Whats up with BBD?

[gar]

How much more time do you give BBD to get in shape before you go back to Shelden. At least he can finish around the basket without getting blocked. BBD has also been consistently late on his rotations.

[BadNewsBarnes]

It seems like this is going to be a lost season for BBD.  Things got off to a bad start before the season began and didn't get any better when he returned. 

Agree on him getting blocked; he got blocked 3 times the other night v. Orlando.  It seems to happen a lot.

Last year & in his rookie season he brought a lot of energy when he came into the game and made things happen.  Not this year.   

It would not surprise me to see him moved either at the deadline or this summer.  I think ownership has soured on him.

[ManUp]

This missing layups and not finish well is nothing new.

He missed plenty of baskets down the stretch in last years play-offs.

People just chose to ignore it due to his overall positive play.

[jdpapa3]

It's funny to see this thread after last night. He was our best player on the bench last night. And I have been very critical of him lately, but his rotations were great and his man to man d on Horford was better than Perkins, imo. He has also been the only guy on the team even close to offensive rebounds and his hustle plays have gone largely unnoticed. He moves a lot better laterally than Rasheed does.

However, he needs to start doing upfakes or up and unders (not enough hangtime for this move anymore) to completely win me back.

[Kiorrik]

It's funny to see this thread after last night. He was our best player on the bench last night. And I have been very critical of him lately, but his rotations were great and his man to man d on Horford was better than Perkins, imo. He has also been the only guy on the team even close to offensive rebounds and his hustle plays have gone largely unnoticed. He moves a lot better laterally than Rasheed does.

However, he needs to start doing upfakes or up and unders (not enough hangtime for this move anymore) to completely win me back.

That's weird. I could've sworn I was just thinking exactly that.

Cosigned. Couldn't have worded it better. TP too.

[Drucci]

It's funny to see this thread after last night. He was our best player on the bench last night. And I have been very critical of him lately, but his rotations were great and his man to man d on Horford was better than Perkins, imo. He has also been the only guy on the team even close to offensive rebounds and his hustle plays have gone largely unnoticed. He moves a lot better laterally than Rasheed does.

However, he needs to start doing upfakes or up and unders (not enough hangtime for this move anymore) to completely win me back.

That's weird. I could've sworn I was just thinking exactly that.

Cosigned. Couldn't have worded it better. TP too.

Agreed 100%! TP.

I wonder why Davis doesn't use the upfake anymore? It was a big part of his offensive success last season and it's strange that he doesn't use it anymore since he still has the needed speed.

[Change]

Nothing is wrong. In fact I hope Doc increases his playing time. Baby just works nonstop. His motor is always running.

More minutes=More Prodcution.

[Andy Jick]

Glen Davis (and let's just call him Glen) needs to grow up and make BASKETBALL his primary focus.  Until he wakes up and realizes that, his career will always be a "what could have been..." proposition.

I see in him a guy who is quite affable and likable, but basketball seems to be secondary to his heart.  He is using basketball as a means to gain status and popularity.

This incessant need to twitter and invite polls for a new nickname is wearing thin on me.  yeah, i'm kinda old-school, but i want him to just dedicate his life to playing basketball.

this is a guy who's going to have to work harder than others because of his body type - some people are just prone to put on weight, and he appears to have this problem.  he's having a hard time getting lift right now, so he's a bit out of shape.  you can't be a "short/rotund" power forward in this league, UNLESS you use that to your advantage and bang the hell out of people and rebound. 

Glen needs to get focused and realize his importance to this team.  It's obvious that Sheldon is a lost / forgotten cause, so it's in Davis' hands to perform.  Stop the sideshow crap and just play basketball and get in shape...  Personally, I've had enough of his antics.

[Roy Hobbs]

Are we misremembering how good BBD is?  Do people think he was better last year than he really was?

Here are his "per 36 minutes" statistics for his career:

2007: 12.0 pts, 8.0 reb, 1.1 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.8 blk, 48.4 FG%, 2.5 tov, 6.1 pf
2008: 11.7 pts, 6.6 reb, 1.5 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.4 blk, 44.2 FG%, 1.6 tov, 5.1 pf
2009: 12.0 pts, 8.7 reb, 1.0 ast, 1.0 stl, 0.5 blk, 42.6 FG%, 2.5 tov, 5.2 pf

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisgl01.html

In other words, there really hasn't been a regression.  Instead, BBD is the exact same player -- in terms of production -- that he's been since a rookie.

The one area I might expect some improvement in is his FG%; it's down from his career average, and he's shooting worse on jumpers than last season (30% now vs. 37% last year, when he started slowly.)  Otherwise, though, what we see might be what we get.

[EJPLAYA]

Glen Davis (and let's just call him Glen) needs to grow up and make BASKETBALL his primary focus.  Until he wakes up and realizes that, his career will always be a "what could have been..." proposition.

I see in him a guy who is quite affable and likable, but basketball seems to be secondary to his heart.  He is using basketball as a means to gain status and popularity.

This incessant need to twitter and invite polls for a new nickname is wearing thin on me.  yeah, i'm kinda old-school, but i want him to just dedicate his life to playing basketball.

this is a guy who's going to have to work harder than others because of his body type - some people are just prone to put on weight, and he appears to have this problem.  he's having a hard time getting lift right now, so he's a bit out of shape.  you can't be a "short/rotund" power forward in this league, UNLESS you use that to your advantage and bang the hell out of people and rebound. 

Glen needs to get focused and realize his importance to this team.  It's obvious that Sheldon is a lost / forgotten cause, so it's in Davis' hands to perform.  Stop the sideshow crap and just play basketball and get in shape...  Personally, I've had enough of his antics.

