big deal due to Smith's + Webster's flexibility. JR Smith is a prototypical two guard who can play some time at both the three and the one while Martell Webster is a natural two guard who can double up as a three. So the Raps could field a big small forward like Jerebko or Nocioni and just keep Webster or JR Smith on the court to play the two guard position while they're out there.

Jonas Jerebko is a good utility man who can backup all three frontcourt positions. Andres Nocioni is a mediocre reserve player who provides streaky offensive player + good rebounding at the small forward position and can play the four in some small ball lineups. Nocioni is slow footed defensively at the three and struggles defensively against more PFs, that's the main reason for my interest in a quicker solid defensive reserve wing. So not the strongest at the reserve SG + SF + semi-PF positions but adequate.

Jason Thompson is a very good acquisition. He can switch between the four and five seamlessly. It allows the Raptors to put more quickness out there with their big men (Thompson vs Perkins) when required without resorting to a small ball lineup and without losing a lot of their quality rebounding.

Thompson is a very poor defensive player but he's young and capable of making large strides defensively over the next few years. He's also a skilled + versatile offensive player who is comfortable anywhere on the court. Thompson is an excellent offensive + rebounding complement to Chris Bosh when you want to put Bosh at center and create more matchup problems (very valuable!).

Nazr Mohammed is a serviceable backup center and JaVale McGee is a solid prospect at center. Nice depth as the fourth + fifth bigs in the rotation.

So, ideally -- short of acquiring an All-NBA wing -- I would like the see the Raptors add one more wing player. Someone who can play solid defense (slightly above average or better) and provide some offensive quality (either as an efficient complementary player or a go-to scorer off the bench). Also, primarily a natural small forward who is a solid rebounder (board work is important here) but is also able to matchup against some twos.

Without Gilbert Arenas, that squad is still a tad short on perimeter offense so it's important they have an effective offensive player backing up the wings. Nocioni is acceptable but Jerebko less so.

If you can't get that though, it's fine, Nocioni will do a good enough job. And Jerebko gives enough depth. Add a two guard who is a strong defensive player as a situation substitute to balance out the bench.
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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #560 on: February 12, 2010, 12:23:43 AM »

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Without a doubt:

PG: Rose
SG: Batum
SF: Gallinari
PF: David Lee
C: Chris Kaman

Bench: Holiday, Rush, Bellinelli, Pendergraph, Etan Thomas.

Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #561 on: February 12, 2010, 12:28:17 AM »

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Without a doubt:

PG: Rose
SG: Batum
SF: Gallinari
PF: David Lee
C: Chris Kaman

Bench: Holiday, Rush, Bellinelli, Pendergraph, Etan Thomas.

id say so
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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #562 on: February 12, 2010, 12:29:50 AM »

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C: Andrew Bynum
PF: Jeff Green
SF: Caron Butler
SG: Corey Brewer
PG: Tyreke Evans

Bench: David West, Jared Dudley, Marcus Thornton, Al Thorton, Kyle Lowery, Louis Amundson
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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #563 on: February 12, 2010, 12:30:44 AM »

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C: Andrew Bynum
PF: Jeff Green
SF: Caron Butler
SG: Corey Brewer
PG: Tyreke Evans

Bench: David West, Jared Dudley, Marcus Thornton, Al Thorton, Kyle Lowery, Louis Amundson

Start West.  Bench Brewer.  Move Butler to SG.  Green to SF. 

Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #564 on: February 12, 2010, 12:32:07 AM »

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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #565 on: February 12, 2010, 12:39:39 AM »

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Have to agree with you, Truck and KC ... definite improvements. I think my team has improved as well:

C  - Mehmet Okur
PF - Al Harrington
SF - Carmelo Anthony
SG - Josh Howard
PG - Chauncey Billups

Bench - Ryan Hollins, Vladimir Radmanovich, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Devin Brown, Jerryd Bayless, CJ Watson.

Love this team. Man, it would be so cool to actually watch these teams of ours compete ... guess we'll never know, but it sure has been fun. Still think we should do some historical "Pick Two"s ... poll to pick a year and then draft from that year's roster. I've thoroughly enjoyed this. ;)
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« Reply #566 on: February 12, 2010, 12:40:34 AM »

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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #567 on: February 12, 2010, 12:44:35 AM »

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booom here it is

PG: Jarrett Jack
SG: Stephen Jackson
SF:Shawn Marion
PF: Tim Duncan
Center Samuel Dalembert

Bench: Leandro Barbosa, Chris Duhon, Darrell Arthur (back healthy and played 20 mins in last game), Larry Hughes, Roger Mason Jr., Joel Anthony


Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #568 on: February 12, 2010, 12:45:08 AM »

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Have to agree with you, Truck and KC ... definite improvements. I think my team has improved as well:

C  - Mehmet Okur
PF - Al Harrington
SF - Carmelo Anthony
SG - Josh Howard
PG - Chauncey Billups

Bench - Ryan Hollins, Vladimir Radmanovich, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Devin Brown, Jerryd Bayless, CJ Watson.

Love this team. Man, it would be so cool to actually watch these teams of ours compete ... guess we'll never know, but it sure has been fun. Still think we should do some historical "Pick Two"s ... poll to pick a year and then draft from that year's roster. I've thoroughly enjoyed this. ;)

very strong team to start with,,,but man you did a good job...i like jr smith better than josh howard at this point, but okur would be very tough on this squad.  And i love you late rounders CDR, Bayless and Watson
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Re: Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?
« Reply #569 on: February 12, 2010, 12:49:49 AM »

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booom here it is

PG: Jarrett Jack
SG: Stephen Jackson
SF:Shawn Marion
PF: Tim Duncan
Center Samuel Dalembert

Bench: Leandro Barbosa, Chris Duhon, Darrell Arthur (back healthy and played 20 mins in last game), Larry Hughes, Roger Mason Jr., Joel Anthony



BTW one thing I would point out before judging my team. I know we have a tendency to look at players names and remember how they used to play. Ginobli, who some may say is one of my bigger losses is averaging 13 points a game on 40% shooting and two turnovers.... I did not know how awful he was playing until i started this draft personally.