4 Team Trade Idea ivolving Ray and players on the trading block

[Rida]

So we know for sure that, Amare, T-Mac and Igoudala are on the block.

How can The Celtics get in on on these players availability. Here goes

4 team deal

  Boston         Phoenix         Rockets                  Philly

     Get             Get                  Get                       Get

Igoudala       Carl Landry        Amare                       T-Mac
Dalambert      Ray Allen          Scalabrine                 Chase Budinger
                                                Earl Clark

   Give             Give             Give                          Give

Ray Allen      Amare               T-Mac                      Dalambert   
Walker         Earl Clark          Landry                     Igoudala
Scalabrine                           Budinger


Why for Boston?
Igoudala and Dalambert would give us an increased defensive presense and athletic swingman to cover Lebron and Kobe for the next few years. I love Ray Allen but if we don't trade his expiring deal now I don't see how we can improve this team in the near future. I think getting Igoudala and Dalambert would be an upgrade for giving up Ray, Walker and Scal.

Why for Phoenix?
Ray is just an expiring deal and they are going to lose Amare in the offseason. Why not get an athletic 6th man of the year candidate in Landry who is having a break out year, avg 16 points a game in 25 mins. If your going to lose Amare for nothing, why not soften the blow with an athletic albeit undersized 4 who could average 20 points a game with a full time gig.

Why for Rockets

Amare, Amare, Amare. Now they are probably more interested in Bosh but who knows if they can snag him in the offseason with their cap space? If they can get Amare now with Earl Clark who is a highly rated talent, they may have a better deal than trying to lure bosh in the offseason why they will have competitoin from Free Agent Havens in Miami and New York

Why for Philly
They need to blow it up. T-Mac's deal will take 20 million of their cap this offseason.Plus they may be able to sign and trade T-mac's deal in the offseason. They also get Chase Budinger, a good swingman prospect to soften the blow of losing iggy.

What do you guys think. I don't think its the ideal deal for us but I think it might be the most realistic

[Rida]

Here it is on the trade machine

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykooquk

[Evantime34]

I think that makes a lot of sense, although trades in the NBA rarely make that much sense so I don't see it happening.

[Rida]

I think that makes a lot of sense, although trades in the NBA rarely make that much sense so I don't see it happening.

Yes I think it makes sense for all the teams in the equation

[PosImpos]

Boston would have to give up some more long-term salary in order for this to work because we don't have the money to pay Iggy and Dalembert next year

[jdpapa3]

Team that balks here may actually be us. It depends on how Danny and the organization look at Iguodala because we'd pretty much be stuck with him for a while. He's never made an all star game and people don't exactly go out of their way to say he got "snubbed." I wonder if Pierce's game and Andre's game would be able to coexist.

[Rida]

Boston would have to give up some more long-term salary in order for this to work because we don't have the money to pay Iggy and Dalembert next year

With Tony, Giddens, and scal expiring we would be paying the same salary we are this yr

[PosImpos]

Team that balks here may actually be us. It depends on how Danny and the organization look at Iguodala because we'd pretty much be stuck with him for a while. He's never made an all star game and people don't exactly go out of their way to say he got "snubbed." I wonder if Pierce's game and Andre's game would be able to coexist.

You raise a good point but I think talent wise it's too good to pass up.  Andre Iguodala may not be quite an All-Star player (at least not as the main option on the Sixers) but he is far more athletic and just generally talented than Ray Allen right now.  He's also young (25) making him a solid piece to build around along with Rondo and Perk.

Rondo + Iggy + Perk are all very good defensive players, too, so that's a good core for a very good defensive team.  But I think the main problem as you said is he may not fit in as well as we'd like with our other starters because he can't shoot very well (2 of our starters are already weak to bad shooters).

[PosImpos]

Boston would have to give up some more long-term salary in order for this to work because we don't have the money to pay Iggy and Dalembert next year

With Tony, Giddens, and scal expiring we would be paying the same salary we are this yr

Don't forget that Rondo's money is going up by a lot next year.  His raised salary alone will account for TA / Scal etc.  Iggy + Dalembert then account for more than Ray Allen's salary.

[scoop]

I think the Celtics would try to trade Perkins plus one of Wallace/Davis. Otherwise they'd be spending $90 millions for just 9 players with 4 of them being primarily centers, so extremely redundant, while still having some important roster needs: a perimeter/small-ball 4, a backup wing, a backup guard. So, Perkins+Wallace/Davis for 2 or 3 bench players would be a must.

I think there's zero chance the Rockets do this deal. Landry is almost as good as Stoudemire and will play almost for free next season.

[Rida]

I think the Celtics would try to trade Perkins plus one of Wallace/Davis. Otherwise they'd be spending $90 millions for just 9 players with 4 of them being primarily centers, so extremely redundant, while still having some important roster needs: a perimeter/small-ball 4, a backup wing, a backup guard. So, Perkins+Wallace/Davis for 2 or 3 bench players would be a must.

I think there's zero chance the Rockets do this deal. Landry is almost as good as Stoudemire and will play almost for free next season.

If they love landry so much why isn't he starting and why is he only avging 25 mins a night? Hes an undersized 4. Amare is a beast an all star and a boneafide big man