Good to see your posting Jick! I agree 100% with everything in here minus the comment about Shelden. He did nothing to deserve his eviction from the rotation. It only happened so that when BBD was back there wouldn't be a big controversy. The mistake that was made that needs to be amended, is for Shelden to be re-inserted into BBD's spot until he takes those minutes back. BBD knew Shelden was filling his role very well (better than BBD is playing now) and I am sure he started to worry about minutes. Once they shut Williams down a few games before he returned it allowed BBD to think that his spot was secure. We need BBD to watch a few games from the sideline and decide how badly he wants his spot back. If he doesn't then he needs to keep watching. Shelden proved he can handle them, because he does what we desperately need. Rebound!

[thirstyboots18]

It's funny to see this thread after last night. He was our best player on the bench last night. And I have been very critical of him lately, but his rotations were great and his man to man d on Horford was better than Perkins, imo. He has also been the only guy on the team even close to offensive rebounds and his hustle plays have gone largely unnoticed. He moves a lot better laterally than Rasheed does.

However, he needs to start doing upfakes or up and unders (not enough hangtime for this move anymore) to completely win me back.

Agree completely.  BBD has gone a long way, with his hustle, in the last two games to win me back as a supporter.  Someone said that he was a dunker in college, butI do not think he has never finished well inside for the Celtics.  That said, his jumper improved last year and he has the body to block out and set picks.  Diving on the floor for the ball is a very positive step.  (Also, he is finally starting to look "in shape" to me.  tp

[RAcker]

Are we misremembering how good BBD is?  Do people think he was better last year than he really was?

Here are his "per 36 minutes" statistics for his career:

2007: 12.0 pts, 8.0 reb, 1.1 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.8 blk, 48.4 FG%, 2.5 tov, 6.1 pf
2008: 11.7 pts, 6.6 reb, 1.5 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.4 blk, 44.2 FG%, 1.6 tov, 5.1 pf
2009: 12.0 pts, 8.7 reb, 1.0 ast, 1.0 stl, 0.5 blk, 42.6 FG%, 2.5 tov, 5.2 pf

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisgl01.html

In other words, there really hasn't been a regression.  Instead, BBD is the exact same player -- in terms of production -- that he's been since a rookie.

The one area I might expect some improvement in is his FG%; it's down from his career average, and he's shooting worse on jumpers than last season (30% now vs. 37% last year, when he started slowly.)  Otherwise, though, what we see might be what we get.

Thanks for pointing this out.  And while I agree with those critical of his immaturity off the court, I don't see why he'd be the one we're criticizing for his play.  The guy is just back off of an injury.  What is up with the defense being played by our backcourt?  That is what we should be freaking out about.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

BBD did not get any better from last year, what he did get was what he really wanted ...a fat contract, like most players, they play well in the contract year.......BBD is overweight for an NBA player, he can't get to the spot, can't elevate when needed to dunk or finish, so how can he rebound as we need like leon did, if bbd wants a new name....try playing like leon did......sheldon is the answer to bbd, sheldon is in shape, likes to rebound, and knows how to do it..! Besides, maybe if bbd sees he is losing his spot to sheldon, maybe he will get it going..! And please stop playing scal...forever.....send him to maine..he will fit in nicely up there, buy a home and retire there...ayup..!

[thirstyboots18]

Are we misremembering how good BBD is?  Do people think he was better last year than he really was?

Here are his "per 36 minutes" statistics for his career:

2007: 12.0 pts, 8.0 reb, 1.1 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.8 blk, 48.4 FG%, 2.5 tov, 6.1 pf
2008: 11.7 pts, 6.6 reb, 1.5 ast, 1.2 stl, 0.4 blk, 44.2 FG%, 1.6 tov, 5.1 pf
2009: 12.0 pts, 8.7 reb, 1.0 ast, 1.0 stl, 0.5 blk, 42.6 FG%, 2.5 tov, 5.2 pf

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisgl01.html

In other words, there really hasn't been a regression.  Instead, BBD is the exact same player -- in terms of production -- that he's been since a rookie.

The one area I might expect some improvement in is his FG%; it's down from his career average, and he's shooting worse on jumpers than last season (30% now vs. 37% last year, when he started slowly.)  Otherwise, though, what we see might be what we get.

I agree that "Glen" has probably not improved that much from last year.  I did not think he was worth a large salary increase, and think "he is what he is". I do think he is "getting the message" and is starting to fill his role.  He probably won't see a large increase in minutes because I think "Quis will get a lot of the relief minutes as he also  gets back into shape.  But this is why I also believe our bench is getting soooo much deeper...with the guys we already have.

[EJPLAYA]

Considering that BBD has a considerable worse jumper than last year, is much slower on defensive rotations, and appears to not have anywhere near the lift he had last year I would argue that he isn't "the same" rather he has regressed substantially. The only thing I think he has improved is his free throw shooting. That is up a half of a percent. Let's at least be honest about his play. Here are Sheldens stats this year though:

12.7 min, 3.9 pts, .488 Fg%, .746 FT%, 3.4 reb, .44 blocks, .5 assists, .79 turnovers

per 36 to compare to BBD's stats below that is right at 10 boards, almost 11 pts, about 1.2 assists, and about 2 turnovers per game.

BBD's per 36 this year: About 9 boards (better than I thought it would be) , 3.5 turnovers, 1.2 assists, and about 12 pts per game.

Let's not pretend that BBD is really that much better of a player out there than Williams. Considering Glen's inability to step it up since he has come back, I think  a little pine time watching Shelden would do him a world of good. I secretly hope they are putting BBD back in there to shop him for a trade knowing Shelden can fill his spot just as nicely at a lower cost.